[center] Tomodachi no Hanashi  Eiko is something of a plain Jane and a doormat, while her best friend Moe is a head-turning beauty. Despite their differences, their friendship is as strong as ever. Guys are always asking Moe out, but her answer is invariably "Only if you promise to put Eiko before me." MAL | Read Online | Torrent |
avelysSep 28, 2015 9:53 AM
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| Hey Rosasinensis :) You don't have to search for it. I provided links where to read online or download ^.^ Hope you enjoy it. |
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| Sure, the discussion is on Sunday so the transcript for that will be up. I haven't read it yet. We normally choose ones we haven't read yet for weekly manga :) |
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| Sup avelys, it's been a while! I didn't know this stuff is going on in the club, that's really cool! Usually it takes me a while to find a manga I want to read, but now I don't need to go out my way to search for a seemingly worthwhile manga. I have already read this though, but thanks for the recommendation. I'll keep a look out for more every week. :) |
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| @ToG25thBaam Hey ! Glad to be of help. We all discuss the weekly manga in a skype chat, if you're interested in joining us. Just PM me. (This goes for anybody else reading this message too ^.^) Discussion Transcript: [spoiler] [4:03:24 PM] avelys: So what did you guys think of the manga? Thoughts/impressions, etc. [4:03:42 PM] Ashwin: started out dumb af but ended up being pretty nice actually [4:03:45 PM] Koen: ^ [4:03:53 PM] avelys: Why dumb? [4:03:57 PM] Ashwin: i don't really like moe or edge-kun but they're all p good characters [4:04:31 PM] Ashwin: dumb because of moe's expectation for her relationships + the manga pushing that perspective by making it seem like tsuchida was the one who did something wrong [4:05:02 PM] avelys: I felt really bad for Tsuchida :( [4:05:07 PM] Ashwin: me too [4:05:13 PM] Jeni: yeah [4:05:15 PM] avelys: But in the end I'm glad she realized she was in the wrong, in a way. [4:05:15 PM] Sloth™: brb :3 [4:05:20 PM] Koen: first chapter was just not interesting. the set-up was annoying. like the I won't date you unless you care more about my best freind. that is not dating, girl that is twisted. and everything is awkward for eveyrone. like super awkward. no romaticism, no doki doki. just awkward stuff :S Now the second character the bully the friendship, the apologizing, that is a chapter that had spirit [4:05:40 PM] avelys: yeah he really developed nicely [4:05:44 PM] Ashwin: lmao this is pretty much exactly how i felt, except i thought bully-kun was pretty lame at first [4:05:58 PM] Ashwin: like "oh i'mma bully you but i'll ask you out later" what is this 2nd grade smh [4:06:02 PM] Ashwin: but the last chapter [4:06:05 PM] Ashwin: ties it all together nicely [4:06:20 PM] Ashwin: so in hindsight the first two chapters work pretty well [4:06:24 PM] Koen: well. for me it was pretty clear that he bullies here to protect his best friend [4:06:27 PM] Koen: which is all adorable [4:06:28 PM] Jeni: It did end well. [4:06:40 PM] Koen: like if you hrut my friend I kill you [4:06:46 PM] Koen: so moe and the guy were very alike in that [4:07:01 PM] Koen: and you noticed that [4:07:03 PM] Ashwin: yeah but even if we accept that revenge is a justifiable reaction, why not bully moe instead of eiko [4:07:07 PM] Koen: they thought the same complimented her the same :D [4:07:09 PM] Ashwin: eiko didn't do anything [4:07:26 PM] avelys: I felt like all their actions were justified. They were a little petty (especially Narugami) and Moe had her insecurities. But I found it rather noble. She clearly had some issues with friends before and wanted to make sure Eiko never has to feel the same thing she felt. She had a twisted way of being over protective but in the end it was just a great reason to not accept any boys and be closer to her bff. [4:07:41 PM] Koen: I'naragumi is the black haired guy? [4:07:41 PM] Ashwin: yeah they were definitely justified [4:07:43 PM] Ashwin: well [4:07:47 PM] Ashwin: actually no [4:07:51 PM] Ashwin: not justified morally [4:07:57 PM] Ashwin: but justified by their character, yeah [4:08:14 PM] avelys: They both value their friendships over romantic loves, Naru and Moe [4:08:16 PM] Ashwin: like their actions make more sense in light of their characterization [4:08:19 PM] avelys: Which is adorable how similar they are [4:08:31 PM] avelys: That scene where he's trying to date Eiko omg [4:08:35 PM | Edited 4:08:41 PM] avelys: The lightning rofl [4:08:55 PM] Ashwin: yea [4:09:21 PM] Ashwin: too bad about tsuchida [4:09:27 PM] Ashwin: he kinda rip'd after the first chapter [4:09:38 PM] avelys: I think they left it open for her to date him. Who knows. Cutest double dates <3 [4:09:45 PM] Ashwin: kek [4:10:06 PM] Sloth™: [4:07 PM] avelys: <<< That scene where he's trying to date Eiko omg The lightning roflyeah that was cute [4:10:08 PM] Koen: basically abby [4:10:10 PM] Koen: but who knows [4:10:13 PM] Sloth™: i liked that panel [4:10:21 PM] Koen: moe is maybe not the most likable person :D [4:10:22 PM] avelys: It was really heart warming how Eiko also demanded the boys also don't make Moe feel left out. So many feels. [4:10:23 PM] Ashwin: i don't actually mind the direction they took with tsuchida [4:10:31 PM] Koen: apparrenlty is what most guys think S: [4:10:34 PM] Ashwin: just feel bad for his character ya feel [4:10:34 PM] Koen: when they get to know her [4:10:48 PM] Ashwin: see that's the part i didn't like [4:10:54 PM] avelys: well all those boys actually idealized her [4:11:03 PM] Ashwin: there's a difference between "you have to be friends with my friends" and "you have to prioritize my friends" [4:11:10 PM] avelys: if they really cared for her they would've seen how she put Eiko above all else [4:11:15 PM] avelys: but they just wanted that Moe booty [4:11:26 PM] Ashwin: well that's another issue with the manga lol [4:11:30 PM] Ashwin: there's like 2 nice guys [4:11:36 PM] Ashwin: and apparently everyone else is a giant asshole [4:11:40 PM] Ashwin: same with the girls [4:11:41 PM] Ashwin: OH [4:11:42 PM] Ashwin: btw [4:11:45 PM] Ashwin: do you remember the scene inuh [4:11:50 PM] Ashwin: chapter 3 it think [4:11:50 PM] avelys: usually the nice guys are too shy to come and confess :( [4:11:53 PM] Koen: moe is an ass :S [4:11:56 PM] Koen: js [4:12:00 PM] Koen: she was portrayed as one [4:12:03 PM] Koen: she has good sides [4:12:06 PM] Ashwin: where narugami is standing outside the classroom and invites eiko to go out with him [4:12:07 PM] Koen: but hs eis not a nice girl [4:12:10 PM] Ashwin: and ALL THE CLASSMATES FREAK OUT [4:12:11 PM] Ashwin: LOL [4:12:12 PM] Ashwin: love it [4:12:16 PM] Ashwin: shoujo never change [4:12:22 PM] avelys: LOL [4:12:27 PM] avelys: i thought of u immediately [4:12:33 PM | Edited 4:12:36 PM] avelys: that's the best part of shoujo, pls [4:12:40 PM] Ashwin: literally when i saw that scene, almost fell out of my chair [4:12:45 PM] Ashwin: ok that's not true but [4:12:53 PM] Ashwin: in my mind i almost fell out of my chair [4:12:58 PM] avelys: rofl [4:13:09 PM] Ashwin: koen i p much agree [4:13:12 PM] Ashwin: about moe [4:13:16 PM] Ashwin: the same for edge kun [4:13:31 PM] Ashwin: but solid characters [4:13:37 PM] Ashwin: even if they're not very likeable at first [4:13:45 PM] Koen: true [4:13:51 PM] Koen: they are good characters [4:13:55 PM] avelys: I really like that he acknowledged Moe and sees through it. Like he knew that she spilt the drink, etc. He's on the same level. A lot of guys would not put up with this. [4:13:59 PM] Koen: just not as friendly as you'd expect them to be [4:13:59 PM] Ashwin: ye all you can ask for really [4:14:10 PM] Ashwin: i mean tbh [4:14:20 PM] Ashwin: i would put up with it but i'd have been pretty upset at moe [4:14:24 PM] Ashwin: like fuck that [4:14:30 PM] Ashwin: stop "testing" me you're not god [4:14:48 PM] Ashwin: moe is too possessive [4:14:56 PM] Ashwin: as a character it's fine because she has reasons to be but [4:15:01 PM] Ashwin: that doesn't mean i have to like her [4:15:54 PM] avelys: In a way, I think Moe's idea is good. Just portrayed... idk. The delivery is questionable. Because friendships tend to get broken when you introduce a relationships. I've had issues before where the guy I was seeing had an issue with my best friend and it was a huge crisis. But taking this approach, you make sure the guy knows that you will be discussing the relationship with the bff, you will be hanging out with her a lot too so not to get jealous... etc. A lot of guys want to be put first but Moe is weeding them out. [4:16:21 PM] Koen: weeding them out [4:16:23 PM] avelys: To find someone who will find what she finds important and value her friendship. I think that's when he will truly love her, in a way. [4:16:26 PM] Koen: more like discouraging them :S [4:16:31 PM] avelys: Or possibly that's how she sees it [4:16:37 PM] Koen: yeah [4:16:38 PM] Ashwin: the guy should never have an issue with her friends (or vice versa), but the friends shouldn't mess around and be controlling and possessive about the whole thing either [4:16:41 PM] Koen: but it is extreme [4:16:47 PM] Koen: what ashwin says :D [4:16:53 PM] avelys: Yes it's going to be extreme for dramatic effect [4:16:57 PM] avelys: But it's touching [4:17:08 PM] Sloth™: yah moe was way too possessive of eiko D: [4:17:18 PM] avelys: It sucks sometimes but guys do get jelly of the best friend and are controlling themselves. [4:17:22 PM] Sloth™: but i feel that was her fear of her friend getting a boyfriend and leaving her alone [4:17:24 PM] avelys: Eeven if not at first [4:17:35 PM] avelys: they're like Tsuchida [4:17:41 PM] avelys: Which is NORMAL [4:17:49 PM] avelys: you want to spend time with someone you love [4:18:24 PM] avelys: so it's not like i'm excusing Moe, but I understand her intentions [4:18:26 PM] Jeni: [4:15 PM] avelys: <<< Because friendships tend to get broken when you introduce a relationships. I've had issues before where the guy I was seeing had an issue with my best friend and it was a huge crisis. It's also tough when you dislike the guy that your good friend is going out with. What do you say to her? [4:18:34 PM] avelys: Yeah, it's very difficult [4:18:41 PM] Ashwin: [4:17 PM] avelys: <<< so it's not like i'm excusing Moe, but I understand her intentions abby i totally agree with this [4:18:45 PM] Koen: you can say it [4:18:48 PM] Koen: but you can't decide on it [4:18:48 PM] avelys: That's why it made me laugh when she told Eiko to tell her right away if she doesn't like the dude LOL [4:18:50 PM] Ashwin: i'm just saying i don't like her personality [4:19:03 PM] Ashwin: the intentions are understandable, i just don't think her actions are justified from a moral standpoint [4:19:08 PM] Jeni: [4:17 PM] Koen: <<< you can say it but you can't decide on itSay it at the cost of your friendship though? [4:19:17 PM] avelys: yeah, Moe is misunderstood. Nobody likes her personality, even in the manga ;_; [4:19:18 PM] Ashwin: but the characterization was good [4:19:27 PM] Jeni: I usually kept quiet about my opinions. [4:19:52 PM] Koen: does it cost your friendship if you give your opinion about your bffs boyfriend? [4:19:59 PM] Koen: it should not :? [4:20:12 PM | Edited 4:20:24 PM] Jeni: in high school, sometimes yes, unfortunately [4:20:20 PM] Koen: drama :D [4:20:23 PM] Ashwin: idk about misunderstood, i think her personality is very brusque and incompatible with a lot of people. she might be fluffy on the inside but how you present yourself and treat people outwardly is important too. it's just an issue of compatibility, in my opinion [4:20:24 PM] Koen: fuck drama [4:20:45 PM] Sloth™: sloth is a drama free dude (sun) [4:20:46 PM] Ashwin: i keep quiet about my opinions too ;-; [4:20:56 PM] Ashwin: ye lol i have very little drama in my life but then again [4:21:01 PM] Ashwin: i tend to avoid people like moe and edge-kun [4:21:12 PM] Ashwin: then again [4:21:15 PM] Ashwin: i avoid people so... [4:21:17 PM] Ashwin: >_> [4:21:18 PM] avelys: I do see her as incompatible with a lot of ppl, that's why she has this anxiety that she'll be left. but her and Eiko are really on the same page. it's adorable [4:21:23 PM] Ashwin: yeah [4:21:59 PM] avelys: to others it looks like she's controlling and whatever, but Eiko doesn't see it that way at all. [4:21:59 PM] Ashwin: high school is shitty hs should never be a barometer of real-world relationships [4:22:22 PM] Jeni: [4:21 PM] Ashwin: <<< high school is shitty hs should never be a barometer of real-world relationshipsgood point [4:22:57 PM] Ashwin: if your friendship crumbles because your friendo doesn't like a guy and you're an adult then that's a serious issue your friend needs to work out themselves [4:23:02 PM] Ashwin: well as long as [4:23:05 PM] Ashwin: the guy is a decent one [4:23:12 PM] avelys: that's really hard to decide [4:23:18 PM] Ashwin: not like a wifebeater or mass murderer [4:23:23 PM] avelys: because you were the first to be there for that girl [4:23:30 PM] Ashwin: like if my friends told me that a girl i was seeing was actually a shitty person [4:23:35 PM] Ashwin: and not just "oh i don't like her" [4:23:37 PM] avelys: and in comes this D who thinks he can just walk in and hog her lmao [4:23:40 PM] Ashwin: and they were able to back it up, i'd trust them [4:23:45 PM] Koen: bros before hos :S [4:23:48 PM] avelys: it's hard to decide, ashwin [4:23:51 PM] avelys: especially if you're in love [4:24:03 PM] avelys: sometimes logic is canceled out [4:24:07 PM] Ashwin: well i usually introduce girls i'm seeing to my friends before things get serious hahah [4:24:12 PM] Jeni: [4:22 PM] Koen: <<< bros before hos :Sthat statement, lol [4:24:15 PM] Ashwin: the weeding-out happens early [4:24:18 PM] Ashwin: but like [4:24:18 PM] avelys: yeah [4:24:21 PM] Ashwin: i never let my friends [4:24:22 PM] Koen: I mean there is the female variant [4:24:24 PM] Ashwin: take control of my romantic life [4:24:28 PM] Koen: but I forgot what it was [4:24:47 PM] Jeni: Really? I've never heard of female version [4:24:47 PM] Ashwin: i would never allow a friend to jump in and make my relationship decisions for me [4:24:52 PM] avelys: But you do want your friends to approve in some way [4:24:56 PM] Ashwin: oh absolutely [4:25:06 PM] avelys: But girls discuss intimate details with their best friends [4:25:13 PM] avelys: And what Moe said in the end is VERY true [4:25:26 PM] avelys: It's like basically dating her because Eiko will be telling her everything. [4:25:26 PM] Jeni: my good friend in hs dated a few d-bags, but I didn't say anything until after they broke up. [4:25:27 PM] Koen: sista before mistas? [4:25:38 PM] Koen: lasses before asses? [4:25:48 PM] Jeni: lol, Koen [4:25:56 PM] Koen: box before cocks? [4:25:59 PM] Koen: chicks before dicks? [4:26:11 PM] Jeni: oh, plenty of choices :D [4:26:16 PM] Ashwin: i always tell my friends when i think the people they're seeing are shitty people. i don't tell them when i feel they're not "right" for each other though, that's a really hard line to manage so i just stay away from that one [4:27:11 PM] avelys: Especially when you have no idea what's happening behind closed doors between them. [4:27:18 PM] Ashwin: yeah [4:27:28 PM] Ashwin: and i don't say anything about long term relationships either [4:27:46 PM] Jeni: well, I went to a small hs, so everyone knew who the d-bags were, but they got away with it because they were popular. so my friend knew and chose to go out with them anyway. [4:28:06 PM] avelys: The d-bags always get the girls [4:28:26 PM] Ashwin: really the only time a friend should ever "interfere" with a relationship is if it's at the very beginning and they think that person has a crappy personality or something like that, or if there might be abuse going on [4:29:43 PM] Koen: I'd say at any time that that person is harmful to the firend [4:29:50 PM] Koen: but only to advice, [4:29:54 PM] Koen: not to force an opinion [4:30:01 PM] Koen: unless abuse [4:30:13 PM] Koen: if there is abuse, then stop friend at all costs [4:30:19 PM] avelys: Yeah a friend can't control another friend. That's not friendship. At least with Moe, she was realizing this and testing him. She wasn't controlling Eiko. [4:30:27 PM] Jeni: [4:29 PM] Koen: <<< if there is abuse, then stop friend at all costsOh, definitely [4:30:30 PM] avelys: I love how he told her he was going to confess :D [4:30:39 PM] avelys: and then he clarified he wasn't asking for her permission [4:30:43 PM] Jeni: yeah [4:30:43 PM] avelys: :D [4:30:49 PM] Jeni: that was good [4:30:57 PM] Ashwin: oh i meant if one person in a relationship was being abusive towards the other, and either person was my friend, then i'd step in [4:31:03 PM] avelys: but he had enough respect to tell her first [4:32:01 PM] Ashwin: or i'd like to believe i would >_> it's always easy to say stuff like this but then it actually happens :s [4:32:21 PM] Ashwin: idk how i would react if i found out one of my friends was in an abusive relationship actually [4:33:03 PM] avelys: i think you will step in [4:33:06 PM] avelys: you're v noble [4:33:08 PM] avelys: and a good friend [4:33:17 PM] avelys: you'll probably threaten the dude [4:33:18 PM] avelys: qt ash [4:34:02 PM] Ashwin: i would unleash my inner edge [4:34:15 PM] Ashwin: wait does being edgy mean i'm confrontational or i'm withdrawn [4:34:21 PM] Ashwin: it would have to be withdrawn right [4:34:29 PM] Ashwin: but if i'm provoked then i'd be very violent [4:34:39 PM] avelys: yeah just think Lelouch [4:34:42 PM] Ashwin: LOL [4:34:51 PM] Ashwin: just give me geass and i'm set [4:34:54 PM] avelys: LMFAO [4:35:00 PM] Ashwin: fuck how great would real life geass be tho [4:35:04 PM] avelys: ikr [4:35:16 PM] avelys: v v great [4:35:24 PM] avelys: we'd probs go extinct [4:35:28 PM] avelys: good for nature, i guess. [4:35:37 PM] Ashwin: well not all of us, i meant just me [4:35:41 PM] Ashwin: or the people in this chat [4:35:43 PM] avelys: yes [4:35:45 PM] avelys: still stands [4:35:56 PM] avelys: u'll destroy this sekai ;_; [4:35:59 PM] Ashwin: pls [4:36:05 PM] Ashwin: i would just use it to make people do my errands [4:36:09 PM] avelys: rofl [4:36:13 PM] avelys: ANYWAYS [4:36:16 PM] avelys: SIDETRACKS [4:36:30 PM] Ashwin: and also have people wire some money to me so i'd never have to work, and mundane stuff like that [4:36:36 PM] avelys: Looks like everybody enjoyed the manga overall, I think [4:36:43 PM] Ashwin: y [4:36:50 PM] avelys: Do you guys think it would've benefitted being longer or it's good as it is? [4:37:23 PM] Ashwin: nah it's fine as is [4:37:25 PM] Jeni: I think it's good as is. [4:37:25 PM] Koen: good as it is [4:37:35 PM] Ashwin: this wasn't built to be a longer work [4:37:46 PM] Ashwin: author said everything they wanted to say pretty much [4:38:02 PM] avelys: I wonder what it would've been like longer :o Probably more dragged out. But yeah, I like it how it is. It focused on what it had to and conveyed its message well. [4:38:13 PM] avelys: Yeah, exactly. [4:38:46 PM] avelys: Okay, any last words before I post the transcript? ^.^ [4:39:17 PM] Koen: boobies [4:39:18 PM] Ashwin: looks like we're good [4:39:21 PM] Ashwin: lol [4:39:25 PM] Jeni: pfft, Koen [4:39:29 PM] Koen: get that in the transcript! [4:39:41 PM] Jeni: what's not to like about them, right? ;) [4:39:49 PM] avelys: (facepalm) [4:39:50 PM] Ashwin: really though [4:39:55 PM] Ashwin: can we make this a discussion |
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