Inuyashiki
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Oct 15, 2017 11:13 AM
#1
| Since there is now an anime, and more people are getting interested, I thought it would be a good time to just say whats on my mind. I loved the manga, and I still loved the ending. I read Inuyashiki before watching the anime, quick and easy read, binge read over two days. The whole time I found the story captivating, and while some aspects were a little predictable still good. SPOILERS: So at the end of the manga there is the meteor about to crash on earth, and Inuyashi and Hiro are up on the meteor. They don't have a final fight. Hiro blows himself up to save earth. And for some reason, everybody hates this ending. I thought the ending was very fitting of the series and the characters, Hiro constantly had a back and forth between good and evil, only really being truly evil when he was cornered. When he saw his chance to protect the people he loved, he took it. I think that reading this all in one go might have solved some problems people had with the manga, particularly the pacing. The chapters were short so when binge reading it all felt like it flowed one to the next instead of what people have complained about. Also reading this all at once made the foreshadowing about the meteor so much clearer, it was actually brought up many times and was not sudden at all. Most of all, I think Hiro's character is shown as always fighting himself. He truly wants to be a good guy and stop what he is doing, but whenever he tries its like fate goes against him. I think that his final actions really embody who he is. But that's just me and this is a forum post, opinions? Fight me |
Oct 15, 2017 11:36 AM
#2
| I agree, I don’t get why People disliked the ending. I thought it was a fitting ending to such a great manga. |
Oct 15, 2017 11:40 AM
#3
| Shishigami was never allowed to actually protect someone without murdering before. The ending is of a piece with the whole story and it's definitely not incongruous to Oku's writing. He had nothing to gain psychologically from fighting Inuyashiki on the meteor. |
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Oct 15, 2017 2:39 PM
#4
| I liked the ending as well as it fits the story better than if neither died. The manga was really good, I just hope they don't censor anything like that weird Trump appearance lol. |
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Oct 15, 2017 4:09 PM
#5
| I felt the ending was lukewarm, but that isn't because there wasn't a grandiose showdown on the meteor, but the fact it existed in the first place. Its as much of a deus-ex-machina as the aliens were in the beginning, but... i guess the only reason that doesn't bother me so much was that it was foreshadowed far enough back. Other than that, I kind of wish that there was a little less focus on Shishigami and a bit more on Inuyashiki. Honestly the anime did a pretty good job adapting the first volume, If they wished to fix some of the pacing issues and change a few minor details here and there, this might end up being better than the manga. The ending will probably be polarizing regardless though. |
Oct 15, 2017 5:33 PM
#6
| The problem is not the ending..it is just how it was placed. I mean you had a climatic showdown between two cyborgs that left the city in ruins and both of them did not die from it and than just a few days later a giant meteor shows up and that is both die to save the world. it just felt so out of place. I feel like the author intended for a more intense fight a bit later in the story but he had to cut it short. that is the problem i have with the ending. |
Oct 15, 2017 6:08 PM
#7
-ShadowClaw- said: The problem is not the ending..it is just how it was placed. I mean you had a climatic showdown between two cyborgs that left the city in ruins and both of them did not die from it and than just a few days later a giant meteor shows up and that is both die to save the world. it just felt so out of place. I feel like the author intended for a more intense fight a bit later in the story but he had to cut it short. that is the problem i have with the ending. Reading the manga basically all at once made me feel differently. The author was constantly foreshadowing this meteor. At one point a character even said "whats more important Shishigami or all of humanity?" For me it was clear that the meteor would be involved in the ending. I do agree that it felt like it was cut short though. I could have done with one more chapter. |
Oct 15, 2017 6:14 PM
#8
FontSize72LOL said: I felt the ending was lukewarm, but that isn't because there wasn't a grandiose showdown on the meteor, but the fact it existed in the first place. Its as much of a deus-ex-machina as the aliens were in the beginning, but... i guess the only reason that doesn't bother me so much was that it was foreshadowed far enough back. Other than that, I kind of wish that there was a little less focus on Shishigami and a bit more on Inuyashiki. Honestly the anime did a pretty good job adapting the first volume, If they wished to fix some of the pacing issues and change a few minor details here and there, this might end up being better than the manga. The ending will probably be polarizing regardless though. I can understand where you are coming from with the ending being lukewarm, but Hiro didn't actually want to fight did he? That's one of the reasons he flew away from Andou's house. Even between constantly killing people he would consider saving people because of Shion etc... So I always felt that a final showdown situation was unlikely. I actually thought that Inuyashiki would end up helping Hiro with the whole police situation. |
Oct 15, 2017 7:47 PM
#9
bibi-fan said: FontSize72LOL said: I felt the ending was lukewarm, but that isn't because there wasn't a grandiose showdown on the meteor, but the fact it existed in the first place. Its as much of a deus-ex-machina as the aliens were in the beginning, but... i guess the only reason that doesn't bother me so much was that it was foreshadowed far enough back. Other than that, I kind of wish that there was a little less focus on Shishigami and a bit more on Inuyashiki. Honestly the anime did a pretty good job adapting the first volume, If they wished to fix some of the pacing issues and change a few minor details here and there, this might end up being better than the manga. The ending will probably be polarizing regardless though. I can understand where you are coming from with the ending being lukewarm, but Hiro didn't actually want to fight did he? That's one of the reasons he flew away from Andou's house. Even between constantly killing people he would consider saving people because of Shion etc... So I always felt that a final showdown situation was unlikely. I actually thought that Inuyashiki would end up helping Hiro with the whole police situation. I wasn't really pushing my opinion that there should have been a final showdown, but thats kind of the vibe they were putting off. The meteor just felt like an excuse to end the story early, not to say that it wasn't well executed for what it was, It is what it is. |
Oct 16, 2017 1:01 AM
#10
| I bet you 100 bucks if the manga's story line (ending) was anime original you wouldn't be saying that. |
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Oct 16, 2017 11:17 AM
#11
mehmehperson said: I bet you 100 bucks if the manga's story line (ending) was anime original you wouldn't be saying that. I don't really get what you're trying to say. That I wouldn't like this ending if there was already a well developed separate one in the manga? I mean I guess? If the manga had a different ending though I feel like it would have told its story differently than it does. |
Oct 16, 2017 11:18 AM
#12
| There is nothing to fight, only the pity. |
Oct 19, 2017 7:55 PM
#13
Oct 20, 2017 1:04 PM
#14
| I felt like the story was building up to something and then a meteor showed up and it ended. Maybe it's just me, but I would have liked to see more of Inuyashiki and his family coming together. They did understand his value at the end, but it would have been nice if it was fleshed out a bit more before his death. FontSize72LOL said: I felt the ending was lukewarm, but that isn't because there wasn't a grandiose showdown on the meteor, but the fact it existed in the first place. Its as much of a deus-ex-machina as the aliens were in the beginning, but... i guess the only reason that doesn't bother me so much was that it was foreshadowed far enough back. Other than that, I kind of wish that there was a little less focus on Shishigami and a bit more on Inuyashiki. Honestly the anime did a pretty good job adapting the first volume, If they wished to fix some of the pacing issues and change a few minor details here and there, this might end up being better than the manga. The ending will probably be polarizing regardless though. Can you provide examples for it being foreshadowed? |
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Oct 20, 2017 8:51 PM
#15
| Would another fight have even made sense? I do follow the idea that more could have come from Inuyashiki and Shishigami's spheres of influence but I don't know if Oku had anything more to say. |
Oct 21, 2017 5:12 PM
#16
MonoJuMal said: I felt like the story was building up to something and then a meteor showed up and it ended. Maybe it's just me, but I would have liked to see more of Inuyashiki and his family coming together. They did understand his value at the end, but it would have been nice if it was fleshed out a bit more before his death. FontSize72LOL said: I felt the ending was lukewarm, but that isn't because there wasn't a grandiose showdown on the meteor, but the fact it existed in the first place. Its as much of a deus-ex-machina as the aliens were in the beginning, but... i guess the only reason that doesn't bother me so much was that it was foreshadowed far enough back. Other than that, I kind of wish that there was a little less focus on Shishigami and a bit more on Inuyashiki. Honestly the anime did a pretty good job adapting the first volume, If they wished to fix some of the pacing issues and change a few minor details here and there, this might end up being better than the manga. The ending will probably be polarizing regardless though. Can you provide examples for it being foreshadowed? Yeah, I can. I would have to re-read the whole entire manga to be sure but, I'm pretty sure chapter 46 page 15 is the first mention of the meteor. Some kids in the class ask if they checked the news, tell us there is a meteor, then say Americans will probably take care of it, and point out how the whole shishigami thing has been staged up by it. In another moment they mention how all of hummanity should be more important than the shishigami thing. Since its mentioned at the halfway point of the series I think that it had enough foreshadowing effect and was not "sudden" how some people describe. |
Oct 21, 2017 8:25 PM
#17
bibi-fan said: MonoJuMal said: I felt like the story was building up to something and then a meteor showed up and it ended. Maybe it's just me, but I would have liked to see more of Inuyashiki and his family coming together. They did understand his value at the end, but it would have been nice if it was fleshed out a bit more before his death. FontSize72LOL said: I felt the ending was lukewarm, but that isn't because there wasn't a grandiose showdown on the meteor, but the fact it existed in the first place. Its as much of a deus-ex-machina as the aliens were in the beginning, but... i guess the only reason that doesn't bother me so much was that it was foreshadowed far enough back. Other than that, I kind of wish that there was a little less focus on Shishigami and a bit more on Inuyashiki. Honestly the anime did a pretty good job adapting the first volume, If they wished to fix some of the pacing issues and change a few minor details here and there, this might end up being better than the manga. The ending will probably be polarizing regardless though. Can you provide examples for it being foreshadowed? Yeah, I can. I would have to re-read the whole entire manga to be sure but, I'm pretty sure chapter 46 page 15 is the first mention of the meteor. Some kids in the class ask if they checked the news, tell us there is a meteor, then say Americans will probably take care of it, and point out how the whole shishigami thing has been staged up by it. In another moment they mention how all of hummanity should be more important than the shishigami thing. Since its mentioned at the halfway point of the series I think that it had enough foreshadowing effect and was not "sudden" how some people describe. @MonoJuMal Yeah, That was exactly the scene I was talking about. I forgot where exactly it was, but that sounds about right. I didn't want to dig up the manga to find the exact spot. 20+ chapters is more than enough foreshadowing for events in a manga thats only 85 chapters long. Albiet, I guess i can understand why people wouldn't have picked up on it. I didn't immediately pick up on it but when it happened, i was like "Yeah, now that you mention it, I suppose this didn't come out of nowhere" That scene was probably Oku's way of leaving himself an out, which he ended up taking later on in the story. |
Oct 21, 2017 8:31 PM
#18
| I stopped reading manga when my fave manga ended. When I finally decided to read again,I first read Inu Yashiki. It's the one manga that pulled me back into reading. It's really great..I enjoyed it. No words are enough.. |
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Oct 22, 2017 5:46 AM
#19
bibi-fan said: Yeah, I can. I would have to re-read the whole entire manga to be sure but, I'm pretty sure chapter 46 page 15 is the first mention of the meteor. Some kids in the class ask if they checked the news, tell us there is a meteor, then say Americans will probably take care of it, and point out how the whole shishigami thing has been staged up by it. In another moment they mention how all of hummanity should be more important than the shishigami thing. Since its mentioned at the halfway point of the series I think that it had enough foreshadowing effect and was not "sudden" how some people describe. FontSize72LOL said: @MonoJuMal Yeah, That was exactly the scene I was talking about. I forgot where exactly it was, but that sounds about right. I didn't want to dig up the manga to find the exact spot. 20+ chapters is more than enough foreshadowing for events in a manga thats only 85 chapters long. Albiet, I guess i can understand why people wouldn't have picked up on it. I didn't immediately pick up on it but when it happened, i was like "Yeah, now that you mention it, I suppose this didn't come out of nowhere" That scene was probably Oku's way of leaving himself an out, which he ended up taking later on in the story. Ah! I remember that part too. I suppose that was enough of a foreshadow, but it still seemed like there was a lot of build up to something and then a meteor just showed up. |
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Oct 22, 2017 10:32 AM
#20
archimagik said: I stopped reading manga when my fave manga ended. When I finally decided to read again,I first read Inu Yashiki. It's the one manga that pulled me back into reading. It's really great..I enjoyed it. No words are enough.. I'm glas that you enjoyed it as much as I did. MonoJuMal said: bibi-fan said: Yeah, I can. I would have to re-read the whole entire manga to be sure but, I'm pretty sure chapter 46 page 15 is the first mention of the meteor. Some kids in the class ask if they checked the news, tell us there is a meteor, then say Americans will probably take care of it, and point out how the whole shishigami thing has been staged up by it. In another moment they mention how all of hummanity should be more important than the shishigami thing. Since its mentioned at the halfway point of the series I think that it had enough foreshadowing effect and was not "sudden" how some people describe. FontSize72LOL said: @MonoJuMal Yeah, That was exactly the scene I was talking about. I forgot where exactly it was, but that sounds about right. I didn't want to dig up the manga to find the exact spot. 20+ chapters is more than enough foreshadowing for events in a manga thats only 85 chapters long. Albiet, I guess i can understand why people wouldn't have picked up on it. I didn't immediately pick up on it but when it happened, i was like "Yeah, now that you mention it, I suppose this didn't come out of nowhere" That scene was probably Oku's way of leaving himself an out, which he ended up taking later on in the story. Ah! I remember that part too. I suppose that was enough of a foreshadow, but it still seemed like there was a lot of build up to something and then a meteor just showed up. I think the main thing that justifies the use of the meteor is not really even the foreshadowing but how the characters act. Even though they are hero and villain, they are deeper than that and don't act perfectly as a hero or villain. It is much more human showdown wouldn't really show the humanness of their character. The meteor had no real pizzazz but showed what they thought as people. |
Oct 23, 2017 4:12 AM
#21
| Overall, I enjoyed the manga too the ending didn't bother me. Hiro constantly had a back and forth between good and evil, only really being truly evil when he was cornered. Hiro was going around killing people before the manga even showed the murder of that family. He wasn't even cornered when he was killing people randomly. In fact, I would say that because he was cornered it lead to him caring about others. Having to rely on his classmate and her grandmother and sacrificing himself so they could live. I think Hiro's character is shown as always fighting himself. He truly wants to be a good guy and stop what he is doing, but whenever he tries its like fate goes against him. I disagree with this part. He said "When people he doesn't know dies he doesn't feel sad cause it's not his friend or family". He's only good to people he knows like Ando. So that would make him about average I think, morality wise (This is before his killing spree of course). The way I interpreted it was that he was a foil to Inuyashiki. Inuyashiki felt alive and human when saving people and Hiro felt that through killing. Off topic I felt so terrible for Ando, he loses his best friend Hiro and Inuyashiki (father figure?) at the end of the series. 。゚・(>﹏<)・゚。 |
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