Bokurano - Speculation on the "enemy mechas"

Jun 5, 2007 4:41 AM

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I was having drinks with a couple of friends last nigh (who happen to be anime fans...) and somewhere along the way the conversation jumped to anime, as expected...
Among other shows we happened to discussed Bokurano and...

It's probably too early to specualte and I wouldn't prolly make this post if I hadn't had a discussion about this last nigh...
But even though it's speculation... I'm somehow so sure about this that I'm gonna put it on spoiler tags

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...yet I do know this... If this is true then this show is inteligent and twisted in a way beyond... and might as well become a favourite pretty soon..

I sooooooo.... can't wait for the next episodes now !! O_O

Jun 5, 2007 5:46 AM

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MasterChief had the same theory about other kids back in the episode 4 discussion although he didn't elaborate on it.

EDIT: tried to clarify somewhat

tainteddonutJun 5, 2007 5:53 AM

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Jun 5, 2007 6:18 AM

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I think I had overlooked that comment by MasterChief until now.

I think I see what confusion you are making relating my theory. Let me try to clarify

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Jun 5, 2007 6:42 AM

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Ok I found a few... and they seem to corroborate my theory

Jun 5, 2007 7:06 AM

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Ah ok, I understand what you were saying now.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.

Jun 5, 2007 7:24 AM

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Missed that intro one

Jun 6, 2007 2:43 AM

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I've also thought that the other robots are piloted by other kids, for the same reasons you's 2 have said.

Another thing im curious about is whether Kokopelli really is the creator of the zearth, etc, or not or whatever. Cause in the first ep there are a whole bunch of other seats in zearth already, and at some point kokkopoli looks right and left at all the other seats in silence. Makes me think that kokopelli might actually be the victom of zearth in the past, and he is the last remainding pilot in zearth, and he had to pass it on to 15 more people or whatever.
But then that also brings on a whole bunch of other things, so i guess i just got to wait and see...

and to the above discussion...

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Jun 6, 2007 3:57 AM

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That's a interesting theory you have there on Kokopelli's

Jun 6, 2007 7:31 AM

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I like all this speculation. Gives me something to think about and consider while waiting for the next episode =D

Concerning Kokopelli and other pilots...

Hopefully we won't be left hanging for too long and new fansubbed episodes will be out to answer some of these questions.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.

Jun 6, 2007 6:21 PM

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I intended to post sooner but i couldnt :/
And yeah I'm also loving all this speculation^^

Jun 7, 2007 12:37 AM

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My theories on what could possibly be going on has some spoilers from another show which you may or may not have seen. So my post will have a spoiler within a spoiler just in case ;)

The more I thought about the other mechs having less pilots (less lights) the more I wondered how they would have come to that point. As I said before, the fighting they would have to do creates large disturbances that surely wouldn't go unnoticed. So where on Earth could they have been battling unnoticed? But then that got me thinking, why does it have to be Earth? The first thought that came to mind was space, possibly other planets. It could explain a lot of things covered so far but after thinking about it and another show I began to favor another theory.

Last year I watched a show called Noein. When comparing the shows I began to think up parallels which I feel could explain some of the story. There's some spoilers for Noein that follow but I'll try to keep them mild for those who haven't seen it

One of the concepts in Noein basically deals with what's known as parallel universes which is one that's been seen in many sci-fi television programs and movies. The basic concept is that these alternate dimensions are all different offshoots of each other. For instance, in one of the dimensions the main protagonist Yuu is just a young boy struggling with school work and a demanding parent. In another he's 15 years older and fighting a war. When I began to compare a lot of the concepts and events in Noein with Bokurano, there seemed to be a lot of possible answers to the questions.

First off, the question of Dung Beetle's threat. If Dung Beetle really is dead serious about the planet going boom then parallel universes would explain why the Earth on which the story takes place hasn't bit the dust yet. If the pilots in the enemy mechs die and take their planet with them then the kids would never notice.

This would also explain where previous battles could have been fought. If these enemy pilots lost their friends fighting on their 'home turf' then it would explain why nobody had ever known about battles with Zearth until the kids began their fight.

In addition it can also shed light on why that enemy was so cautious in episode 3 or 4 (can't remember which atm). This is actually a big reason I started leaning towards thinking about parallel universes and Noein. In Noein Yuu is confronted by a man who calls himself Karasu and claims to be Yuu at 15 years older. The place where Karasu came from is called La'Cryma and has been at war with another place called Shangri'La for the past 15 years. Karasu travelled through many dimensions to find what's known as the Dragon Torque which he believes can help them win their war. However, upon seeing a dimension that exactly mirrored his past peaceful life, Karasu decides to protect it instead. If the enemy pilots are in fact human then it can be understandable why they'd feel the need to minimize damage. This is especially true if, like Karasu, the very city they were fighting in is the same as where they live on their home world.

So far that's the best explaination I can come up with. I'm hoping they'll give more clues as to what's going on sooner rather than later. I wouldn't be surprised if the answers are all simple and overlooked things that I'm just overexamaining ;P

EDIT: cleaned up the explaination somewhat. I originally wrote all that half-awake at 3AM :P

tainteddonutJun 7, 2007 5:36 AM

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Jun 7, 2007 5:06 AM

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argh.. it had to be Noein :[ . I'm still waiting on KAA's releases so I can download it and start watchin'
I'm afraid that if I click that second spoiler tag it will spoil the fun on that show... and I so want to read that -_-

Jun 7, 2007 5:44 AM

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I just edited the spoilers a bit and reworded some stuff. The Noein spoilers don't go into much more detail than what you can already find as descriptions of the show on Anime News Network and here on MAL so I believe they're safe and won't ruin the show.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.

Jun 8, 2007 7:19 AM

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Ok thanks for that :)

Jun 9, 2007 3:28 AM

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EDIT: Been past 15 mins cant delete it >,>....

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May 5, 2016 1:46 AM

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Kayrhandros said:
I was having drinks with a couple of friends last nigh (who happen to be anime fans...) and somewhere along the way the conversation jumped to anime, as expected...
Among other shows we happened to discussed Bokurano and...

It's probably too early to specualte and I wouldn't prolly make this post if I hadn't had a discussion about this last nigh...
But even though it's speculation... I'm somehow so sure about this that I'm gonna put it on spoiler tags

Im about 11 episodes in right now but these have been my thoughts since maybe around ep.4 as soon as I saw the little white rose like orb they crushed I wanted to know what was inside lol. Glad this has somehow not been spoiled for me.

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