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Apr 16, 2014 3:08 AM
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this is the anime of the season imo but that aside
while vastly infreois show like baby steps is rated so much better than this based on one of the best sports manga by hand down the best sports manga ka ever boggles my mide this does

maybe it is beuase the source is underated too but thats a given on this site if it not Moe or other late night slock it wil be hated on MAL sadly
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
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Apr 16, 2014 3:11 AM
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People just love to hate on Toei works ( except One Piece)
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Apr 16, 2014 3:14 AM
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Casval said:
People just love to hate on Toei works ( except One Piece)


more lie they haye any thing that even the sligtist bit main stream

im callinf ths now most underrated anime of the year
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Apr 16, 2014 3:18 AM
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FGAU1912 said:
Casval said:
People just love to hate on Toei works ( except One Piece)


more lie they haye any thing that even the sligtist bit main stream

im callinf ths now most underrated anime of the year

Excuse me, hipster MAL users love to hate on Toei works because the animation is bad, Toei is one of the most successful studios... etc.

I mean look at some of Leiji's works the best of them were animated form Toei and yet there aren't many that are rated higher than 8 here on MAL.
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Apr 16, 2014 3:32 AM
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Casval said:
FGAU1912 said:
Casval said:
People just love to hate on Toei works ( except One Piece)


more lie they haye any thing that even the sligtist bit main stream

im callinf ths now most underrated anime of the year

Excuse me, hipster MAL users love to hate on Toei works because the animation is bad, Toei is one of the most successful studios... etc.

I mean look at some of Leiji's works the best of them were animated form Toei and yet there aren't many that are rated higher than 8 here on MAL.


MAL hates mainstream anime thay hate all pairme time anime look at athe top 20 how many main stream prime time anime are there
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Apr 16, 2014 3:40 AM
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FGAU1912 said:
Casval said:
FGAU1912 said:
Casval said:
People just love to hate on Toei works ( except One Piece)


more lie they haye any thing that even the sligtist bit main stream

im callinf ths now most underrated anime of the year

Excuse me, hipster MAL users love to hate on Toei works because the animation is bad, Toei is one of the most successful studios... etc.

I mean look at some of Leiji's works the best of them were animated form Toei and yet there aren't many that are rated higher than 8 here on MAL.


MAL hates mainstream anime thay hate all pairme time anime look at athe top 20 how many main stream prime time anime are there

0 They also love to hate on one of the best selling Anime genres (Mecha) and they call themself fans.
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Apr 16, 2014 3:45 AM
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your mocking me

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VudisMay 8, 2014 11:38 PM
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Apr 16, 2014 3:49 AM
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I am not...Excuse me if I was wrong with my prediction I "0" but I really think that it's like that (the genre part)
I mean there aren't many shows that sold better than Gundam Seed,Macross F,Gundam Unicorn..

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Apr 16, 2014 3:53 AM
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Gundam makes more money then any anime any year

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VudisMay 8, 2014 11:38 PM
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Apr 16, 2014 11:09 PM

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At the moment its just that the main character has been made to be the most unlikeable piece of trash. Thats probably the biggest contributor to the low score this show currently has.
Apr 16, 2014 11:22 PM

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It's probably because of the protagonist, he really breaks the shounen mold. Mal users don't like genre deconstructions unless they're fluffed up with cute girls doing cute things. Furthermore, sports Manga are typically only popular here when they pander to the fujoshi audience (Free!, Kuroko)

They love to hate on my power rangers too...
What's so wrong with Space Time?

Tokusatsu Industry > Anime Industry

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the two industry are not as part as you think since there both ran to a large exatnt by the Toei/Bandai axis for toku toei Hanndel the TV ofr the most part and Bandai hadel March and DVD disribtuion why do you think there 13 fut high Sataue of Kamen rider out side bandai's world HQ in Minato

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VudisMay 8, 2014 11:39 PM
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Apr 17, 2014 5:07 AM

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I think many people here on MAL dont distinguish between their liking/disliking the MC and the quality or potential of the show. Also I never got how one can rate a show after the first episode.
Even when I find a first episode so horrible that it becomes an instadrop, I dont rate it. Iam just not the targetaudience in that case.
Apr 19, 2014 7:23 PM

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People don't get the humor of the MC. Plus there aren't droves of cute girls or any super powers.

I'm loving it so far. Showa Japan? Enka opening? Lazy, delinquent MC? Definitely one I'm sticking with for the time being.
Apr 20, 2014 1:28 AM

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FGAU1912 said:
Casval said:
People just love to hate on Toei works ( except One Piece)


more lie they haye any thing that even the sligtist bit main stream

im callinf ths now most underrated anime of the year


Yep, I also think that this anime is awesome! It's so funny x) I don't see why this is so underrated
Apr 20, 2014 5:44 AM

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The start was a bit slow, the style looks very "classic" and the protagonist acts like an asshole.
People tend to judge way to soon. Personally, I like this show so far. But we haven't seen much yet, so that might change.
Apr 21, 2014 6:43 AM
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People don't get the humor of the MC. Plus there aren't droves of cute girls or any super powers.

I'm loving it so far. Showa Japan? Enka opening? Lazy, delinquent MC? Definitely one I'm sticking with for the time being.

its ashita no joe for today in sound track all thats missing is a ost Magai Yagi
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Apr 26, 2014 3:14 PM

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It's not underrated. It's crap. There is absolutely nothing good about this show.
The poisoned cake though, is the MC. I've never seen a bigger asshole as an MC ever. There is nothing likable about him, and I cannot watch something if I do not like the people in it. The humor is very crass, and is beyond shallow. "He's pissing on a door! HILLARIOUS", right? Why would I watch something if I don't give a crap about the MC?

I don't give a crap what awards the manga won. One of the most acclaimed chows is Naruto... are you going to argue the quality of Naruto?
Apr 26, 2014 3:36 PM

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An arsehole main character doesn't equal a bad show. Sure I can understand not liking a show because you can't relate or don't like the main character but that does not mean the show is bad, I can see this show has quite a bit of potential personally and I don't even like the main character but one thing is true though, he sure is keeping me entertained.
In your opinion of course, to him a bad MC = a bad show. Everyone has different criteria. And he's already said the MC isn't keeping him entertained.
Apr 26, 2014 5:37 PM

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the main character is a rapist
that's why so understand
Apr 26, 2014 5:43 PM

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leetshoe said:
the main character is a rapist
that's why so understand
It's funny because if he was an attractive, psychotic rapist, this would probably be among the most popular of the season.
Apr 26, 2014 5:55 PM

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FGAU1912 said:
Casval said:
People just love to hate on Toei works ( except One Piece)


more lie they haye any thing that even the sligtist bit main stream

im callinf ths now most underrated anime of the year


Most underrated, and were only in the second quarter of the year. Not to shabby, not shabby at all
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Apr 26, 2014 8:03 PM

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leetshoe said:
the main character is a rapist
that's why so understand


I must have missed that scene.
Apr 26, 2014 8:09 PM
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Jomei said:
leetshoe said:
the main character is a rapist
that's why so understand

I must have missed that scene.

You didn't miss it, it didn't happen. It's not that he's a rapist (although really... with his personality and inability to comprehend 'no' I supposed it's possible...) he just dragged his teacher on a joyride and tried to give her a kiss at the end of it.

(I suppose I should spoiler this, but it's from the first episode, so screw it.)
Apr 27, 2014 3:55 AM

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I'm still waiting to see the real sumo action before fully judging.
Apr 27, 2014 6:34 AM

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It feels as if they're just trying to hard to show how much of an idiot he is.
You've even got the narrator stating straight out about how he's the baddest boy in town.
Also, mc is too op as of now.

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YorozuyaGinSan said:
leetshoe said:
the main character is a rapist
that's why so understand
It's funny because if he was an attractive, psychotic rapist, this would probably be among the most popular of the season.

Yeah, they already tried that... TWICE: Amnesia and Diabolique Lovers. Both were utterly despised.
Apr 27, 2014 4:52 PM

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It's not underrated. It's crap. There is absolutely nothing good about this show.
The poisoned cake though, is the MC. I've never seen a bigger asshole as an MC ever. There is nothing likable about him, and I cannot watch something if I do not like the people in it. The humor is very crass, and is beyond shallow. "He's pissing on a door! HILLARIOUS", right? Why would I watch something if I don't give a crap about the MC?

I don't give a crap what awards the manga won. One of the most acclaimed chows is Naruto... are you going to argue the quality of Naruto?


Because of the pedigree it has. The guy that made the manga is one of the geniuses behind Ashita no Joe, and all the characters in that went through buttloads of development. I'm expecting similar stuff to happen with Matsutarou. Matsutarou has some likable qualities, too; his infatuation with his teacher is like the kind you'd see a grade-schooler have. And aren't Naruto potshots getting a bit old now? Attack on Titan's the new, hip thing that's getting loads of undeserved fame. Step up your game, son!

Also, humor being crass doesn't instantly make it unfunny Mr. Highbrow.

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Yeah, they already tried that... TWICE: Amnesia and Diabolique Lovers. Both were utterly despised.


While I don't know how well the anime did in Japan, the Diabolik Lovers visual novel is plenty popular with its target audience. I don't remember anyone getting raped in that, either. The same goes for Amnesia.

And I don't get all this "MC is a rapist" stuff. He tried to kiss an unconscious woman. Calling that rape is an insult to rape victims everywhere.
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The anime is not underrated at all, it's just that the anime is pretty bad.
Normally I like such unlikeable protagonists. That's why I picked it up in the first place, but holy shit is it bad.

Story and characters are as far-fetched as it gets. They shove the whole thing with the sumo stuff up the protagonists ass, because nothing else would even work with this kind of useless protagonist. He gets one free pass after another, meaning that he doesn't need to live with any consequences, so I don't see any character development anytime soon. I feel like this anime is more slapstick oriented, although I hoped for a very strong character driven plot like in Ashita no Joe. The animation is also very poorly and the actual sumo wrestling couldn't be more boring. Every sports anime fan knows that there is no excuse for boring made sport sections. Sure, we actually saw only very little in that regard, but I honestly can't see any potential in this anime.

I wanted to give this anime another chance, because one of the creators of Ashita no Joe is behind it. Now that I know that another guy made the story for Ashita no Joe, I lost all interest and can drop this without looking back.
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It's not underrated, it's rated fine, this show is garbage; barely made it through the first episode

Everything is, 'hue he's big and still in school' 'hueehue he bullies kids' 'hue he pisses on something'

so clever

It's a show full of poop humor.

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DmonHiro said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
leetshoe said:
the main character is a rapist
that's why so understand
It's funny because if he was an attractive, psychotic rapist, this would probably be among the most popular of the season.

Yeah, they already tried that... TWICE: Amnesia and Diabolique Lovers. Both were utterly despised.
You have a point, but those are both characters from popular otome games and are only despised in the western community. When the series is told from the viewpoint of the girl who is being raped, of course people will be against it. In this case, the protagonist is the rapist.

If you take rape out of the equation and have him straight up kill people he'd be even more popular. Psychotic rapists are hit and miss in the Anime community but killing is clearly less morally bankrupt, right?
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Maybe because it's pacing isn't intriguing

Like on the first episode where he was shown as a complete ass and no sign of reform, most people dislikes this kind of MC

Only people who understand anime will know that this MC will meet it's turning point sooner or later and when he did, it will be good

Well, if I have to say.. those who rated it lowly are the 14 years old teenagers
There are lot's of them and actively lowing the rate of the anime they dn't like
and rate highly to some off-stream anime, to make themselves feel sophisticated

Personally, I find this anime quite a decent one (let's ignore the animation quality, can't help it, it's TOEI) at least until this point, I can see the anime will get better and better
Although, I can never guarantee how it will turn out in the distance future.
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YorozuyaGinSan said:
leetshoe said:
the main character is a rapist
that's why so understand
It's funny because if he was an attractive, psychotic rapist, this would probably be among the most popular of the season.


Yeah, there is some truth to that.

Personally, I have enjoyed this particular show. It isn't amazing but it certainly isn't bad either. I also like a lot of what Toei has done. People may or may not agree with me but I don't particularly care either way. This site is called MyAnimeList, the key pronoun being "my."

Besides, I'm not sure why people get so worked up over ratings. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter. People like different things and simply discussing what one likes with someone on MAL can often be a chore with absolutely no edifying results.
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Bad animation??? should there be CGI effects in the Edo period??? I see nothing wrong with the ar tstyle, it fits!! God forbid if every anime had the same look as say the charcters in Code Geass...and you never judge an anime after one episode based on looks alone...Aku no Hana taught me that!! and the MC is yusuke Urameshi only give a extra 400lbs..... Abarenbou Kishi!! could be so bad that its good!! you just have to wait it out.
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I'm actually enjoying this show so far, sure the protagonist is very unlikable at the moment, but there is something called character development, so I'm sure that he'll get better. But as many stated, it's animation, art style, and the protagonist that turn a lot of people off hence the low rating, sucks that they can't look past that, but that's how life is. But is only 4 four episodes in, and I think this is going to be a long runner considering that the manga is 36 volumes, so the scores for anyone that has dropped this and rated it low will be invalid soon, so no big deal.


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OK, a lot of people seem to be defending the anime by saying it will be better later. But that's a BS defense. Why can't it be better now? I don't want to wait X amount of episodes before a series gets good, especially when other shows (Black Bullet, No Game No Life, Ping Pong) were great from episode 1.
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OK, a lot of people seem to be defending the anime by saying it will be better later. But that's a BS defense. Why can't it be better now? I don't want to wait X amount of episodes before a series gets good, especially when other shows (Black Bullet, No Game No Life, Ping Pong) were great from episode 1.
Those are seasonal anime with limited episodes
Of course they want to wrap it up as neatly as possible to boost the DVD sales

While this one is a new adaptation from a classic manga
I think they are going to follow the manga from a to z
So, it will take some time to build the story

The story ain't that bad, for me this anime is solid 7 and might improve as the time goes by
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many people stop watching or didnt even finished episode 1....
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When did he RAPE anyone? Is this a new tumblr definition of rape or something?

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Yeah, I saw that. When did he RAPE anyone? Is this a new tumblr definition of rape or something?

I think they mean, they think the MC wants to get into sensei's pants.
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DmonHiro said:
OK, a lot of people seem to be defending the anime by saying it will be better later. But that's a BS defense. Why can't it be better now? I don't want to wait X amount of episodes before a series gets good, especially when other shows (Black Bullet, No Game No Life, Ping Pong) were great from episode 1.
please, Abarenbou is more great than ping pong. i already drop ping pong since eps 1 cause the story was so bad.
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Ping Pong is better right now, but this is improving. I was thinking about maybe dropping it but then episode 5 happened, and I found myself enjoying pretty much the whole ep. I actually am looking forward to the next one. Glad I didn't drop it yet!
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please, Abarenbou is more great than ping pong. i already drop ping pong since eps 1 cause the story was so bad.

lol no
you can't judge something by the first episode alone.
ping pong is hella realistic and it got better in the third episode.
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please, Abarenbou is more great than ping pong. i already drop ping pong since eps 1 cause the story was so bad.

That's funny considering if you judged Abarenbou by the first episode it's boring trash with no story.
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Chaos-kun said:
please, Abarenbou is more great than ping pong. i already drop ping pong since eps 1 cause the story was so bad.

lol no
you can't judge something by the first episode alone.
ping pong is hella realistic and it got better in the third episode.

You're kidding right?
It was great from the first episode
The moment the OP start playing, I just knew that anime is going to be great..
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mayukachan said:
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please, Abarenbou is more great than ping pong. i already drop ping pong since eps 1 cause the story was so bad.

lol no
you can't judge something by the first episode alone.
ping pong is hella realistic and it got better in the third episode.

You're kidding right?
It was great from the first episode
The moment the OP start playing, I just knew that anime is going to be great..

The first episode was good, got me interested but starting from the second episode was where I knew it would be at least an 8. The third episode I thought if it keeps this up it's 9, which so far it has.
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Toaki90 said:
mayukachan said:
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please, Abarenbou is more great than ping pong. i already drop ping pong since eps 1 cause the story was so bad.

lol no
you can't judge something by the first episode alone.
ping pong is hella realistic and it got better in the third episode.

You're kidding right?
It was great from the first episode
The moment the OP start playing, I just knew that anime is going to be great..

I'm not saying Pingpong wasn't great from the start. I was saying it got even better later on. After fails shows that started out with a great start like SAO, I stopped hyping things up from the first episode and looked more at the potential of the show.
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This is definitely underrated right now. A 5.69 is really, really low by "MAL standards." I don't think it is great so far, but it is interesting and definitely deserving of a higher rating that, imo.
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This is definitely underrated right now. A 5.69 is really, really low by "MAL standards." I don't think it is great so far, but it is interesting and definitely deserving of a higher rating that, imo.

I can assure you it'll rise to a 6 something when it's completed. lol Meganebu! managed to go from a 5 to a 6 after it finished because of the 1/5 rule. Even Diabolik Lovers is almost a 6.
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