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Oct 9, 2020 11:00 AM
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This is NOT a thread about Fruits Basket being "overrated" or anything of the sort.

I just want to understand one thing: the extremely high score of this pure, innocent fantasy-mellodrama-slice of life. This is not the type of show to have an 8.50+ score, so here's my theory: the vast majority of people who made it this far into the series are those who already loved the original and are here to experience the new, well animated, fully adapted version of it.

Is this the case? I'd mostly like to hear the opinions of people who are having their first contact with fruits basket through this new adaptation.

UPDATE: I liked the 2nd part of the 2nd season very much! Especially because it actually made me like Yuki due to him finding the core of his and Kyo's relationship with Tooru respectively, and the Souma family feels way more unified with their story going towards a proper conclusion!

So basically I can now understand why this story touches many people this much.
NostalgikJan 25, 2021 9:05 AM
Oct 10, 2020 1:10 PM
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I never watched the original anime from 2001 and I like this show, I'm not fan but it's really difficult for me to like this kind of shows because most of them end up boring me so I gave Fruits Basket an opportunity and it really impressed me.

Of course, I have my issues with questionable methods in some side character stories like Hatori's past or maybe some jokes that are not funny but besides that, the pacing is quite nice and something always happens, not like other similar anime that nothing happens or its is repetitive. Some complained that this season is too slow or nothing happens, but I was surprised when I'm watching this season because things really happen and they are not minor.

MAL scores don't matter in the end.
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Oct 10, 2020 4:28 PM
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Nurguburu said:
I never watched the original anime from 2001 and I like this show, I'm not fan but it's really difficult for me to like this kind of shows because most of them end up boring me so I gave Fruits Basket an opportunity and it really impressed me.

Of course, I have my issues with questionable methods in some side character stories like Hatori's past or maybe some jokes that are not funny but besides that, the pacing is quite nice and something always happens, not like other similar anime that nothing happens or its is repetitive. Some complained that this season is too slow or nothing happens, but I was surprised when I'm watching this season because things really happen and they are not minor.

MAL scores don't matter in the end.
Yes that's true, as a faithful adaptation something relevant happens in every episode, and it's an overall feels good slice of life and it does stand out in the genre for that indeed. I can understand that, thanks for the input!

MAL scores do matter though, I use them as reference for what the community in general loves more or less, and you helped me understand a bit better why Fruits Basket would have such appeal for the public in general (or for slice of life / romance / drama watchers at least). I think the top 100~ (and so on) on MAL is pretty solid overall, though that's a whole other discussion for another thread.
Jan 10, 2021 1:13 PM
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Honestly? The original Fruits Basket was the very first anime I ever watched, and thus I think it'll always be one of my favorites. I've watched the original multiple times, and read the manga all the way through. But regardless of all of that, I was really impressed with how beautifully and perfectly remade the anime turned out to be. I think that it is a very unique and heartwarming story with a lot of very important lessons within, and I can't say I'm very shocked that it has the score that it does.
Jan 10, 2021 4:56 PM
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I never watched the 2001 anime or read the manga, I just came across a recomendation for the new version and gave it a try. For me the element that made the show stand out was the protagonist Thoru. Since I watch a lot of Shojo and Slice of life, I am used to the "clumsy, inocent girl" and they often feel very superficial, but Thoru doesn't (at least for me). She has gone trough a lot, but she's still willing to help others. That's the main reason why I love the show, but I was also impressed by the plot. :D
Jan 24, 2021 8:27 AM
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Don't judge a book by its cover, that's the best suggestion I could give you with this sort of series. Fruits Basket isn't just happiness and wholesomeness, it's a balance between light and darkness, like life should be ala Clannad After Story. This is especially evident in the 2nd season. It starts all nice and fun, but gets extremely depressing at times, still getting through a hopeful note. Many checked it out at first since it was a reboot in the Brotherhood style, so many assumed it was that good to receive such treatment, and of course stayed for the story but especially the characters afterwards. For a show with a silly premise like some hot dudes and chicks getting naked, that might seem like a fanservice reverse harem, but it's actually the maturity in which fruits basket explores its vast variety of themes and how it subverts every trope you might know about, making it instead beautifully real, in a way that only adds bulk to the characters and I dare to say it wouldn't be hard to mistake them actual people, that makes it standout, in fact you can find one of the best examples of character development in this series, being real and authentic, even too much for what you tipically find in the anime media.
Jan 25, 2021 9:19 AM
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Thank you for the replies :)

I updated the original post with my thoughts, but basically, I can see how the many lessons Fruits Basket has in it about relationships in general can easily touch many people! It's really wholesome and it's definitely a must watch for Slice of Life / Romance lovers.
Jan 27, 2021 2:10 AM
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Just to add on after your own comments, I would argue fruits basket is less of a romance and more of a deep character study.

On the surface I could see why people would think this is a common Shoujo. Tohru seems like the perfectly cute, does nothing girl, Yuki is a prince, Kyo is comic relief etc etc.

However, as you watch the show, and the second season especially, the characters are not just their tropes. I don’t want to be longwinded so I’ll focus on two characters and call it a day... also minor spoilers

Tohru: On the onset, she is the perfect girl who is way too nice and is somehow so kind hearted she changes everyone. While she is kind, it’s to a fault and the show isn’t really quick to say this is ALWAYS a good thing. Because she is kind to a fault, she consistently fails to care for herself. She is oblivious and, worse, is not in any position to handle the grief of losing her mom even one year later. She is a broken character at heart. Her smile is what she feels she HAS to do to not burden others — ie live in a tent instead of asking friends for help, telling Kyo and Yuki to go to soma house for holidays leaving her alone, etc. she is the embodiment of someone figuring themselves out.

And Yuki: my absolute favorite character in maybe any anime. I won’t go too in depth because you yourself said how much you liked his arc so you see the beauty in it. I just want to add, yuki being self aware enough to know he doesn’t want Tohru because it would be an unrequited love where he doesn’t feel he has equal footing IS a big deal and I think separates this show from 85% of SOL shows on the market.

The truth is the characters and the way they are written are what set this show apart.
Feb 2, 2021 7:50 PM
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merk43 said:
Just to add on after your own comments, I would argue fruits basket is less of a romance and more of a deep character study.

On the surface I could see why people would think this is a common Shoujo. Tohru seems like the perfectly cute, does nothing girl, Yuki is a prince, Kyo is comic relief etc etc.

However, as you watch the show, and the second season especially, the characters are not just their tropes. I don’t want to be longwinded so I’ll focus on two characters and call it a day... also minor spoilers

Tohru: On the onset, she is the perfect girl who is way too nice and is somehow so kind hearted she changes everyone. While she is kind, it’s to a fault and the show isn’t really quick to say this is ALWAYS a good thing. Because she is kind to a fault, she consistently fails to care for herself. She is oblivious and, worse, is not in any position to handle the grief of losing her mom even one year later. She is a broken character at heart. Her smile is what she feels she HAS to do to not burden others — ie live in a tent instead of asking friends for help, telling Kyo and Yuki to go to soma house for holidays leaving her alone, etc. she is the embodiment of someone figuring themselves out.

And Yuki: my absolute favorite character in maybe any anime. I won’t go too in depth because you yourself said how much you liked his arc so you see the beauty in it. I just want to add, yuki being self aware enough to know he doesn’t want Tohru because it would be an unrequited love where he doesn’t feel he has equal footing IS a big deal and I think separates this show from 85% of SOL shows on the market.

The truth is the characters and the way they are written are what set this show apart.


yeah i absolutely enjoyed Yuki’s development in season 2. He has actually became somewhat a prince? in his own way i mean, cos its not easy to swallow your pride and want to change. He just stands up and accepts anything that happens to him and he’s only 16. He was definitely my favourite character in season 2, Kyo didn’t need much development since we saw that in season 1.
Feb 2, 2021 10:45 PM

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Another person who didn’t watch the 2001 version. This version hooked me because the zodiac animals were SO cute and I figured it would be something fun and lighthearted to watch. Then it got complex and dark in such an interesting way! I really loved the character development and the development of character interactions as they opened up to understand each other more.

At first, Tohru was annoying to me but now I really appreciate how she was always kind, thoughtful and not judgmental even after life dealt her a difficult hand. She always jumps to the better conclusion rather than thinking the worst of people. Things I try to do daily but fail often lol
Feb 3, 2021 1:36 AM

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I know this thread is old and you have since come up with your own conclusion (you liked it!) but I'd still like to my add 2 cents.

I watched the original anime almost a decade ago and felt very dissatisfied with the adaptation. It lacked a lot of the source material--it didn't even have all the zodiacs!

That led me to the manga. Never in my life until then did I connect so deeply to a paper of 90s drawn art with text bubbles on it. Especially as a teenager--which is story directed at mostly, it's easy to see yourself in any of the characters. I really aspired to be like Torhu with her kindness. I wanted to be that nice and that understanding of others. She inspired me as a grumpy pubescent teen.

I'm now 23 but still find myself connected to them. It's just written so well. The art of the manga may not have aged well, but the story did along with its characters. The narratives of each core character is just so important.

This anime and manga tackles heavy topics and does it well. As someone who comes from a toxic home life, that's the biggest theme here. Forgiveness and moving on are such core concepts. While romance is a key kickstarter--self love is obtained first before any character truly finds their way. Forgiving yourself, swallowing your pride, and picking yourself up is such a powerful message.

The complexity to Kyo, Akito, and Yuki really carry the show for what it is.

I'm excited for season 3!
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Feb 28, 2021 11:33 AM
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Nostalgik said:
This is NOT a thread about Fruits Basket being "overrated" or anything of the sort.

I just want to understand one thing: the extremely high score of this pure, innocent fantasy-mellodrama-slice of life. This is not the type of show to have an 8.50+ score, so here's my theory: the vast majority of people who made it this far into the series are those who already loved the original and are here to experience the new, well animated, fully adapted version of it.

Is this the case? I'd mostly like to hear the opinions of people who are having their first contact with fruits basket through this new adaptation.

UPDATE: I liked the 2nd part of the 2nd season very much! Especially because it actually made me like Yuki due to him finding the core of his and Kyo's relationship with Tooru respectively, and the Souma family feels way more unified with their story going towards a proper conclusion!

So basically I can now understand why this story touches many people this much.


This is the type of show that will take a premise that's so simple and seems so lighthearted but then punch you in the face.

Just kidding, but like, I love how the mangaka (and by extension the anime FINALLY) gave each character so much depth and shows how each of them individually has their own reasons for wanting the curse broken, and shows how each of their lives were uniquely affected by their role in the zodiac and Akito's treatment of them. It's a truly heartwarming story of self actualization and learning to appreciate yourself and accept love from others even after being denied real love in the past.

I know that got ~deep~ but this is my favorite manga for so many reasons even more than what i already said
Feb 28, 2021 11:35 AM
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Alex82829290 said:
Don't judge a book by its cover, that's the best suggestion I could give you with this sort of series. Fruits Basket isn't just happiness and wholesomeness, it's a balance between light and darkness, like life should be ala Clannad After Story. This is especially evident in the 2nd season. It starts all nice and fun, but gets extremely depressing at times, still getting through a hopeful note. Many checked it out at first since it was a reboot in the Brotherhood style, so many assumed it was that good to receive such treatment, and of course stayed for the story but especially the characters afterwards. For a show with a silly premise like some hot dudes and chicks getting naked, that might seem like a fanservice reverse harem, but it's actually the maturity in which fruits basket explores its vast variety of themes and how it subverts every trope you might know about, making it instead beautifully real, in a way that only adds bulk to the characters and I dare to say it wouldn't be hard to mistake them actual people, that makes it standout, in fact you can find one of the best examples of character development in this series, being real and authentic, even too much for what you tipically find in the anime media.


I agree with this 100%. It's amazing how in the hands of a different writer/director and a different audience the premise could have turned out totally different, and instead it just ends up being really sweet.

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