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Apr 24, 2020 10:23 AM
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Season 1 was pretty average and looks like many people hated it. So anyone looking forward to s2?
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Apr 24, 2020 9:09 PM
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why in the fuck would we need a second season to such a monstrosity?
Apr 25, 2020 4:05 AM
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I am once again convinced that even the greatest will fall and die sometime.
Look at what happened to Berserk
Look at what happened to the Assassin's Creed franchise
Look at anything EA touched.
Look at Boruto Filler Generations (Where fillers come to life)
Look at the convoluted bullshit in the Kingdom Hearts franchise...

everything rots and dies.
Nurgle's decay is real.
Apr 25, 2020 4:25 PM
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Not looking forward to it.
Apr 26, 2020 3:57 AM
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This is not a second season, this is the second half.
They always intended for it to be 24 episodes long,
I find it stupid that for whatever reason this is considered as another season.

Apr 26, 2020 7:00 AM
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I'm curious to see how it ends even though I don't like where the plot's going
garyborken said:
This is not a second season, this is the second half.
They always intended for it to be 24 episodes long,
I find it stupid that for whatever reason this is considered as another season.



That's a problem with netflix anime. Some netflix "second seasons" have separate mal entries while others don't.
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Apr 26, 2020 7:07 AM
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Sure, the story wasn't terrible once they actually got to it. Not very Ghost in the Shell, but not terrible. Maybe the second half can fix a few things. Here's hoping they listen to feedback (even though it's likely already finished being made and is too late to change)
Apr 28, 2020 9:19 AM
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I actually liked the show. The music was somehow really good, wanted to look like some Yoko Kanno work (not the OP, which I also enjoyed) and the animation, even if it was completely 3D, was nice and smooth. Some scenes were awkward but I think 3D was another step in the Ghost in the Shell franchise.
Apr 29, 2020 12:42 PM
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I'd give it a watch out of curiosity. Overall I thought the first 12 episodes (because yes it is 1 season split into 2 for some reason) were fine. To quote Cherbonyl chief-engineer Anatoly Dyatlov "Not great, not terrible". It was watchable and mostly enjoyable if you have an interest and aren't too elitist.

It is lacking a certain human quality to it that was present in the S.A.C season 1 and 2, and the attempts to make up for that feel very over dramatic and false.
Apr 29, 2020 2:08 PM

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I'll try to watch it in one sitting, just wanna get over it, the first episodes were trash
May 9, 2020 6:24 AM

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I am curious about Togusa and that 14 year old posthuman.

Don't talk to me about character development if Kaizuka Inaho or Slaine Troyard are in your favorites.
May 15, 2020 6:14 PM

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I think I’m one of the few that really enjoyed the first half. Sure, I agree with the criticism about the CGI animation. That’s the only thing about this series that I hated.

I really wish the season didn’t go that route, but I thought the series was getting better as it dived more into the posthuman stuff, especially with Takashi (the junior high kid).

Maybe I’m just an optimist, but I think the second half is setting up quite nicely.
May 25, 2020 9:15 AM
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After a cliffhanger like that? Hell yeah. It's a shame this anime got buried under so much hate. Some GITS fans might pass it up thinking it's not worth their time, which I think would be a mistake. It's a worthy sequel to SAC.
May 29, 2020 1:50 PM

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totally hyped for it after that cliff hanger. I really don´t get the hate this series have received, it might not be a perfect 10 like the first gits movie but its very good, the animation looks pretty nice also
Jun 9, 2020 5:28 AM
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I'm on episode 9 of the first season and I've really enjoyed it so far. It's at a similar level of quality, and writing, to the first two GITS seasons IMO - i.e. intelligent and thought-provoking. The 3D animation takes a bit of getting used to, but once you do, the story is really captivating and thrilling, and there are some great interactions between the team, and many humorous moments. That episode with Batou caught in the midst of a bank robbery and then helping out the senior citizens, was hilarious and also moving. I'm watching it dubbed, and all the main VA's from the classic installments have returned. I feel it's WAY underrated, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and will see and react to things in their own unique and subjective way. That's what this site is all about! GITS is still one of the best anime franchises - as far as I'm concerned :)



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Jun 26, 2020 1:41 AM
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Personally I'm actually happy to see more attempts to get 3D to work well. Can't say that I am a fan of any of the new characters, though. They feel like TVTropes pages congealed into characters. Purin in particular felt more like a character meant to sell body pillows than move the plot forward. We have how many people at Section 9 already that get barely any screen time this time around, and yet the new girl gets almost an entire episode to herself?

I'll absolutely agree that the first third or so is really rough and feels unfocused as hell, but once the focus moves to the post-humans, the story seems to hit its stride. It's a 6-7/10 sequel to a 9-10/10, further hampered by Netflix being, well, Netflix. I'd love to see the second half wrap up the post-human arc and then move back into addressing this sustainable war head on, rather than as a general backdrop piece.
Aug 9, 2020 1:45 AM
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I loved the adaptation.
Why ?

Because they are putting in money to keep Gits alive so i don't want to complain and enjoy what i got. If they don't make shows like these, Gits will die and i would hate to see that.

Even if it was nothing compared to original, it was still better than other main stream anime.

YES, I AM HYPED

Oct 15, 2020 1:41 AM
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I guess I’m the odd man out. I enjoyed the first half quite a bit. I cannot wait for the rest to come out
Nov 13, 2020 3:37 AM

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Yugesai said:
I am once again convinced that even the greatest will fall and die sometime.
Look at what happened to Berserk
Look at what happened to the Assassin's Creed franchise
Look at anything EA touched.
Look at Boruto Filler Generations (Where fillers come to life)
Look at the convoluted bullshit in the Kingdom Hearts franchise...

everything rots and dies.
Nurgle's decay is real.

Nothing happened to Berserk - the manga is doing fine, the original anime is doing fine, the OVAs are doing fine - the latest anime was bad but didn't ruin the franchise by any measure.
Nothing happened to Assassin's Creed - that was the problem, and then they overcorrected.
I'm sure fillers are the least of Boruto's problems.

nekkoMaster said:
I loved the adaptation.
Why ?

Because they are putting in money to keep Gits alive so i don't want to complain and enjoy what i got. If they don't make shows like these, Gits will die and i would hate to see that.

Even if it was nothing compared to original, it was still better than other main stream anime.

YES, I AM HYPED


Funny stance. You'd rather see something you love get tortured in front of you as it dies instead of receiving a swift, honourable death? I guess if you're happy, who am I to say anything.

The 3D style is not fitting for Kushinov Illya's designs. It's a missed opportunity.
Speaking of that, OP should've put up a poll.
Nov 13, 2020 11:24 PM
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Funny stance. You'd rather see something you love get tortured in front of you as it dies instead of receiving a swift, honourable death? I guess if you're happy, who am I to say anything.


Only if you consider it torture. I don't consider it torture, i enjoyed it better than most anime coming now days.

I guess there are 3 type of brain type, both seeking same feeling as original.

one accepts that it is nearly impossible to recreate it which can satisfy everyone so we are happy with what we got. [me]

second just complains and not understanding that you can simply skip the damn show if you don't like it and let others enjoy instead of ranting about it.

third, rants about it's imperfection but are at least respectful. [you]
Jun 11, 2021 7:04 PM

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Can't believe there's been absolutely no news on this coming out, been well over a year now
Jun 30, 2021 9:45 PM

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I'm hyped for it and waiting patiently. With how long NF is taking to release the sequel, I feel like I'll have to rewatch season 1 because I'll have forgotten the finer details of the plot by the time the sequel is finally released.
Unlike many, I found season 1 enjoyable once I got used to CG. And I loved Togusa's makeover and his extended role. Certainly looking forward to seeing more of the same.
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Jul 3, 2021 3:00 PM
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Needs to come out already.
Jul 7, 2021 11:14 PM
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Why do I get notifications for this shit? Oh, right. I PTW the first season, which I'm not gonna do any soon.
Jul 7, 2021 11:25 PM
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Stand Alone Complex, Arise, and Mamoru Oshii's GITS should be treated as separate works with separate universes.

That said, the first half (Netflix season) of SAC_2045 is a disgrace... so far. We are talking about Kenji Kamiyama (chief director of SAC series) and Yoshiki "Taiki" Sakurai (chief producer at Netflix, and main writer for the SAC series) here so it is too early to make judgments on how they achieve whatever they set to achieve (whatever it is exactly, we still have no complete picture).

The most popular review for SAC_2045 is a misunderstanding of the 1984 reference. The 1984 reference in SAC_2045 is the same literary influence Catcher in the Rye had in SAC 1st season and is confined within the main "antagonist" and has no overarching influence on the grand narrative.

The best review I've read outside MAL is by R. Matadeen who called the Think Pol program a "social justice app" which aptly ties SAC_2045 with current social phenomena and could be seen as an exploration of the worst conclusion of cancel/consequence culture (or not; we don't know that yet--like in SAC 1, you wouldn't know if the writers had hope for technology or were incredibly pessimistic about it until the end). But the bigger issue is The PostHuman, which is like an algorithmic singularity virus that triggers the singularity within a cyberbrain, making it orders of magnitude more intelligent. We don't know how it works, and Togusa might be infected too.

So yeah, definitely a bad first half--SO FAR--but that just makes it seeing the second half much more important. It's SAC_2045's chance for redemption.
Jul 8, 2021 2:13 AM

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i didn't like the CGA, they should never have used that style/system/technique whatever you call it.

i didn't like the writing. the initial setting was... 'WTF from minute 1 with zero setup.' i hate shows like that, read me a GD story with the narrator before the opening scene at a minimum. don't shove exposition into the first episode's characters' mouths like they were spewing split pea soup from 'The Exorcist'.

how on gods green earth did a team of Japanese counter-terrorist-specialist cops nee military grunts and whatnots end up in GD American SouthWest? i has been awhile since i watched 'part1' but i STILL wondered about that one for quite a long time.

i'll watch part2 since i geeked out over GITS for decades now. even Arise made me kinda happy, except the English dub recasting. bleck! Mary Elizabeth McGlynn IS The Major... nobody else.
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Jul 8, 2021 2:16 AM

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ew, what's this 3d gross animation. And also Netflix?
 
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Jul 8, 2021 4:46 AM
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Matchiu said:
ew, what's this 3d gross animation. And also Netflix?


Eiji Inomoto is the genius 3D artist who pushed the boundaries of 3D animation in anime starting with SAC 1. He worked on SAC 2nd GIG and was also 3D Director for the Arise fork. He is the founder of Studio Orange known for Land of the Lustrous and Beastars, two of the greatest masterpieces in anime. Inomoto wasn't involved with SAC_2045 for whatever reason.

SAC_2045 3D animation was helmed by Shinji Aramaki, bringing in his boomer-who-took-3D-animation-classes-in-the-90s-and-still-does-machinima-in-2020 style. Aramaki was an extremely important figure for Production I.G. and was one of the earliest adopters of 3D animation in anime, so I would understand Kamiyama letting Aramaki do such an important work. Except, you know, the animation turned out to be not even funny bad.

As for why Netflix? The main writer for SAC became the chief producer of Netflix Japan. Yoshiki Sakurai changed his name to Taiki Sakurai. In Kamiyama's interview, this push towards 3D animation was Production I.G.'s evolutionary response to industry norms, and the fact that they (Sakurai and Kamiyama are best buds and Sakurai is still part of Production I.G.) are now working under Netflix, an American company with a multi-national reach, compels them to rethink their target audience. This is one of the most glaring mistakes in the direction of SAC_2045, where they pander blatantly to an imagined American audience, except they don't have the sensibilities for such an audience, i.e. they use outdated memes like Steve Jobs, thinking that'd be a hit in America, in 2020.
Jul 8, 2021 4:50 AM

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FANTAMELONSODA said:
Matchiu said:
ew, what's this 3d gross animation. And also Netflix?


Eiji Inomoto is the genius 3D artist who pushed the boundaries of 3D animation in anime starting with SAC 1. He worked on SAC 2nd GIG and was also 3D Director for the Arise fork. He is the founder of Studio Orange known for Land of the Lustrous and Beastars, two of the greatest masterpieces in anime. Inomoto wasn't involved with SAC_2045 for whatever reason.

SAC_2045 3D animation was helmed by Shinji Aramaki, bringing in his boomer-who-took-3D-animation-classes-in-the-90s-and-still-does-machinima-in-2020 style. Aramaki was an extremely important figure for Production I.G. and was one of the earliest adopters of 3D animation in anime, so I would understand Kamiyama letting Aramaki do such an important work. Except, you know, the animation turned out to be not even funny bad.

As for why Netflix? The main writer for SAC became the chief producer of Netflix Japan. Yoshiki Sakurai changed his name to Taiki Sakurai. In Kamiyama's interview, this push towards 3D animation was Production I.G.'s evolutionary response to industry norms, and the fact that they (Sakurai and Kamiyama are best buds and Sakurai is still part of Production I.G.) are now working under Netflix, an American company with a multi-national reach, compels them to rethink their target audience. This is one of the most glaring mistakes in the direction of SAC_2045, where they pander blatantly to an imagined American audience, except they don't have the sensibilities for such an audience, i.e. they use outdated memes like Steve Jobs, thinking that'd be a hit in America, in 2020.


ok my bad

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Jul 8, 2021 4:53 AM

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Haven't heard of this shit at all until now lmao.
Never knew it was hated at all too.

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Jul 8, 2021 4:56 AM
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I think I would give season 1 like a 6, only because the first half was a huge drag. Honestly if the momentum is kept I'm sure it'll be a worth while addition unlike some of what I've seen of Arise.
Jul 8, 2021 5:14 AM

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As a hardcore GitS SAC long time fan I really did enjoy the first part, obviously it wasn't anywhere near the level of the original and even Arise was better, but still this was fun and entertaining when compared to all the garbage that comes out of Hollyweird. First 5 or 6 episodes of the first part were really decent, my only complaint for season 1 was the creation and introduction of the character Purin Esaki. That character was super irrelevant imo, they should have used those remaining episodes and time in part 1 to deep dive more into the OG characters of Section 9 instead of brining someone new that looks way out of place.
Jul 8, 2021 5:54 AM

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I liked it, but didn’t love it. I’m still curious to see what the second part will be like, so I’m going to watch it.
Jul 8, 2021 6:31 AM

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oh no please dont hurt me no more

Jul 8, 2021 6:56 AM
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Personally I enjoyed the first half. I know the animation was hit or miss but the story was still very GiTS thematically. I'm looking forward to it!!
Jul 8, 2021 11:20 AM

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the first season was a disaster, but as a fan of ghost in the shell i feel like i need to watch it no matter what.
Jul 8, 2021 1:37 PM

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all the hype, tho I've already forgotten almost everything about sac 2045 so I hope someone makes one of those recap videos so I can refresh my memory
Jul 11, 2021 11:50 PM

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Hype? None. Excited? Not at all. Will I watch it? Yes.

I will watch it because it's GitS, not because it's good. I'm attached to the characters, even if I have no hope for this take on the SAC series and I personally loathe the CGA. I admit it has its moments (it's not unwatchable) but it's terrible compared to everything before it. I haven't even finished it, ha. Guess I should do so now.
Jul 25, 2021 7:33 PM
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Yes, I'm hella hyped. First 6 episodes suck, Last 6 were very good. Once I heard that the first season was cut short I knew I have to at least watch the second season.
Aug 12, 2021 7:50 PM

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can't believe psycho pass got a much better treatment in the last 2 years, RIP ghost in the shell
Sep 3, 2021 10:41 AM
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Finished season 1. I definitely understand why it's divided fans. Personally I liked it. As different as the 3D was from everything else, the plot, cast, music were genuinely a follow up to the other SAC series. I just wish they hadn't stopped when they did with episode 12. I need to know what happens next!
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Sep 7, 2021 4:32 AM

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This shit is never going to happen.

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can't believe psycho pass got a much better treatment in the last 2 years, RIP ghost in the shell
Dude, Psycho Pass got a fake (and incrdibly awful)second season and a shitty reboot with S3, that is far from a good treatment.

Sep 7, 2021 6:10 PM

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SteelingMax said:
This shit is never going to happen.

AnimeSoap said:
can't believe psycho pass got a much better treatment in the last 2 years, RIP ghost in the shell
Dude, Psycho Pass got a fake (and incrdibly awful)second season and a shitty reboot with S3, that is far from a good treatment.

Nah, the sequels aren't as bad as people make them out to be. (particularly s2) Definitely much better treatment than Sac 2045.
Sep 7, 2021 6:49 PM

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AnimeSoap said:
Nah, the sequels aren't as bad as people make them out to be. (particularly s2) Definitely much better treatment than Sac 2045.
I don't care what "people" say, i've watched both, this is my own opinion, S2 of Psycho-Pass is bottom of the barrel storytelling, they basically tried to copy everything about S1, but made it non-sensical and has no repercussions anywhere, S3 is a bit better, a bit boring, the new characters are ridiculous, introduced a ridiculous power that makes no sense in the universe, it nowhere near S1 or even the movie that a tier or 2 below.

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SteelingMax said:
AnimeSoap said:
Nah, the sequels aren't as bad as people make them out to be. (particularly s2) Definitely much better treatment than Sac 2045.
I don't care what "people" say, i've watched both, this is my own opinion, S2 of Psycho-Pass is bottom of the barrel storytelling, they basically tried to copy everything about S1, but made it non-sensical and has no repercussions anywhere, S3 is a bit better, a bit boring, the new characters are ridiculous, introduced a ridiculous power that makes no sense in the universe, it nowhere near S1 or even the movie that a tier or 2 below.

I included you in "people". I agree that S2 tries to be like s1 but fails and only amplifies the problems present in S1. With that said, the lead writers were put in really tight spot and still managed to put out a somewhat coherent narrative though vastly inferior. Its no doubt the lowest point of the series but far from bottom of the barrel.
The movie and subsequent SS movies were an improvement however. S3 with the mentalist ability really goes overboard but the production was really solid for the most part. I wish GiTS 2045 got the same production S3.
Sep 9, 2021 5:42 AM
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Yugesai said:
I am once again convinced that even the greatest will fall and die sometime.
Look at what happened to Berserk
Look at what happened to the Assassin's Creed franchise
Look at anything EA touched.
Look at Boruto Filler Generations (Where fillers come to life)
Look at the convoluted bullshit in the Kingdom Hearts franchise...

everything rots and dies.
Nurgle's decay is real.
I'm not sure what you meant by Berserk. The Bersek manga was great. Too bad we only have the '97 adaptation. I would love to see a new adaptation of Kentaro's great manga
Nov 12, 2021 2:31 AM

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While I'm not hyped. I would like to see how this ends.


After all, better than being left on a cliffhanger.
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Dec 19, 2021 9:41 AM

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Wheeennnnn is it coming already? I've rewatched the whole Gits SAC in order just to refresh my memory, now I need the continuation.
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May 9, 2022 7:58 AM
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Kinda suprised that they're pushing through with a new season on this but then again, GITS is a major I.P. that Netflix wouldn't want to drop that easy considering it's good and not so good history (2017 Live Action missed Major plot points and dumbed it down way too much)

I sat down and watched it with my father expecting a bit more of the complexity the 2 anime movies bought to the table, but instead i got mid cg, annoying side character trope and themes where the show tries to elaborate on being deep but falls flat and ends up being "edgy", like there's a literal episode that's called EDGELORD that references 1984, i feel like this arc could've been pulled off better

I did like the fights though, scenes with Batou or the Tachikomas, all that and the suprisingly good soundtrack, it was enjoyable, i just hope the animation team gets a higher budget so the characters don't unintentionally resemble claymation puppets

TLDR: despite it's flaws i kinda liked it and will watch S2 with my dad when it comes out
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May 10, 2022 3:35 PM
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watched the movie and im ready for season 2 though i hope they make more sac is just soo good

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