 [spoiler] [11/29/2015 4:57:58 PM | Edited 4:58:00 PM] Avelys: Okay, everybody ready? ^.^ [11/29/2015 4:58:09 PM] Candy: I liked the part [11/29/2015 4:58:16 PM | Edited 4:58:20 PM] Candy: where they said hi [11/29/2015 4:58:21 PM] Ryan: same [11/29/2015 4:58:24 PM] Vincent: I'm ready [11/29/2015 4:58:50 PM] Koen: my body is ready [11/29/2015 4:59:20 PM] Avelys: (whistle) [11/29/2015 4:59:32 PM] Sloth™: haha i just finished (rofl) [11/29/2015 4:59:39 PM] Sloth™: like 30 seconds ago [11/29/2015 4:59:50 PM] Avelys: eeeey [11/29/2015 4:59:53 PM] Avelys: dat timing [11/29/2015 5:00:09 PM] Sloth™: an hour to read 300 pages. not bad sloth :d [11/29/2015 5:00:11 PM] Koen: you rock [11/29/2015 5:00:35 PM] Ryan: it took me an hour to read it too [11/29/2015 5:00:48 PM] Ryan: and i still have mixed opinions [11/29/2015 5:01:01 PM] Sloth™: the episodic feel kept throwing me for a loop :d [11/29/2015 5:01:05 PM] Sloth™: like who's all these new ppl [11/29/2015 5:01:06 PM] Avelys: omg yes [11/29/2015 5:01:23 PM] Avelys: I kept like, thinking about the last scenario and then finding it hard to focus on the new people x) [11/29/2015 5:01:34 PM] Koen: new people everywhere [11/29/2015 5:01:35 PM] Ryan: honestly i felt cause of the episodic format that most of the chapters were hit and miss for me [11/29/2015 5:01:36 PM] Koen: every new chapter [11/29/2015 5:01:36 PM] Avelys: since the last ones are so thought provoking [11/29/2015 5:01:40 PM] Koen: but it was nice [11/29/2015 5:01:40 PM] Vincent: I think it's kind of the point to show that many people though [11/29/2015 5:01:56 PM] Avelys: I did appreciate that we saw reccuring characters [11/29/2015 5:02:01 PM] Candy: wait [11/29/2015 5:02:03 PM] Avelys: and similar locations [11/29/2015 5:02:04 PM] Candy: can u add me back [11/29/2015 5:02:07 PM] Vincent: Since the people of the previous chapter showed up in the chapter after that (at the very start) [11/29/2015 5:02:07 PM] Candy: after the convo ends [11/29/2015 5:02:11 PM] Avelys: ok [11/29/2015 5:02:16 PM] Candy: I tend to read the discussions and spoil mysself [11/29/2015 5:02:17 PM] Candy: thanks [11/29/2015 5:02:19 PM] Sloth™: oh brandi not finished? [11/29/2015 5:02:20 PM] *** Candy has left *** [11/29/2015 5:02:22 PM] Avelys: lmao [11/29/2015 5:02:24 PM] Vincent: So it made the point that within a small group of people a lot can be going on [11/29/2015 5:02:41 PM] Avelys: their character designs were really similar so it got confusing >_< [11/29/2015 5:02:50 PM] Sloth™: too damn true [11/29/2015 5:02:55 PM] Ryan: anyone noticed that most of the characters are written almost the same [11/29/2015 5:02:57 PM] Sloth™: all them normies :d [11/29/2015 5:03:07 PM] Avelys: and when some characters came back later on I'm like... wait... where did ... I see u.... [11/29/2015 5:03:08 PM] Avelys: rofl [11/29/2015 5:03:33 PM] Koen: yup [11/29/2015 5:03:36 PM] Koen: and they have the same names [11/29/2015 5:03:38 PM] Koen: that's the point [11/29/2015 5:03:41 PM] Koen: they all knew eachother [11/29/2015 5:04:28 PM] Avelys: But I don't mind it that much. I don't think the point was to feel personally attached to any of the characters. But the themes and glimpsing into their harsh realities. I think it did an exceptional job of entering people's thoughts and feelings, even though it was for a short period. Like it felt genuine and left an impact. Every story. [11/29/2015 5:05:15 PM] Koen: It was the life of people and how it worked, and it was portrayed into an interesting way [11/29/2015 5:05:19 PM] Vincent: Yea, I think the chapters were more meant as a small step in somebody's life (and the last step in some) [11/29/2015 5:05:53 PM] Vincent: I felt like the people in the first volume were a bit too stereotypical though [11/29/2015 5:06:07 PM] Ryan: i think it got kinda redundant though cause most of the chapters started with the characters feeling all gloomy than they get into a life-altering situation and they gain a new perspective on life. i could have sworn more than 5 chapters used that formula and i got pretty bored. [11/29/2015 5:06:20 PM] Vincent: Or rather, in a rather stereotypical setting [11/29/2015 5:06:52 PM] Sloth™: the dad trying to get home to his daughters birthday and getting beaten up was kinda mean to him :d [11/29/2015 5:07:04 PM] Avelys: Or moment of impact or change. Like that moment where they want to change and some go through with it. I was especially touched with the father chapter where he tried to handle work stuff, go to his daughter's birthday and fight those thugs. He really wanted to bring meaning to his life. [11/29/2015 5:07:07 PM] Sloth™: and then that face with the kid "what are you" lol was so odd [11/29/2015 5:07:23 PM] Koen: are you a thing [11/29/2015 5:07:23 PM] Avelys: LOL [11/29/2015 5:07:26 PM] Ryan: the chapter with the bear was my favorite [11/29/2015 5:07:29 PM] Koen: ytou're not my mommy [11/29/2015 5:07:34 PM] Koen: beardude was cool :D [11/29/2015 5:07:36 PM] Avelys: Yes I loved the bear chapter!!! [11/29/2015 5:07:36 PM] Koen: he died :( [11/29/2015 5:07:37 PM] Sloth™: the bear that stole the mob money? [11/29/2015 5:07:43 PM] Ryan: he was g [11/29/2015 5:07:45 PM] Koen: well did you see any other beers [11/29/2015 5:07:45 PM] Ryan: yup [11/29/2015 5:07:52 PM] Sloth™: maybe :d [11/29/2015 5:07:57 PM] Vincent: I feel like that if he did manage to do all those things it would be too far of the feeling of the manga [11/29/2015 5:08:18 PM] Vincent: it wasn't a "happy ending" kind of manga, but more down to earth where in the end everything goes on [11/29/2015 5:08:23 PM] Vincent: regardless what happens [11/29/2015 5:09:00 PM | Edited 5:09:40 PM] Vincent: (I felt like the shirigami were a bit too supernatural for the manga too, but that might be me/a culture difference) [11/29/2015 5:09:03 PM] Avelys: I mean I guess I understand the whole formulaic view, and yeah it did. But I think they all had different issues and it handled their reactions really well. Not all their problems were resolved but I think it's pretty impressive to make their feelings so relatable. [11/29/2015 5:09:36 PM] Avelys: in the end everything goes on regardless what happenslife goes on despite you experiencing a life altering experience <--- thesis of manga [11/29/2015 5:09:36 PM] Ryan: they just gained a better appreciation for life [11/29/2015 5:09:40 PM] Avelys: and I think it did that well [11/29/2015 5:10:12 PM] Avelys: yeah some of the super natural elements felt a little odd since it tried to be realistic throughout [11/29/2015 5:10:16 PM] Avelys: but it was interesting to say the least. [11/29/2015 5:10:24 PM] Koen: it is kind of like oyasumi [11/29/2015 5:10:26 PM] Koen: mostly real [11/29/2015 5:10:30 PM] Koen: but an unreal element [11/29/2015 5:10:31 PM] Koen: cause you know [11/29/2015 5:10:32 PM] Koen: fuck it [11/29/2015 5:11:35 PM] Avelys: Well in Punpun it was used to express their inner turmoil. This wasn't really used in that way. I'm not sure if I should wave it off as "oh they had a bad dream" since it kind of had a lot of those bizzare scenarios (the frog) and was waved off as a dream [11/29/2015 5:12:00 PM] Koen: Pegasus though? [11/29/2015 5:12:01 PM] Avelys: but I don't think it really matters (rofl) [11/29/2015 5:12:05 PM] Avelys: Pegasus <3 [11/29/2015 5:12:07 PM] Ryan: vibrations [11/29/2015 5:12:16 PM] Avelys: def felt a Pegasus vibe from um [11/29/2015 5:12:17 PM] Avelys: that guy [11/29/2015 5:12:22 PM] Avelys: that wanted to fly [11/29/2015 5:12:33 PM] Avelys: and flew in the end (rofl) [11/29/2015 5:12:38 PM] Ryan: idk this is prob my least favorite work of asano [11/29/2015 5:12:39 PM] Koen: he flew [11/29/2015 5:12:40 PM] Koen: alright [11/29/2015 5:13:35 PM] Avelys: I did love the animal integration in this one. I felt it was used very well in the story with the father and his son, and the bird falling. [11/29/2015 5:13:45 PM] Avelys: ;-; [11/29/2015 5:13:57 PM] Avelys: And that qt doggy <3 [11/29/2015 5:14:12 PM] Ryan: there was a few chapters dedicated to bands i noticed [11/29/2015 5:15:05 PM] Koen: yeah. or all to one band [11/29/2015 5:15:10 PM] Avelys: Made me think of this manga: http://myanimelist.net/manga/3101/Deep_Love:_Pao_no_Monogatari which made me cry lmao altho this is when I started manga, dunno how I would feel if I re-read it. But yeah, having the dog walking around as we see characters that were mentioned was pretty cool. [11/29/2015 5:15:10 PM] Koen: of he girl who succeeded [11/29/2015 5:15:14 PM] Koen: good girl really [11/29/2015 5:15:22 PM] Ashwin: aw fuck did the discussion start [11/29/2015 5:15:29 PM] Avelys: Isn't it all one band though, Ryan? [11/29/2015 5:15:34 PM] Koen: just started though ashiwn [11/29/2015 5:15:37 PM] Koen: if you can join [11/29/2015 5:15:51 PM] Ryan: is it? the characters are so hard for me to distinguish [11/29/2015 5:16:08 PM] Ryan: i just noticed how he used music for alot of the characters [11/29/2015 5:16:10 PM] Ashwin: ye just trying to catch up [11/29/2015 5:16:28 PM] Vincent: In the end the manga felt (to me) like looking at an ant hill. Where even if you look at a tiny part of the whole colony, there is so much going on which have a (big) impact for the individuals (even if the colony as a whole never notices). Which makes you wonder about how odd/strange/complex the world/colony as a whole is. (Hence the "What a wonderfull world") [11/29/2015 5:16:56 PM] Avelys: They had this college band, then they stopped, then they started again with that girl and the guy who used to have a Mohawk. then he quit his job. then he had a job again. he was bitter that the band took off without him. and now in the latter chapters it seems he was unemployed and wanted to get married. I think. [11/29/2015 5:17:34 PM] Avelys: That's really interesting, Vincent. I love the analogy. [11/29/2015 5:17:40 PM] Ashwin: that sounds pretty much right [11/29/2015 5:17:57 PM | Edited 5:18:29 PM] Vincent: [Sunday, November 29, 2015 5:16 PM] Avelys: <<< he was bitter that the band took off without him.The band turned out to be a huge fake (they had to karaoke their song), which gave him/his dreams a reality check [11/29/2015 5:17:57 PM] Ryan: oh wow i didnt even catch that [11/29/2015 5:18:36 PM] Avelys: yeah it took a lot of observation to see the connecting threads [11/29/2015 5:18:47 PM] Avelys: but it's pretty difficult. asano stop trolling pls [11/29/2015 5:19:14 PM] Avelys: Ashwin what did you think of the manga? [11/29/2015 5:19:38 PM | Edited 5:19:43 PM] Avelys: And do you guys like any story in particular? [11/29/2015 5:19:55 PM] Avelys: I think the bear one was mentioned. [11/29/2015 5:19:55 PM] Ashwin: was good, a little better than solanin imo [11/29/2015 5:19:59 PM] Avelys: ^ [11/29/2015 5:20:00 PM] Avelys: Agreed [11/29/2015 5:20:04 PM] Ryan: really? [11/29/2015 5:20:06 PM] Ashwin: I read it like a year and a half ago I think so it's been a while but [11/29/2015 5:20:07 PM] Ashwin: yeah [11/29/2015 5:20:09 PM] Ryan: i liked solanin way more [11/29/2015 5:20:46 PM] Avelys: I liked Solanin but I really loved the variety of situations in this one. The story constantly kept moving. Like a good pace. It was really engaging for me. [11/29/2015 5:21:13 PM] Ashwin: solanin is good too. but it gave the impression that asano had much more story to tell and couldn't fit it in [11/29/2015 5:21:24 PM] Ryan: some of the stuff in this manga prob went over my head while solanin was more direct to me i guess. [11/29/2015 5:21:36 PM] Avelys: It's like looking into Asano's mind. Working on a work where he has to constantly come up with ideas. It's amazing to read his work :] [11/29/2015 5:21:36 PM] Ashwin: subasekai is like that too but [11/29/2015 5:21:40 PM] Ashwin: I feel it's more intentional here [11/29/2015 5:23:33 PM] Avelys: Like each story in this manga, were so unique. Like how did he do it so well? None of it felt badly written. And all the worries people normally have, he was able to convey it really well with his characters. Putting them in bizarre situations. But it didn't feel forced. Or preachy. [11/29/2015 5:23:58 PM] Ashwin: I don't remember nearly as much about the particulars of this manga as I thought I did x_x I should've reread it. but i'd say the purpose behind subasekai is to capture the transience of life, and I thought the format of the story accomplished this, where you have these short interconnected stories that give you glimpses of all these characters' [11/29/2015 5:24:17 PM] Ashwin: characters' lives and goals and whatnot, and then it ends on kind of a flat note [11/29/2015 5:24:29 PM] Ashwin: but not "flat" in a bad way [11/29/2015 5:24:49 PM] Ryan: yeah i guess i just overthinked some of it cause i didnt understand the frog or the snowman chapters at all [11/29/2015 5:25:22 PM] Avelys: but that last line, all I kept thinking was "oh he must be the neighbor of that other dude that mentioned his neighbor had a windchime" which kind of ignites this visual of the characters all being connected somehow. Which was nice. Despite no definite conclusion, life goes on. [11/29/2015 5:25:28 PM] Ashwin: yeah idk a lot of whether you like asano manga comes down to how much it resonates with you [11/29/2015 5:25:41 PM] Ashwin: i'm a huge asano fanboy but some of his works don't really resonate with me either [11/29/2015 5:25:47 PM] Ashwin: like girl by the sea [11/29/2015 5:26:20 PM] Avelys: The snowman? Which one is that, Ryan? [11/29/2015 5:26:33 PM] Ryan: its like ch 8 in the first volume i think [11/29/2015 5:26:36 PM] Avelys: And what in particular didn't you understand with the frog chapter (think) [11/29/2015 5:26:37 PM] Ashwin: yes asano is really good at connecting bits and pieces of his overarching narrative [11/29/2015 5:26:39 PM] Ryan: like 10 pages [11/29/2015 5:27:02 PM] Ashwin: lots of little motifs thrown in and referenced later on in subtle ways [11/29/2015 5:27:06 PM] Vincent: [Sunday, November 29, 2015 5:26 PM] Ryan: <<< its like ch 8 in the first volume i thinkyou mean the girl that hoped to find a ring in it? [11/29/2015 5:27:10 PM] Ryan: wait was the frog one when she comes back home [11/29/2015 5:27:18 PM] Vincent: yea [11/29/2015 5:27:19 PM] Vincent: the rain girl [11/29/2015 5:27:20 PM] Ashwin: y I think so [11/29/2015 5:27:31 PM] Avelys: OH [11/29/2015 5:27:33 PM] Ryan: ok nvm i got that one [11/29/2015 5:27:36 PM] Ashwin: i like that one [11/29/2015 5:27:46 PM] Ashwin: idr the snowman one though [11/29/2015 5:27:54 PM] Ryan: i'll link you guys [11/29/2015 5:27:57 PM] Avelys: The frog one was cute :') [11/29/2015 5:28:03 PM] Avelys: I loved the whole rainbow thing~ [11/29/2015 5:28:10 PM] Avelys: finding your way back home [11/29/2015 5:28:16 PM] Avelys: The guilt the girl must've felt tho :s [11/29/2015 5:28:32 PM] Ryan: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/What-a-Wonderful-World/7?id=66644 its ch 7 [11/29/2015 5:28:34 PM] Avelys: Her mom died trying to find her </3 [11/29/2015 5:29:13 PM] Ashwin: oh [11/29/2015 5:29:17 PM] Ashwin: what didn't you like about this chapter [11/29/2015 5:29:22 PM] Ashwin: or did you like it [11/29/2015 5:29:47 PM] Ryan: i didnt hate it i just dont understand [11/29/2015 5:30:13 PM] Ashwin: like the message or just in general? [11/29/2015 5:30:20 PM] Ryan: message [11/29/2015 5:30:58 PM] Avelys: I think she is the sister from another character in a previous chapter, iirc [11/29/2015 5:31:01 PM] Ryan: it said she brought the snowman inside [11/29/2015 5:31:10 PM] Ryan: but i dont get why [11/29/2015 5:31:19 PM] Avelys: #womanlogic [11/29/2015 5:31:20 PM] Avelys: pls [11/29/2015 5:31:21 PM] Avelys: ryan [11/29/2015 5:31:28 PM] Avelys: y u question a sad woman [11/29/2015 5:31:34 PM] Avelys: she knew it was stupid [11/29/2015 5:31:34 PM] Ryan: i dont understand these creatures [11/29/2015 5:31:41 PM] Avelys: but you want to preserve something precious [11/29/2015 5:31:46 PM] Avelys: despite it not lasting [11/29/2015 5:31:47 PM] Avelys: ^^^^ [11/29/2015 5:31:49 PM] Avelys: transience [11/29/2015 5:31:51 PM] Ashwin: lmao [11/29/2015 5:31:54 PM] Ryan: fucking dumb [11/29/2015 5:31:58 PM] Ryan: im jk [11/29/2015 5:31:59 PM] Ashwin: actually when i first read it i though [11/29/2015 5:32:04 PM] Ashwin: i thought her ex made that snowman [11/29/2015 5:32:06 PM] Ashwin: and then left [11/29/2015 5:32:16 PM] Avelys: he did [11/29/2015 5:32:24 PM] Ashwin: ok yeah [11/29/2015 5:32:26 PM] Ashwin: then that's why [11/29/2015 5:33:02 PM] Avelys: her delusions of there being a ring makes me think she wanted a commitment but was scared. [11/29/2015 5:33:09 PM] Avelys: WOMEN PUT MEN THROUGH TESTS [11/29/2015 5:33:11 PM] Avelys: smh [11/29/2015 5:33:16 PM] Ryan: fuck [11/29/2015 5:33:28 PM] Avelys: all of u fail |-( [11/29/2015 5:33:34 PM] Ryan: i think i missed the "ring" part when i read it thats why [11/29/2015 5:33:36 PM] Ryan: my bad [11/29/2015 5:33:41 PM] Koen: what ring? [11/29/2015 5:33:42 PM] Ashwin: kek [11/29/2015 5:33:50 PM] Avelys: She said he left a ring in the snowman [11/29/2015 5:33:55 PM] Avelys: Then she added "jk no ring" [11/29/2015 5:34:06 PM] Ryan: and then she wet her bed [11/29/2015 5:34:09 PM] Avelys: lmao [11/29/2015 5:34:23 PM] Koen: cause that makes sense [11/29/2015 5:34:36 PM] Ashwin: ya the story is basically, she broke up with her bf, she still misses him, the ring comment is about her wishing that they were still together and potentially getting married, then she's like "fuck it #life" the end [11/29/2015 5:35:04 PM] Ryan: yeah [11/29/2015 5:35:25 PM] Avelys: I feel like there's a lot of indecision with these characters [11/29/2015 5:35:28 PM] Avelys: realistic but frustrating [11/29/2015 5:35:32 PM] Ashwin: that's all asano characters [11/29/2015 5:35:33 PM] Avelys: Like PPL PLS [11/29/2015 5:35:39 PM] Ryan: pretty much [11/29/2015 5:35:40 PM] Ashwin: they're all just dicking around waiting for smth to happen [11/29/2015 5:35:49 PM] Ryan: all these characters are frustrated [11/29/2015 5:35:57 PM | Edited 5:35:59 PM] Avelys: I loved when one of the early chaps, the girl came back after the bf quit his job then came back later. lol ppl [11/29/2015 5:36:04 PM] Ashwin: i'd say "they should just all fuck" but i mean [11/29/2015 5:36:06 PM] Ashwin: that already happens [11/29/2015 5:36:15 PM] Ashwin: and they're still frustrated [11/29/2015 5:36:20 PM] Koen: of course [11/29/2015 5:36:22 PM] Koen: but love is love [11/29/2015 5:36:24 PM] Vincent: [Sunday, November 29, 2015 5:35 PM] Avelys: <<< I feel like there's a lot of indecision with these characters realistic but frustratingyea, it's all about people who are confused how to handle life [11/29/2015 5:36:35 PM] Avelys: The girl in the frog chapter sums it up well, saying fucking feels nice but she feels empty [11/29/2015 5:36:44 PM] Avelys: that page was so lonely. damn [11/29/2015 5:36:52 PM] Ashwin: i think asano is interesting because his stories can be pretty depressing but his messages are generally uplifting [11/29/2015 5:36:53 PM] Avelys: could really feel the feelings [11/29/2015 5:36:59 PM | Edited 5:37:11 PM] Vincent: [Sunday, November 29, 2015 5:35 PM] Avelys: <<< I loved when one of the early chaps, the girl came back after the bf quit his job then came back later. lol pplshe didn't have anywhere else to go (and it's probably one of those fights where you regret what you said x time later) [11/29/2015 5:37:09 PM] Avelys: Yeah, all of them regret [11/29/2015 5:37:15 PM] Avelys: And don't think 10 steps ahead [11/29/2015 5:37:18 PM] Ashwin: what chapter # is the frog one? [11/29/2015 5:37:20 PM] Avelys: Just FUCK IT [11/29/2015 5:37:21 PM] Ashwin: want to reread it [11/29/2015 5:37:21 PM] Avelys: lmao [11/29/2015 5:37:25 PM] Avelys: umm [11/29/2015 5:37:28 PM] Ryan: i think its in vol 2 [11/29/2015 5:37:36 PM] Ryan: or near the end of 1 [11/29/2015 5:37:45 PM] Vincent: 2 [11/29/2015 5:38:08 PM] Vincent: http://bato.to/reader#2852b4ac7563be74_25 [11/29/2015 5:38:28 PM] Avelys: chapter 11 [11/29/2015 5:38:39 PM] Avelys: batoto has it separated by volumes [11/29/2015 5:38:54 PM] Avelys: ashwin: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/What-a-Wonderful-World/11?id=66684 [11/29/2015 5:39:27 PM] Avelys: That guy that had a part time job [11/29/2015 5:39:33 PM] Ashwin: ye i found it haha [11/29/2015 5:39:35 PM] Avelys: And connected with the stray dog </3 [11/29/2015 5:40:15 PM] Avelys: When he thought the dog was eaten ;-; [11/29/2015 5:40:24 PM] Avelys: I really loved that page where he screamed out [11/29/2015 5:40:36 PM] Avelys: I think all of these characters need to let out their frustrations and scream. [11/29/2015 5:40:50 PM] Vincent: the stray dog seemed to be a shinigami (or related to one) though [11/29/2015 5:41:11 PM] Vincent: It felt like she was roaming the streets to comfort people who needed it [11/29/2015 5:41:13 PM] Avelys: Another thing I loved from this manga was how the age groups varied. Kind of confirmed that everybody has a shit life no matter how young (u) [11/29/2015 5:41:31 PM] Avelys: Well didn't she make that one girl brain dead [11/29/2015 5:41:40 PM] Vincent: because she wished for it [11/29/2015 5:41:42 PM] Avelys: That was kinda like :s but [11/29/2015 5:41:45 PM] Ryan: the last chapter right? [11/29/2015 5:41:52 PM] Avelys: It went with the main message [11/29/2015 5:42:04 PM] Avelys: the girl from the last chapter is the same girl that wished for it in the previous chapter [11/29/2015 5:42:13 PM] Avelys: iirc [11/29/2015 5:42:52 PM] Avelys: Since the message is how everything is constantly changing, the fact that this girl didn't want it to change ---> and the price she had to pay. IS IT WORTH IT? [11/29/2015 5:43:03 PM] Ryan: no [11/29/2015 5:43:31 PM] Avelys: It would be incredibly selfish :') [11/29/2015 5:43:33 PM] Avelys: poor boyfriend [11/29/2015 5:43:46 PM] Ashwin: the story you're talking about with the dog, was that the one where the guy got beaten up [11/29/2015 5:43:56 PM] Avelys: the dog shows up multiple times, ashwin [11/29/2015 5:43:56 PM] Ashwin: or a diff one [11/29/2015 5:44:05 PM] Avelys: the first one it appears infront of the convenience store dude [11/29/2015 5:44:12 PM] Avelys: Then the dog gets taken care of by a homeless dude [11/29/2015 5:44:13 PM] Ashwin: oh [11/29/2015 5:44:16 PM] Ashwin: yeah the homeless one [11/29/2015 5:44:17 PM] Avelys: who gets beat up [11/29/2015 5:44:21 PM] Ashwin: i thought that was the one you were talking about [11/29/2015 5:44:23 PM] Ashwin: i liked that one a lot [11/29/2015 5:44:32 PM] Vincent: I'm pretty sure it showed up before that [11/29/2015 5:44:38 PM] Vincent: the ramen guy [11/29/2015 5:44:56 PM] Vincent: and one time before that iirc [11/29/2015 5:44:59 PM] Ryan: the dog with the ramen guy? [11/29/2015 5:45:00 PM] Avelys: There's also the dad chapter where he got beat up <--- which I loved. probably my favorite. Reminded me a lot of this other mangaka. Fukumoto. Strongest Man Kurosawa [11/29/2015 5:45:20 PM] Ryan: wait how is that in kurosawa [11/29/2015 5:45:26 PM] Ashwin: did it show up in the chapter with the bullied girl that rode her bike downhill [11/29/2015 5:45:27 PM] Vincent: [Sunday, November 29, 2015 5:44 PM] Ryan: <<< the dog with the ramen guy?those 2 old people, where the brother left the ramen shop to go his own way [11/29/2015 5:45:28 PM] Ashwin: or was that a bird [11/29/2015 5:45:37 PM] Vincent: it was the bird [11/29/2015 5:45:40 PM] Ryan: that was the crow with the bike [11/29/2015 5:45:51 PM] Avelys: Homeless guy getting beat up (Shin Kurosawa the sequel) and before that, there was the fights where he got all the homeless guys to fight against the thugs [11/29/2015 5:46:01 PM] Ashwin: ah ok [11/29/2015 5:46:01 PM] Ryan: oh i know what ur talkin about [11/29/2015 5:46:08 PM] Ashwin: lol kurosawa [11/29/2015 5:46:15 PM] Avelys: Beast manga [11/29/2015 5:46:26 PM] Ryan: the other kurosawa is better [11/29/2015 5:46:26 PM] Ashwin: funny manga [11/29/2015 5:46:41 PM | Edited 5:46:47 PM] Avelys: Fukumoto x asano collab pls [11/29/2015 5:46:52 PM] Avelys: I will pay [11/29/2015 5:47:05 PM] Ryan: homeless mahjong battles [11/29/2015 5:47:06 PM] Ashwin: he like goes to the high school right after and is like "ILL FUKKEN KIK UR TEETH IN M9" to the people that beat him up [11/29/2015 5:47:08 PM] Ashwin: so great [11/29/2015 5:47:25 PM] Ashwin: what other kurosawa? onanie master? [11/29/2015 5:47:27 PM] Avelys: LOL [11/29/2015 5:47:28 PM] Avelys: no [11/29/2015 5:47:29 PM] Ryan: yup [11/29/2015 5:47:32 PM] Ashwin: yea onanie master is good [11/29/2015 5:47:35 PM] Avelys: oh [11/29/2015 5:47:36 PM] Avelys: haven't read [11/29/2015 5:47:40 PM] Ashwin: better than Fukumoto's kurosawa [11/29/2015 5:47:40 PM] Ryan: its good [11/29/2015 5:47:42 PM] Ryan: YES [11/29/2015 5:47:44 PM] Avelys: wow [11/29/2015 5:47:50 PM] Avelys: that's some pretty big shoes to fill. [11/29/2015 5:47:55 PM] Ashwin: tbh i'm not a huge fan of Fukumoto's work [11/29/2015 5:47:55 PM] Ryan: not really [11/29/2015 5:48:06 PM | Edited 5:48:12 PM] Avelys: for me at least. love FKMT [11/29/2015 5:48:11 PM] Ashwin: it's funny but i feel like there's so much padding [11/29/2015 5:48:19 PM] Ashwin: but when it's good it's really good [11/29/2015 5:48:27 PM] Ryan: the sequel is garbage too, completly unecessary [11/29/2015 5:48:31 PM] Ryan: kind of ruins the impact [11/29/2015 5:48:34 PM] Ashwin: like the end of Fukumoto's kurosawa > the end of onanie master [11/29/2015 5:48:35 PM] Avelys: hmm [11/29/2015 5:48:40 PM] Avelys: wow [11/29/2015 5:48:44 PM] Ashwin: but onanie master overall > Fukumoto's kurosawa [11/29/2015 5:48:50 PM] Avelys: ;-; [11/29/2015 5:48:54 PM] Ryan: this guy knows whats up [11/29/2015 5:48:55 PM] Ashwin: i read a few chapters of the sequel, isn't that just a gag manga? [11/29/2015 5:48:59 PM] Avelys: LOL [11/29/2015 5:49:01 PM] Ashwin: i thought it wasn't actually part of the story [11/29/2015 5:49:16 PM] Ryan: how much did you read [11/29/2015 5:49:18 PM] Ashwin: imma be really disappointed if it is [11/29/2015 5:49:21 PM] Ashwin: only like the first 2 chapters [11/29/2015 5:49:24 PM] Ryan: cause he gets out the hospital [11/29/2015 5:49:24 PM] Ashwin: not much [11/29/2015 5:49:27 PM] Ashwin: wtf [11/29/2015 5:49:29 PM] Ashwin: LOL [11/29/2015 5:49:30 PM] Avelys: anyways [11/29/2015 5:49:30 PM] Ryan: yeah [11/29/2015 5:49:33 PM] Ashwin: looooool [11/29/2015 5:49:33 PM] Avelys: back to discussion [11/29/2015 5:49:51 PM] Ashwin: abby is just mad we're shittalking Fukumoto :^ ) [11/29/2015 5:49:58 PM] Avelys: LOOOOOOOOOOOOL [11/29/2015 5:50:01 PM] Ashwin: im sori abb :( [11/29/2015 5:50:12 PM] Avelys: (cwl) [11/29/2015 5:50:22 PM] Ryan: pretty much [11/29/2015 5:50:32 PM] Ashwin: lmao but yea [11/29/2015 5:50:47 PM] Ashwin: so i feel like subarashii sekai's main "issue", i guess, it's not an issue exactly but [11/29/2015 5:50:56 PM] Ashwin: something that would probably push people away [11/29/2015 5:50:59 PM] Ashwin: is that it doesn't have much catharsis [11/29/2015 5:51:13 PM] Ashwin: like that's intentional but [11/29/2015 5:51:17 PM] Ashwin: or do you guys disagree [11/29/2015 5:51:19 PM] Ryan: i just feel like its too formulaic for me to enjoy [11/29/2015 5:51:21 PM] Avelys: like a climax? [11/29/2015 5:51:41 PM] Ashwin: not necessarily a climax, moreso concrete conclusions to the story [11/29/2015 5:51:54 PM] Avelys: I feel like it was small climaxes in each story. so it kind of excused itself [11/29/2015 5:51:57 PM] Avelys: but yeah I see what u mean [11/29/2015 5:51:57 PM] Ashwin: like there aren't many firm endings, it just kinda keeps going. so that might push people away [11/29/2015 5:52:00 PM] Ashwin: i agree [11/29/2015 5:52:00 PM] Sloth™: climax, lol that girl with the vibrator in her purse in the bear chapter (rofl) [11/29/2015 5:52:08 PM] Ryan: lol [11/29/2015 5:52:09 PM] Avelys: lol [11/29/2015 5:52:29 PM] Ashwin: also what did you find formulaic about it DTB? i kind of agree with you but just want to hear your thoughts [11/29/2015 5:53:17 PM] Ryan: [Sunday, November 29, 2015 5:05 PM] Ryan: <<< i think it got kinda redundant though cause most of the chapters started with the characters feeling all gloomy than they get into a life-altering situation and they gain a new perspective on life. i could have sworn more than 5 chapters used that formula and i got pretty bored. [11/29/2015 5:54:04 PM] Ashwin: ye [11/29/2015 5:54:34 PM] Ryan: idk i loved punpun, solanin and holograph but i wasnt feeling this one [11/29/2015 5:55:25 PM] Koen: happens [11/29/2015 5:55:26 PM] Ashwin: interesting, i loved punpun holograph and this whereas solanin was a little disappointing in comparison. but yeah i agree, subasekai is formulaic [11/29/2015 5:55:28 PM] Ashwin: in that sense [11/29/2015 5:55:34 PM] Ryan: yeah [11/29/2015 5:55:44 PM] Ashwin: but i really liked how genuine and natural each story felt [11/29/2015 5:55:49 PM] Ryan: i'll def give it another read to see if my viewpoints change [11/29/2015 5:56:11 PM] Ashwin: i didn't really notice it was formulaic until after i finished it and thought about it [11/29/2015 5:56:20 PM] Ashwin: just cause each story was so compelling on its own [11/29/2015 5:56:30 PM] Ashwin: if that makes sense [11/29/2015 5:56:40 PM] Vincent: that girl from the last chapter was even in the first volume [11/29/2015 5:56:40 PM] Ryan: i started to notice the pattern after awhile [11/29/2015 5:57:13 PM] Sloth™: i liked that last huge double page of the cherry tree :3 [11/29/2015 5:57:30 PM] Ryan: that was a great shot [11/29/2015 5:58:15 PM] Avelys: i didn't really notice it was formulaic until after i finished it and thought about it just cause each story was so compelling on its own if that makes senseI think it had to have some similarities for it not feel chaotic. Like a ground to walk on while you observe all these stories. [11/29/2015 5:58:44 PM] Ashwin: well more referring to the "epiphany" part [11/29/2015 5:58:49 PM] Avelys: So the main similarities was how it focused on each character's cathartic moment [11/29/2015 5:59:05 PM] Ashwin: because yeah the premise of the story is that it's about a bunch of characters confused about life [11/29/2015 5:59:10 PM] Ashwin: so that part isn't really formulaic [11/29/2015 5:59:13 PM] Avelys: But I think it's interesting how they all have this epiphany, and we see it, but they probably won't change. [11/29/2015 5:59:16 PM] Ashwin: it's more the cathartic moments [11/29/2015 5:59:21 PM] Ashwin: yeah no i agree [11/29/2015 5:59:39 PM] Ashwin: that's part of what i found compelling, is that they're still pretty much the same after the "catharsis" [11/29/2015 5:59:50 PM] Ashwin: which is why i don't really think there's any catharsis in this manga [11/29/2015 5:59:59 PM] Ashwin: not in the typical sense anyway [11/29/2015 6:00:21 PM] Avelys: So despite them all going through it .... over and over again..., they will keep having these realizations but never really doing anything about it. Which kind of makes those stories (like the dad) where they TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES to fight to change, to not feel like trash--that's the most cathartic for me. Like that chapter alone satisfied me. [11/29/2015 6:00:42 PM] Ashwin: yeah [11/29/2015 6:00:53 PM] Ashwin: i need to reread this [11/29/2015 6:00:57 PM] Avelys: but #lifegoeson and it will remain doing so [11/29/2015 6:01:03 PM] Ashwin: i'm rereading a few chapters, makes me appreciate how solid this manga is [11/29/2015 6:01:15 PM] Avelys: so for the way the message was conveyed, I think it did an excellent job ^,^ [11/29/2015 6:01:23 PM] Ashwin: totes agree fam [11/29/2015 6:01:23 PM] Avelys: more than solanin [11/29/2015 6:01:28 PM] Ryan: never [11/29/2015 6:01:32 PM] Ashwin: fam u on point there [11/29/2015 6:01:38 PM] Ashwin: i'm surprised though [11/29/2015 6:01:38 PM] Avelys: fite me in rl, scrub [11/29/2015 6:01:41 PM] Ashwin: i thought you loved soranin [11/29/2015 6:01:43 PM] Ryan: i will [11/29/2015 6:01:45 PM] Ashwin: or is that jas [11/29/2015 6:01:51 PM] Avelys: yeah jasmine wrote a review [11/29/2015 6:01:53 PM] Ashwin: i mix you guys up sometimes [11/29/2015 6:01:55 PM] Ashwin: ohh ok [11/29/2015 6:01:56 PM] Avelys: wow [11/29/2015 6:02:05 PM] Avelys: thanks, I think [11/29/2015 6:02:08 PM] Avelys: since we're the same person [11/29/2015 6:02:13 PM] Ryan: wtf [11/29/2015 6:02:57 PM] Avelys: Have all of u read all his works? [11/29/2015 6:03:11 PM] Ashwin: almost all [11/29/2015 6:03:17 PM] Ashwin: still have to read city of light [11/29/2015 6:03:19 PM] Ashwin: and umm [11/29/2015 6:03:22 PM] Ashwin: dededededestruction [11/29/2015 6:03:26 PM] Avelys: How would you compare them all (and rank?) [11/29/2015 6:03:28 PM] Ryan: read punpun, solanin, holograph, this and that one-short hero [11/29/2015 6:03:39 PM] Ryan: one shot [11/29/2015 6:03:42 PM] Ashwin: uhh one sec [11/29/2015 6:03:46 PM] Ashwin: lemme bring up a list for reference lol [11/29/2015 6:04:14 PM] Ashwin: oh i don't think I've read this either [11/29/2015 6:04:14 PM] Ashwin: http://myanimelist.net/manga/91757/Bakemono_Recchan [11/29/2015 6:04:17 PM] Ashwin: haven't even heard of it [11/29/2015 6:04:29 PM] Ryan: i never heard this either [11/29/2015 6:04:35 PM] Ashwin: haven't read ozanari-kun either, tried to find it but no luck [11/29/2015 6:04:52 PM] Ashwin: and haven't read himawari but i think that's a one-shot extra chapter for solanin [11/29/2015 6:04:54 PM] Ashwin: so in order [11/29/2015 6:04:59 PM] Ashwin: i'd rank the ones I've read as [11/29/2015 6:06:07 PM] Ashwin: punpun > nijigahara > subasekai > solanin > sekai no owari > hero > girl by the sea > himawari [11/29/2015 6:06:23 PM] Avelys: Nijigahara <3 <3 <3 <3 [11/29/2015 6:06:45 PM] Ashwin: oh oops i meant i haven't read haru yo koi, not himawari. I've read that one. [11/29/2015 6:06:52 PM] Avelys: same, minus the ones I haven't read: [Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:06 PM] Ashwin: << nijigahara > subasekai > solanin >[Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:06 PM] Ashwin: <<< girl by the sea [11/29/2015 6:07:31 PM] Avelys: Did you guys liked his art style? I feel like it's definitely improved in PunPun [11/29/2015 6:07:41 PM] Ashwin: yo random but have we done an ai yazawa or fuyumi souryo manga here yet [11/29/2015 6:07:45 PM] Avelys: the art was good but nothing that blows me away like his other works. [11/29/2015 6:07:49 PM] Ashwin: i love his art in every manga he's done [11/29/2015 6:07:55 PM] Avelys: Yeah we read Last Quarter [11/29/2015 6:07:58 PM] Ryan: one of the best artists [more derailment of discussion...] |
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