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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The fight was pretty fast, I suppose they were saving the better stuff later  Cute stuff imo with the way the final episode was directed. Overall fun a show. Definitely liked the second half better than the first half. |
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| I really hope they don't plan to end this in the middle of the arc... |
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Kaengel said: I really hope they don't plan to end this in the middle of the arc... I think the second part will air in October. |
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| Lol Caro was shaking more than Lutecia, and Miura accidentally destroying that training post hahaha It said there was gonna be an interval starting now, so second season will air later down the track, guessing in a couple of months or so. Really wanting to see Miura, Harry, and Sieg's matches animated |
skydragonx8 said: Just read the manga? It's existed for years and it's better.really hoping for more, i love the nanoha series ever since 2004 when it first aired and honestly they cant just end it like that i want to see vivio and miura's battle and einhart and sieglinde's battle. |
| it's ended (or not) first half is boring, but second half got me hyped season 2 when? need moar mahou shoujo lyrical |
fatalystic said: Yeah, this really does feel like a split cour. No sane person would end an anime right smack in the middle of a tournament arc without any plans to continue. Huge sequel hook right there. That said, the hypothetical second cour would probably be able to wrap up the tournament arc in about 3 to 4 episodes, which (if it's also 12 episodes) would leave about 8 to 9 episodes for the Infinity Library arc...? I can't see them going beyond that...maybe. Correct me if i'm wrong but this show seems to be receiving poor response from the audience, the previous seasons had better plot, plus godlike OP+ED from mizuki nana and yukari tamura all fueled alot into the sales. Vivid, on the other hand, received bad response from the majority, not even a die hard nanoha fans could bring themselves to love this season as much as they want to ( me included), not even the great OP and ED could save this season's sales now. And tbh i dont like the OP. With all the poor response and sales, chances of second season is..probably close to nil |
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Kiev said: With all the poor response and sales, chances of second season is..probably close to nil I agree with what you said above, but Japan is the only country that matters...And I wouldn't be surprised if it sells at least decently over there. A lot of people regarded StrikerS to be the worst of the three seasons, but it still sold the best of the three seasons in Japan. Double of what A's sold. Japanese tend to buy stuff they're a fan of even if it's not up to par in quality. That's why A-1 can get away with doing a half-assed job and still profit from it. Of course, I could be wrong. But this is what I feel will happen. |
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| Good ending I guess, seems to be a split core... 7/10 needed more starlight breaker. I did enjoy episode 11 quite a lot. I hope it does continue cause it seems to be developing a plot later on.... though I did peep at the manga and saw nips.... so... yea... this is not the nanoha I know and love. |
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| so this is going to be a split cour or what? if not, this is a pretty weird place to end the series. |
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| Better than Strikers but the Tournament Arc is so incomplete. |
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Loli-Sazanami said: Better than Strikers but the Tournament Arc is so incomplete. StrikerS is far better than this, it has a coherent plot with actual threat and a clear objective, vivid has no plot or tension, or Nanoha, or Vivio (why are the TWO title characters the least important!?) |
Rahkshilord said: Loli-Sazanami said: Better than Strikers but the Tournament Arc is so incomplete. StrikerS is far better than this, it has a coherent plot with actual threat and a clear objective, vivid has no plot or tension, or Nanoha, or Vivio (why are the TWO title characters the least important!?) I don't like Vivid either, but Vivio has a lot of screentime. Just not much this episode because she can't fight in every episode in a tournament arc. |
| First scene made me want to start shipping Einhart x Corona. Good episode. But season 2 really needs to happen. That has the best fights! |
| I'm glad Corona forgave Einhart so quickly and will root for her. I can totally sympathize with Einhart's feelings about winning/dream crushing, though. A second season must happen! Not cool, witch girl. Temporary simulated physical pain is okay but psychological trauma is playing too dirty! Hopefully Lulu's bug ninja will dispose of her. Overall, Vivid was definitely the worst of the existing nanoha anime seasons, but it was in no way bad. OP was excellent, animation was good, first half was meh, second half was better. I like the tournament stuff, but Strikers is still better (even with the painfully boring training episodes). |
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| at last they introduced fabia. is there any official info regarding 2nd season? |
| Well, this was kinda weird and random to just end it like that.... So unless they do a second season it's gonna feel like ALL of this was for nothing....which would be a huge shame. I thought it was OK....but I'd really prefer an Nanoha and Fate centered anime....especially when they're in high school. This was just too passive and there isn't any real tension, plot, or anything.... Some of the characters were pretty good/cute, but that's really about it. 6/10 |
| weird place to end though the ending eye catch said they were only having a interval so im guessing this is not the end. |
Rahkshilord said: Loli-Sazanami said: Better than Strikers but the Tournament Arc is so incomplete. StrikerS is far better than this, it has a coherent plot with actual threat and a clear objective, vivid has no plot or tension, or Nanoha, or Vivio (why are the TWO title characters the least important!?) StrikerS is better in different genre, but your explanation are off. This is Jap-Animation, please be understand that naming sense has nothing to do with the plot itself. If you didnt do your research or at least look at what is given, you probably didnt see it. StrikerS has drama genre, while Vivid dont. Read the synopsis. Also please notice the fact that the animation producer are different, including that character design changed. This should tell you it a different group producing the anime. |
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novalysis said: I do have my gripes with Nanoha Vivid the anime adaptation. It spends too much time in the build up, taking seven episodes to announce the tournament, then squashes the first rounds of the tournament and sharply cuts down the lengths of some rather awesome fights. It does a shoddy job of helping it's viewers follow the tournament properly. Animation is disappointingly mediocre (then again, Nanoha somehow ends up with low production values). Voice acting work leaves much to be desired - Vivio's VA in particular grits on my nerve - it sounds like a forty something year old trying to sound 10 with a nasally chipmunk voice. I'm sure why you know the VA age, it because you look it up. If it not, then you have to born in Japan to even know the different. If I watch this anime with English dub, I would be able to tell without looking up. It's another reason why I don't watch English dub. Other than that, as a foreigner you shouldn't be able to determine their VA age. Unless you wanting an actor that is 10 years old to voice this character. But if there an anime that is set in an high school setting, people can't just use a VAs at same age as the character. If they do use someone under 18 years-old to voice ecchi anime character, that would seem illegal even in Japan. I found your comment to be awfully rude toward the VA staff since they spend their life career working in the anime industry using their voice. Anyway, you shouldn't even rate their voices if you watching anime. It's called ANIME for a reason. I found Vivio voice pretty cute in StrikerS. It's not chipmunk, it's Japanese cultural term called "Moe", representing something that's cute/kawaii. |
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LastChapter said: If ViVid does get a second season, A-1, please give the Nanoha franchise back to Seven Arcs. And Seven Arcs, I'm expecting a Force adaption after the third movie (and perhaps after the StrikerS remake). Why a Force adaption? There is barely much to cover and it is on hiatus. While it has a plot and the old characters are acting like before Vivid, the outcome would be an incomplete mess. At this point I prefer the third movie. |
| The way they ended it just screams "Second season". Hopefully we get one. Overall 8/10 |
| This was disappointing. I really enjoy the Vivid manga but they decided to cut it off at the worst spot possible. It makes no sense at all considering how the next matches are going to end. Not to mention that the season feel very inconclusive. I'll give it 7/10. I expected better given the quality of the manga. |
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novalysis said: To basically summarize, it seems you have a problem with me expressing my opinions on the Voice acting itself and not just the way I phrased it. I would not however apologize for holding the opinion that the voice acting of Vivio, was not a convincing rendition of a child, especially compared to the rest of the cast, in the same way I would not be apologetic if I felt that the Voice acting of another show was exceptional. From the viewpoint of an audience member, I find the number of years or backstage effort any actor puts in irrelevant to the end product itself - and just as Live action actors could potentially give disappointing performances in a given movie or shiw, so too could anime Voice Actors. Were there more polite ways I could phrase it? Perhaps. And if that is the issue, then I do apologize by that. But I still stand by my opinion - the VA performance of Vivio Takamachi was one of the flaws of Nanoha Vivid (in my admittedly subjective opinion) - even though the bulk of my substantive was defending the show itself. First of all, I'm sorry if you misunderstood what I'm trying to convey. I agree with you on most of the point about the show. However, when you started talking about the voice, you said a VA sounded nasally chipmunk. How could you even tell if she's a forty? The answer is quite simple, you looked her up. With that in mind, you use it as an evidence to your argument. And after reading your posts, I realized that your English is really proficient. Since we all familiar with English, it is easy for us to catch an English nasal voice. However, when it come to Japanese, this is hard unless you have background experiences with the language itself. Thus, I like to know how you are able to tell if a Japanese nasal voice. If you really want to hear the obvious VA with nasal voice, there's one. She go by the name of Rie Kugimiya. Overall, I think you are missing the whole view here. Since you only pointed out 1 of the rest, I can pretty much assume you are not well familiar with Japanese. I studied Japanese for 3 years, and had a Japanese instructor. I do know how a real conversation sound. It is not the same like anime and drama. They are different in speed and tone of expression. But let leave that aside, I'm not here to explain and compare the Japanese voice between anime and real life. If you truly that a show has it flaw because how VA sounded, then that you. It's an opinion that you hold, not a flaw. Why even pick out main character when there others? It shows that you weren't able to identify the voice of the other characters. Because it is your opinion, I'm here to let you know that there are people including myself, who didn't perceive the voice the same way as you. She sound normal for a character who is 10 years old. How about you start watching more anime and see for your self. And when you reach to that point to see a male character, see the difference in their flashback childhood and current. You will see they have female VA dubbing for the young male character. That's definitely is weird if foreigner look and notice. I hate talking talking on forum mostly because it come from American's perspective. It's an anime, it's an entertainment. You watch, you done, you move on. Why even bother judging when it made only to appeal Japaneses people not foreigner? It's not for us foreigner to bash in and tell what is wrong with their product as an outsider. So even if many people asking for a second season, they themselves can't make it happen. They watch free anime first been not living in Japan, second not buy their product franchise. In Japan, people don't get free access to anime through the web. The performance of the manga ranking and sales affect the anime production greatly. Therefore, for us outsider, we can brag how much ever we want but it will not affect and increasing the chance of a second season. I'm going to end it here. Sorry if I go off topic. Also, I like your writing style with lots of good terminologies. |
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| wow, most bizarre ending I've seen in a while, it just ends hahahaha. I had to double check that was the final episode, that's terrible pacing for you, and they don't even try to make it work, it almost just ends right in the middle of a conversation... It's like they were making the episode and suddenly realized they ran out of time, so just stopped it hahahahaha 4/10 Was just a whole load of disappointment rolled up into 12 episodes, and wow that ending (if you can even call it that) I just can't... Hahahahaha |
| Time to play the waiting game again lol. At least we can look forward to more of Nanoha this time. Reading the comments, looks like a lot of people have now idea what Vivid was about or going to be about. xD No wonder why the scores are low. That's MAL's users for you. If I had to nitpick at anything, it would be the iteration of Fate and the quality of the animation but loved everything else as someone who read the manga way before this was aired. |
| What a weird place to ends a series Really, what, if at least Vivio had lost or something like that to give the series some kind of clousure would have been fine. |
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| [/quote] EtherSword said: If I had to nitpick at anything, it would be the iteration of Fate and the quality of the animation but loved everything else as someone who read the manga way before this was aired. Indeed |
| Oh and it's over? Well that was sudden.. Meh not that I am bothered, this just gives me more time to pick up a new series. This series has been pretty meh, nothing like the feel of the older series. I hate when series add a ton of characters. I prefer when series focus on a small group of characters that go on an adventure, fight the bad guys whatever, like the original series. Oh and like good old magic, not just martial arts, I miss that. I also feel this series is missing an actual plot. Meh I just prefer the older series. |
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| ...that's it? I know that there's manga that's ahead of the anime, and I'll probably try to read it. Still, this ending... doesn't feel like an ending. They introduce a new character, hint at upcoming match ups and that's it? 8/10 though since it's Nanoha and it delivered pretty good battles. |
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| I was never too big a fan of the ViVid manga, but the anime probably ended at the worst place possible. Miura and Vivio's fight is actually fairly good. The tournament arc can easily wrap up in maybe 3 or 4 more episodes, and although I say wrap up, it's pretty much just set aside for later. The highlight of the anime for me was the training camp all-out mock battle, because that was one sequence I really wanted to see animated. The tournament arc felt like a blur, and personally, I didn't find it a whole lot interesting. But without saying too much, what comes after the tournament is a long sequence of story time, so this is about the only interesting part with any kind of action. I'm probably one of the few people out there who actually found the other manga, Mahou Senki Lyrical Nanoha Force, to be more interesting than ViVid. Sure, the protagonist is a dude, but the story is way more interesting and engaging. Too bad the manga is possibly on infinite hiatus, but I definitely would've liked to see the anime for Force instead of ViVid. In any case, more from the Nanoha franchise is great, but I definitely prefer the original series over ViVid. |
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| I wanted to see more of Lulu's fight, so with a end like this, I believe a next season will come soon, looking forward to see Einhart and Sieglinde's fight. This anime lacked of some Nanoha x Fate moments that were iin the manga, but at least a new movie of them is on the way! 6/10 |
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| Pretty solid final I must say, quite lovely wrap up and a cute ending in general! This season was a bit different than what I expected but it was still enjoyable and the battles sure were intense! All in all a pretty solid season of this franchise. |
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| Its not so much Lyrical Magical as the previous seasons, but it's still solid. And it actually enriches the Nanoha universe by showing what all those people do when they don't have to save the world, or the universe. And if you think about it, it's kinda stupid that as soon they defeated one maniac, a new one pops up. And there is no one else who can stop him. Which leads to the question: If there is always a maniac, what did they do before Nanoha became a magical girl? Who did stop the villians before? So it's nice too see what else is happening in the universe. Wouldn't mind more TSAB action, or another Nanoha Dungeon Bypass, and a real Starlight Breaker, no holds barred, like in StrikerS, but i take whatever comes this way.. |
| This was pretty bad, I would actually enjoyed this if the animation was better, but stiff animation with this cutesy art doesn't do a show that has no plot narrative any good. They can't even define characters long enough to give any sense of development. You can argue Einhart is developing, but she's literally the only one and she's so boring. Season 2 better turn up the fights and create some type of repercussion and conflict among the characters for whatever happens. I don't care if it's a "slice of life, friendly sports comp", it needs some conflict. It took 12 episodes to introduce the "Witch" that seems interested in Lulu. But tbh, since Lulu's character is completely off model from what he know in StrikerS, I don't even feel the tension from her attitude. It needs some grudge, it needs motivation for one of the characters to really fight at their maximum. What made MGLN so endearing was watching them really give their all to accomplish their tasks. This drive is replaced with "good sportsmanship" and it's killing what's otherwise a decent idea. Just because there is no "life threatening" event or "world changing" scenario, doesn't mean they can't ramp up the suspense. tl;dr it's lacking points across the board. Like a 5 for now, I might make it a 6 if they make part two and things start to progress from what they established here, therefore giving it purpose, but as it stands, this was lame as a series. I kinda like the BGM and the ED is good. |
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Rahkshilord said: Loli-Sazanami said: Better than Strikers but the Tournament Arc is so incomplete. StrikerS is far better than this, it has a coherent plot with actual threat and a clear objective, vivid has no plot or tension, or Nanoha, or Vivio (why are the TWO title characters the least important!?) I agree! This series is just for loli lovers and fanservice addicts who wants action. |
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Rahkshilord said: Newsflash: The franchise hasn't been about Nano basically since s1e4. As soon as Fate showed up, it was all about her. A's was all about Yagami-ke. The narrative purpose of Takamachi Nanoha is to explore the lives, personalities, and motivations of those around her, for one simple reason: She's fine. She's had juuuuust enough crap happen to her that she can relate to the plights of people like Fate, Hayate, the Wolkenritter, and the Numbers without actually having gone through anything of their magnitude.(why are the TWO title characters the least important!?) Vivio's continuing that tradition (gee, continuing Nanoha-mama's tradition, what a shock!). She already got her spotlight in StrikerS, and she's actually had more nastiness in her life because of that, though obviously she hasn't had much since. ...Huh, I just noticed that both Nano and her dad had a debilitating injury a few years before their daughters' first appearances. The circumstances are different, of course (I doubt Vivio was even around yet when Nano ended up in rehab), but... That said, it would be nice to see a little more of the adults (and Vita/Riin/Agito). Especially if there was a tournament they were eligible for! sarroush said: I'm sure you're not the only one - classic 7arcs shiptease! Not to mention that scene at the end between Sieg and Victor.First scene made me want to start shipping Einhart x Corona. EtherSword said: Am I seriously the only one who thinks Zafira looks like shit? I mean, Vita actually looks better, but Z looks like someone tried to turn him into an elf and failed!If I had to nitpick at anything, it would be the iteration of Fate and the quality of the animation but loved everything else as someone who read the manga way before this was aired. You're not wrong about Fate, tho, and Nano's even worse imo. I also can't stand what they had Fate do in the mock-battle; I swear she was acting more like Vita. O yeah, that's my other complaint about ViVid: Not enough Yagami! But I might be just a tiiiiiny bit biased. And I've said it before. |
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