[4:59:29 PM] Koen: we can start I guess
[4:59:41 PM] Vincent: but i'm at ch. 5 now
[5:00:06 PM] Sloth™: my thoughts on this manga, it was weird, noko was a dumbass, then end
[5:00:07 PM] Sloth™: :d
[5:00:24 PM] Jeni: and her bf was a jerk
[5:00:27 PM] Vincent: (don't wait for me, I'm not sure if I'll fully read it :X)
[5:00:40 PM] Ashwin: ye the characters were all over the place
[5:00:42 PM] Vincent: unless it changes a lot like helter skelter did
[5:00:43 PM] Ryan: [5:00 PM] Sloth™:
<<< noko was a dumbass
[5:00:47 PM] Koen: her bf was rude she was dense, women was an ass
[5:00:48 PM] Avelys: mfao
[5:00:49 PM] Avelys: lmfao
[5:00:50 PM] Ashwin: there was not much consistency in the character writing
[5:01:24 PM] Avelys: i really liked how it explored the mc though, although she wasn't likable and she frustrated me, at least i could understand her
[5:01:31 PM] Sloth™: dem bug eyes near the end scared the shit outta me :d
[5:01:35 PM] Avelys: i also like that it focused on the perspective of the other characters
[5:01:45 PM] Ashwin: that's the strength of the manga i think. it explores the theme really well
[5:01:45 PM] Ryan: main character was a complete dumbass
[5:01:46 PM] Avelys: i do feel like it felt lacking
[5:01:58 PM] Avelys: i wanted more from all the characters
[5:02:11 PM] Avelys: we got a little backstory but it wasn't enough to explore WHY
[5:02:15 PM] Koen: I didn't
[5:02:16 PM] Avelys: made me sad
[5:02:17 PM] Ryan: did they ever explain how that old guy got the money?
[5:02:24 PM] Koen: old guy was rich
[5:02:26 PM] Avelys: he's rich
[5:02:31 PM] Koen: owner of a company
[5:02:33 PM] Jeni: owned a company
[5:02:37 PM] Koen: could bankrupt the skinny making company
[5:03:01 PM] Ryan: he could had more screentime since he seemed to be the only one to care for mc
[5:03:10 PM] Koen: oh no
[5:03:16 PM] Koen: none of them cared about her personally
[5:03:23 PM] Koen: all about was she fat was she not
[5:03:32 PM] Avelys: although the ending felt anti climactic a little for me, i felt like it made sense. some people never get off this perpetuating cycle. and she doesn't even realize what her real problem is so she'll never be happy.
[5:03:37 PM] Ashwin: ^
[5:03:38 PM] Koen: like bf office lady and company dude wanted her to be fat
[5:03:45 PM] Avelys: no he didn't care for her, he just had a fetish
[5:03:56 PM] Jeni: yeah
[5:04:21 PM] Avelys: not even her co-worker, i felt, cared for her truly
[5:04:27 PM] Avelys: just wanted to use her for her revenge
[5:04:45 PM] Avelys: the one that wanted to destroy the pretty girl?
[5:05:08 PM] Sloth™: Tatasomething or whatever
[5:05:16 PM] Koen: yup
[5:05:17 PM] Koen: definitely
[5:05:35 PM] Avelys: everybody felt inferior to one another which was interesting
[5:05:58 PM] Avelys: i concur that the bf had really huge issues
[5:06:02 PM] Avelys: like
[5:06:03 PM] Avelys: w
[5:06:03 PM] Jeni: that's a good point, Abby
[5:06:03 PM] Avelys: t
[5:06:03 PM] Avelys: f
[5:06:07 PM] Avelys: forcing her to eat
[5:06:12 PM] Avelys: i don't think he's right on the head
[5:06:17 PM] Ashwin: none of them are
[5:06:22 PM] Avelys: ^
[5:06:23 PM] Ryan: fat shaming
[5:06:28 PM] Avelys: but ESPECIALLY the bf
[5:06:32 PM] Ashwin: moyoco anno went really overboard with making everyone fucked up tbh
[5:06:48 PM] Avelys: yeah it did feel like an imitation of Helter
[5:06:50 PM] Ryan: yeah it ended up feeling kinda absurd
[5:06:54 PM] Avelys: Especially the mean bitch
[5:06:59 PM] Ashwin: MC was the only character who was believably fucked because of her image issues
[5:07:12 PM] Ashwin: everyone else just felt exaggerated to emphasize how bad we should feel for MC
[5:07:38 PM] Ashwin: ya helter skelter was such a clear and obvious influence lol
[5:07:44 PM] Ashwin: so many of the same elements
[5:07:51 PM] Avelys: i was scared the clinic was going to be this shady place
[5:07:52 PM] Avelys: ngl
[5:07:55 PM] Ashwin: lool
[5:08:11 PM] Sloth™: that doctor lady was the nicest person in the series
[5:08:36 PM] Avelys: she should've noticed her bulimia tho
[5:08:42 PM] Avelys: probably sent her to a psychiatrist :s
[5:08:42 PM] Sloth™: she did
[5:08:47 PM] Jeni: she did, right?
[5:08:54 PM] Avelys: she suspected it
[5:08:57 PM | Edited 5:09:00 PM] Sloth™: was talking with that other person about it
[5:08:57 PM] Avelys: but she never like
[5:08:57 PM] Jeni: she was going to confront her the next time
[5:08:59 PM] Avelys: did anything about it
[5:09:28 PM] Koen: she noticed the session beofre
[5:09:35 PM] Koen: wondered and was planning on telling her next time
[5:09:39 PM] Koen: she is not to blame
[5:10:40 PM] Avelys: that's cool that they met again in the end
[5:10:48 PM] Jeni: yeah
[5:11:09 PM] Avelys: i was expecting some story like
[5:11:16 PM] Avelys: OH HAD TO CLOSE DOWN BC MALPRACTICE LEL
[5:11:27 PM] Avelys: can't believe that old man tho x)
[5:11:37 PM] Koen: evil old man
[5:11:40 PM] Koen: how did she do malpractice
[5:11:50 PM] Avelys: she didnt
[5:12:08 PM] Sloth™: that place was super overcosted :d
[5:12:10 PM] Avelys: but Helter Skelter had that and since it was an influence i was worried
[5:12:13 PM] Sloth™: thats some malpractice there :d
[5:12:23 PM] Avelys: nah, that stuff is expensive
[5:12:28 PM] Avelys: especially since it's like ASAP weight loss
[5:15:31 PM] Avelys: Did you guys like anything at all in the manga?
[5:15:43 PM] Ryan: nope it was shit
[5:15:50 PM] Jeni: not really
[5:15:52 PM] Ryan: shot myself in my eye reading it
[5:15:57 PM] Jeni: wow
[5:16:01 PM] Koen: not really :S
[5:16:02 PM] Avelys: I didn't think it was that bad :/
[5:16:08 PM] Koen: I liked the name :D
[5:16:13 PM] Sloth™: nope it was horrid
[5:16:18 PM] Avelys: I loved the themes it presented and the first few chapters were interesting
[5:16:21 PM] Sloth™: i'd give it a 2/10 the art was ok :d
[5:16:35 PM] Vincent: Poor Abby
[5:16:42 PM] Avelys: GRanted i think it could've been better but i think there should be more manga like this. Tackling these issues. So i appreciate what it's trying to do
[5:16:52 PM] Ryan: im jk I liked what the manga did with its subject matter and the breakdown of the MC but there was alot of stupid shit with the other characters and things felt too exaggerated and over the top
[5:16:58 PM] Ryan: also the art was alright
[5:17:17 PM] Ryan: i liked helter skelter mor
[5:17:23 PM] Avelys: ^
[5:23:44 PM] Ashwin: i think it explored weight and image issue sorta well but other than that
[5:23:48 PM] Ashwin: nothing much
[5:24:15 PM] Ashwin: i agree with abby though. would rather see manga like these than
[5:24:19 PM] Ashwin: shirayuki hime :^ )
[5:24:23 PM] Avelys: leeel
[5:24:26 PM] Ryan: flamed
[5:24:29 PM] Ashwin: or lucky star :^ )
[5:24:36 PM] Avelys: wtf i haven't even read shirayuki ok gtfo
[5:24:42 PM] Avelys: Kare Kano best mango
[5:24:47 PM] Ryan: no
[5:24:56 PM] Avelys: shoujo*
[5:25:00 PM] Ashwin: i only read like 6 chapters of kare kano unfortunately
[5:25:04 PM] Ashwin: so i can't flame you there
[5:25:06 PM] Avelys: i know why
[5:25:10 PM] Avelys: u didn't finish
[5:25:13 PM] Avelys: u hate me </3
[5:25:18 PM] Ashwin: im sori :[
[5:25:29 PM] Avelys: and u haven't watched legends either so
[5:25:34 PM] Ashwin: looool
[5:25:35 PM] Avelys: clearly this vendetta is not in my head
[5:25:38 PM] Ashwin: lmao logh
[5:25:45 PM] Ashwin: i watched the entire first season though
[5:25:51 PM] Ashwin: right up until you know what happened
[5:25:56 PM] Ryan: who refers to lotgh as legends
[5:25:57 PM] Avelys: it gets better
[5:26:00 PM] Avelys: i do
[5:26:03 PM] Avelys: get with the times
[5:26:18 PM] Ashwin: "it gets better after the first 20 episodes" - every long shounen
[5:26:25 PM] Sloth™: legends of the galactic heroes?
[5:26:27 PM] Ashwin: :^ ) i'm jp i'm trolling you
[5:26:31 PM] Avelys: TONIKAKU
[5:26:31 PM] Ashwin: logh is pretty good
[5:26:32 PM] Avelys: ANYWAYS
[5:26:39 PM] Ryan: yeah i dropped lotgh after 30 eps was shit
[5:26:42 PM] Sloth™: i've not wtached logh :o
[5:26:43 PM] Avelys: i think that wraps up discussion right
