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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This was a bit of a slow episode. I kinda like how the team comes to together though to share some moments like simply staring into the lights of the night. I have confidence about Haruka though and his recovery. Makoto's talk with Haruka should've encouraged him more. Damn it Haruka, don't be stubborn. |
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| Everyone's carying about the main guy not deciding about the future, even that guy who has shoulder injury. They confessed about their feelings and he doesn't listen. So that friend is going to Tokyo. Red hair guy is bringing him to Australia?? |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| Makoto and Haru were shouting at each other...i feel like space exploded,lol "because we all love you" oh Rin is kidnapping Haru to Australia,yay!:'D |
| Wow, up until now, I felt bad for Haru and I understood where he's coming from but this episode just pissed me off. He really needs to grow up a little instead of bitching at everyone for trying to HELP!!! him find his damn dream when he's apparently unable to do it by himself. Gahwd. |
| Rei was about to say his words of wisdom as always, just to be interrupted by silly Nagisa. And I thought he already enrolled in Rei Ryuugazaki's School Of Common Sense in previous episode. Thank God Rei made him repeat those classes off-screen and later Nagisa knew better. I thought that Makoto is going to punch Haru. I thought that Rin would do it too. Or at least tell Haru he came to make a man out of him. I'll be frank, I'm dissapointed. |
| Rin saves the day! |
| I kind of understand Haru, he himself doesn't know what to do, what kind of dream to have, he just wants to stay the way it is now. I think he grew too comfortable with it. I'm the same ^^ i keep on avoiding things that need to be done and decisions that need to be made as well(as long as i can) well of course he's going to have some kind of a reaction when everyone keep on telling him to find a future and what he's supposed to do. I guess it was all bottled up and it just somewhat exploded. anyway i think its just normal and he needs a change of pace and thanks god Rin came to take him to Australia!! ( but still i think Haru is behaving waay too spoiled to think everything is gonna go his way, not even at least listening to others, was a bit disappointed in him during this one ) * me too i thought they're gonna hit each other, i dont want to see them having such sad eyes ): |
eisanSep 10, 2014 10:29 AM
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PokeL said: Wow, up until now, I felt bad for Haru and I understood where he's coming from but this episode just pissed me off. He really needs to grow up a little instead of bitching at everyone for trying to HELP!!! him find his damn dream when he's apparently unable to do it by himself. Gahwd. Uh, yeah, this. I was feeling sympathetic for a lot of this, because it does suck to be trapped into a career path just because you're good at something, and to be worried about if you'll still love it, and all of that... but his bullshit is actively screwing the team at this point. Someone needs to knock some sense into him and it looks like that's gonna have to be Rin. |
| That scene between Makoto and Haru was really powerful...I shed tears Australiaaaa (can he just do that? what about tickets? oh well live spontaneously I guess) I am excited for overseas swimbro adventures |
| Well Makoto has decided on what he is going to do in the future. Sucks that Haru is undecided on what his plans are in the future. Everybody tries to help him, but he isn't willing to receive that help. |
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| up to this episode, i understood where haru is coming from because many of us have experienced similar uncertainties. however in this episode, i thought someone should just punch him in the face. i understand that he's not asking for advice and that everyone's kind of shoving the future down his throat but he needs to get his act together and stop running away. the problem won't fix itself. like makoto said, haru's friends aren't trying to pressure him. they're trying to help haru before it's too late to do anything. haru says that he can do it by himself but it's obviously not the case and that's why his friends intervened. i gained lots of respect for makoto. he spoke words of wisdom this episode. i'm really disappointed in haru's behavior. when makoto decided to be the voice of reason, haru just had to insult his best friend. it's up to rin to fix this mess now |
| That.... hurt. The MakoHaru scene at the end was so intense! Haru's hurt face was hard to swallow.... But the pacing was nice. Glad it wasn't a filler episode. |
| I AM SO HAPPY!!!! i usually wanna discuss but nope!!! I'M SO HAPPYYYYYYYYYYY~~~~! |
| The 2002 Tokyo Mew Mew adaptation is not as great as you remember it being. |
| Haru is still thinking like a loser so he can die I don't give a shit anymore. Imma telling Akashi Seijuro that Haruka doesn't want to win, dat bitch. Wut?! Why the hell they have to always talk hidden? It's like they're going to confess their love every time -_- Why doesn't Sousuke just beat the shit off Haru?! They swim worse when swimming relay? Best news evar! But they've to win or I will be super pissed. Haru's becoming a professional strap maker. |
| this episode was really intense. the fight... I never actually believed they would really fight but weplp they did and tears were shed. Haruka really needs to decide what to do now. Makoto was amazing this episode. I just love this guy. nice to see Nagisa and Rei speaking their minds. Haruka's response wasn't really nice though. I almost threw away my laptop when I heard 'Hey future fish'. hey future fish my ass. man I can't wait for next episode. a trip to Australia huh? well I hope Rin talks some sense into him that end card was cute^^ |
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| Everyone's congratulating the swim club! (^_^) Lol, Pyunsuke. So everyone's telling their feelings to Haru. Sousuke told Haru to take a step forward. Nagisa and Rei told Haru to stay free. Makoto told Haru to find his dream because everyone cares about him. Slow start but the ending just hit you hard! Awesome, Rin's taking Haru to Australia! Hopefully, he'll find a dream there. |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
| i didn't realize that samezuka was also going to nationals for the medley relay. i guess sousuke has 1 more chance to swim with rin unless he gets substituted. i feel really bad for sousuke. a shoulder injury is costing him his whole future |
| Haru is just snapping at everyone, I understand he doesn't know what to do (oh the last year highschool), but that's just going too far. Rin, oh my God. Are they seriously going to Australia? Wow, talk about a spontaneous trip. |
TheAnimeFanGirlx said: THE MAKOHARU TRAUMA IS MAKING ME CRY. MY KOKORO IS A BROKORO. |
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| I'm glad I'm not in the minority for being frustrated as all heck with Haru this episode. I really relate to his aimlessness as I'm sure many of us do but the way he kept avoiding his problems and then hurting his friends like that just for trying to encourage and help him... It was really hard to sympathize with him. Okay honestly I just got really annoyed by the end hahahaha. Haru, get your shit together! |
| You know, I just thought about it. What if Rin's figured out that the reason that Haru doesn't really swim competitively is really because there's no challenge for him? He's pretty much the best freestyle swimmer in Japan. He only becomes more passionate when he's going against Rin, and he and Rin are basically equals, while nobody else even comes close. Perhaps Rin is taking Haru to Australia to find a challenge just like he did? Rin fell apart because of the challenge of much more powerful swimmers during his training there as a youth, because he was younger, less mature, and didn't have any support of friends or family around him. I think if he had had that, he would have become a much better swimmer and much more motivated. He probably wants Haru to feel that too. To be in an area where he's NOT the best swimmer, and to have a goal to go for, to actually have to try his very best. I think that might give Haru a different look at what it means to do professional swimming. |
| Haru's being such a little bitch. |
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| Whaa ~ Everyone's feelings. When Rei and Nagisa were talking about the phone strap that Haru made during last season - Immediately brought me back to when I was watching Free! last year and realizing how this season may be it's final and that there are only 2 episodes left ;( Makoto and Haru's talk near the end, just wow. And Australia!? Can't wait for next week's episode. |
 "Later on, you will become a lively person causing headaches as the shrine-god." |
| Everyone is fighting and crying in this episode wow, way to make this anime 1000% gayer KyoAni (^_^)b Haru was really annoying, snapping at everyone and all. But he can't be blamed for feeling so much pressure. Not having a dream actually does feel terrible in my opinion especially when everyone around him is talking about it. I hope his trip in Australia with Rin lightens him up a bit! X3 I can feel the HaruRin moments already ehehehehe. Also LOL Momotarou and his Pyunsuke. Kawaii dorkie. |
What is grammer _(」∠ ､ﾝ､)_ |
| Man Haru overreacting on em' all. Dat preview, Rin is outta here. |
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| The swimming club being famous in the school for going to the nationals! Makoto and Haru's confrontation regarding Haru's dream and future T.T It was an emotional one and Makoto saying that he is going to Tokyo :( I thought for a second that Rin was going to Australia forever or something but turns out it is for Haru! Can't wait for that swim-off! |
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| This episode was actually pretty refreshing to me. Seeing Haru and Makoto yell at each other, while highly upsetting, was something we've never seen before. It's also something that I think really needed to happen, and I'm glad it did. Most of the problems in this season were ones that could be solved just by talking to each other about what they really feel, and there was plenty of that in this episode. Haru still clearly has some things he isn't saying, but I'm confident that Rin will help with that next week. |
| this season has really shaped up well. im glad i didnt drop it. the drama is actually quite nice; albeit annoying at times, but understandable. haru has what i would call... 'first world problems' lol. most people fall into the category of not having a dream (i.e. not knowing what to do), and also having no skills for a successful career. however haru, this guy has the opportunity sitting at his door. i wish i had some miraculous talent that someone would pay me to do. shit, he could be michael phelps, swim for a few years and then retire. then he can bitch and moan in his mansion. |
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| Although it's sad that Makoto is going to Tokyo, it's a really big accomplishment! Especially when he thought Pangea was still real. jk... I really like Momo's attitude about the future. :) This episode was really slow, until the last 3 minutes. Looking forward to the next episode. |
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Irenesharda said: Perhaps Rin is taking Haru to Australia to find a challenge just like he did? Rin fell apart because of the challenge of much more powerful swimmers during his training there as a youth, because he was younger, less mature, and didn't have any support of friends or family around him. I think if he had had that, he would have become a much better swimmer and much more motivated. He probably wants Haru to feel that too. To be in an area where he's NOT the best swimmer, and to have a goal to go for, to actually have to try his very best. I think that might give Haru a different look at what it means to do professional swimming. This! I really want this to be the reason why he's taking Haru to Australia because i think it's exactly what he needs! Actually, right now,i feel just like Makoto, because i thought Haru really wantedt to stay just the way he is right now, but the more they show us how frustrated and worried he is the more it becomes obvious that he does want to find his own dream, cause he just told Makoto that he does, and also, he's been looking at that paper with his future plans during all this season, but it really isn't as easy as say "i'll find my dream right now" so of course he's having issues at figuring it out, and because this is such an important thing to decide he's frustrated so i do understand how he feels too, since i was like this myself. And so, it made me happy to read that comment on why Rin would take him to Australia cause it really would be like discovering a whole to new world and hopefully he would be able to finally decide what to do. |
| Haru is such a brat. Not having a dream can be seriously straining but taking it out on people that's shown to care unconditionally really shines a light on his immaturity imho. Not saying that it's bad that he's that way, just that it's getting on my nerves that the writing during the whole series up to this point try to paint him as something other than the brat he is. |
Kurogashi said: haru has what i would call... 'first world problems' lol. most people fall into the category of not having a dream (i.e. not knowing what to do), and also having no skills for a successful career. however haru, this guy has the opportunity sitting at his door. i wish i had some miraculous talent that someone would pay me to do. shit, he could be michael phelps, swim for a few years and then retire. then he can bitch and moan in his mansion. LOL yes, definitely first world problems. I liked Haru for the most part, but yelling at his friends is just taking it too far. If he doesn't want to go pro because that's what everyone else thinks he should do, or if doesn't care about swimming so that people in the world may be inspired by him like Rei and Nagisa mentioned, then he can just tell them calmly, "well, I don't swim for others, I like swimming just because," or even, "I will keep swimming but I don't want to go pro. Although I don't have a dream yet, I will get there one day." Like there are many ways to respond but he seems to be really fed up with his kind friends who have barely even pushed the pro thing on him until this episode. Well at least Rin is here to save the day. Sometimes people need to see outside of their own world to find a path to what they truly want to do. |
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| damn that was slow and more gay drama |
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| OH MY GODDDDDDDD THEY DID NOT JUST END IT THERE!!!!!!!!!!! THEY DID NOTTTTTT JUST END IT THEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOPE NOPE NOPEEEEE EDIT AFTER I SAW THE ED... WOAHH AUSTRALIA!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| I think Haru's behavior was really reasonable. He's trying to think things through on his own and everyone has their own ideas for what he should be doing (and only Makoto really made it about Haru and not his swimming for someone else, hopefully Rin makes it about Haru too). I started having an anxiety attack just listening to these guys - it's really tough when you know big changes are coming (as most everyone knows) and for some people the pressure just keeps getting piled on and on the more that people try to help. I really sympathize with Haru, it takes a lot out of me when I have other people trying to help me with decisions and direct me. Then your mind just keeps getting wound up with all these things you want to say and all these thoughts and ideas and plans and you just end up releasing it all through lashing out and yelling. He needs space and time and a comfortable place to think things through and I think Rin might give him that with their trip to Australia; a breathe of fresh air. |
 Oh god. I'm dead. I really can't take this anymore. BOTH of my OTPS were screwed over today, this is NOT cool. The amount I cried last episode was nothing compared to this. Kyoani, stop breaking the fangirls' hearts!! MAKOTO AND HARUKA ARE NOT MEANT TO BE SEPARATED!!! And don't start playing freaking future fish when I'm bawling my eyes out |
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kedisiva said: Maybe I didnt need to watch this anime this year. Its my last year in high school and I dont have any dreams about my future. I feel like Haru. And I will lost my friends... They will go for different cities. I always watched free to be happy but now Im crying and just wishing for they wont break up. I want them to be together... Now Im more and more depressed... Thanks Haru Thanks Makoto Ah, I'm in the same boat as you!!! >.< *hugs you* I agree, it's really difficult to watch these episodes because Haru's going through the exact same thing... ;-; But Free!'s ending is most likely going to be a very optimistic one, so hopefully that will boost your spirits about your own graduation a bit. :) (And we can always cross our fingers for a really mushy apology from Haru to Makoto in episode 13. *cries*) |
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*gross uncontrollable sobbing* I signed up for happiness and cheerful swimmers, I didn't ask for any of this! All the humour in the beginning of this entire episode couldn't ameliorate the pain that was the ending. Kokoro is 100% brokoro now. And I'll go back to speak about the ending later. It's definitely not right to be blaming anyone for Haru's problems, not even Haru. All of the people that know him are clearly extremely concerned, but none of them know quite how to approach the situation because Haruka pushes away any hands extended towards him. He's scared of responsibility and the future; having to make decisions by himself because other people won't be there for him. I believe Haru would much rather float around in a pool all day, but that is no way to have a successful life, and that's why the entire concept of the future contradicts who he is. He is a free spirit who shrugs off the burden of his problems in favour for swimming, and that's why it's more crucial than ever for Haru to figure out what he wants to do. How to suggest that to him is another matter. Some are too afraid to speak to him directly. The ones who do are often met with resistance. The only time I've ever seen Haru angry is when someone is strongly suggesting that he takes action in his life. Rei said that Haru needs to figure things out himself, but his method, though initially appearing more reasonable, may not be strong enough to stimulate Haru into doing something. Most notably, when Sousuke said that Haru needed to take a step forward, he instead turned around because Makoto was there. I think this is highly symbolic in some way- is Makoto holding Haru back because he's afraid to leave his best friend, is Haru reluctant to leave Makoto, who represents stability, warmth, and familiarity; is Haru too concerned about Makoto's future to focus on his own? Their relationship has become a lot more complicated in this season and quite honestly, I'm terrified to see what will happen. It looks like Rin may have been scouted by somebody from Australia. That would be interesting- wasn't that his dad's profession? I could be wrong, though. That will definitely give him the chance to pursue his childhood dream, though without Sousuke and possibly without Haru, it will be a rather lonely journey. Here we see the difference between Haruka and Rin. Haru, though seeming independent, is highly reliant on others; Rin can pursue his dream without having to worry about other people being left behind, even though he is more social than Haru is. Rin is not afraid to chase the unknown, but even though Haru didn't say anything about it, I think he is afraid of chance. Water is reasonable; it usually remains the same, with some level of unpredictability, but nothing compared to what he would face on the world stage. Though Sousuke is too concerned with Rin to understand how Haru feels, I believe he'll be a good supporting force for Rin in the years to come. But what am I saying? I can't insist for sure whether or not Rin will decide to go to Australia. Perhaps swimming on a team has taught him the value of sticking with your friends. And...here we go. The argument between Haru and Makoto was terrifying. I never thought I would use that word to describe this anime, but I was actually scared about what would happen. The last thing I wanted to see them do was get in a fight. Ships aside, I believe their friendship is perhaps one of the most valuable parts of this anime and now, it appears as though it's been damaged, if not completely broken. However, I can understand Haru's anger. Other people bothering him was enough, but now his best friend, who is supposed to know him best and always support him no matter what, who never really forces Haru to do anything, is one of them. It's uncharacteristic of Makoto to try and forcefully convince Haru to do something, and unfortunately for the poor Mako-chan, he said all the wrong words and now Haru runs again from the truth. When Makoto said that they all loved Haru, I had just a second to smile before everything went wrong. As I said before, I've never seen Haru so angry, expressing an emotion other than complacency or indifference. And the same applies for Makoto, who I've never seen like that. Are they friends, still? A part of me wants to believe that their friendship can transcend this conflict; another part thinks that since Makoto now is part of that group who urges him forward, Haru will avoid him for as long as possible. With Makoto going to Tokyo, there might not be long to wait. |
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tingy said: LOL yes, definitely first world problems. I liked Haru for the most part, but yelling at his friends is just taking it too far. If he doesn't want to go pro because that's what everyone else thinks he should do, or if doesn't care about swimming so that people in the world may be inspired by him like Rei and Nagisa mentioned, then he can just tell them calmly, "well, I don't swim for others, I like swimming just because," or even, "I will keep swimming but I don't want to go pro. Although I don't have a dream yet, I will get there one day." Like there are many ways to respond but he seems to be really fed up with his kind friends who have barely even pushed the pro thing on him until this episode. Well at least Rin is here to save the day. Sometimes people need to see outside of their own world to find a path to what they truly want to do. exactly. although haru's friends haven't really pushed haru to talk about his future until this episode, his nightmare from episode 9 and the fact that his future is basically all he's been thinking about pushed him over the edge and forced him to react harshly towards his friends. however, none of his friends know about this since haru doesn't tell them anything. that's why i was disappointed that he reacted so violently towards makoto and insulted makoto's character. if he wants his friends to butt out, he really should tell them calmly like you mentioned. however, i don't think haru is at that point where he can think about his future rationally. i hope that in australia, haru is about to gain some peace and have some sort of epiphany about what he wants to do. haru's situation makes me feel really bad for sousuke. haru has all these opportunities but he doesn't have the drive to go after them. on the other hand, sousuke has the drive but he doesn't have the opportunities like haru. i bet sousuke would kill to be in haru's position now |
| Being a university student about to graduate in a year, I really feel for Haru. He's indecisive not "even though" he's talented, but BECAUSE he's talented. He's afraid he'll pursue what once was his hobby and turn it into something ugly, the one thing that breathed life in his monotonous high school career. And everyone has, is, or will leave him. His parents aren't there to guide him; Nagisa and Rei are continuing their high school studies; Rin has already set his sights on the Olympics; and Makoto, the one person who's beside him all this time, is leaving for Tokyo. Where does that leave Haru, who's learned to cherish his friends so much? He'll either swim alone in freestyle, as he did at the beginning of season one (pretty much rendering all character development moot), or pursue a professional career and learn to hate what he loves most. I'm actually glad the creators decided to have Rin take Haru to Australia by force. The reason why Haru's suffering so much is because he's not the type to analyze. He just DOES, and it shows in his swimming. It's interesting that Makoto's not the one to help Haru this way, but Rin. Rin wants Haru to feel travelling and soul searching, and not think on it as Haru has the whole season. Rin's letting Haru experience, and not just contemplate, which is perhaps the best way of reaching Haru. Perhaps it was Makoto's idea? He did receive a text from him, though we don't know what it's about yet. Makoto probably didn't tell him to go to Australia outright (Rin got the ticket before Makoto's text), but asked Rin to reach Haru somehow, knowing that Rin can influence Haru in ways Makoto can't. I don't normally write this much about any anime, but for a fanservicey series, this season has a lot for the viewer to think about, especially for those who are at the age of soul-searching and career-related decisions. |
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