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Nov 18, 2021 9:48 PM
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So is the complexity only related to Shoji or are there some hidden meanings or themes that require my constant attention to each detail while watching it?

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Nov 18, 2021 10:22 PM
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Yeah you have been watching it right, the story is all about a shogi genius and his struggles. Hidden meanings include the perceivings Rei sees as he continues through his struggle. As he is an orphan and heavily relies on his Shogi for his livelihood, meaning each match has an impact on his mindset (although I am not considering the property and assets which his late father kept for him entrusted to his friend, because Rei refused to accept it). This anime is a masterpiece which truly hits the audience's hearts. But to watch it, one must have enough patience and must put him/her in Rei's shoes to experience every moment he had. I rated it 10/10 and will do it anytime anywhere if the topic is surfaced.
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Nov 18, 2021 10:30 PM
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Sangatsu no Lion is more complex then I am able to explain, but what I can say whitout telling any spoilers is that the complexity goes WAY further then the game o Shogi.
Also, thats not a show that you need to pay 100% of atention to understant the story, it’s more about what it’s make you fell about then anything else...
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Nov 18, 2021 10:31 PM
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Yes, there's a lot to take in outside of the shogi, however, there are some cases where shogi is used to symbolise things outside of shogi... it's difficult to explain without spoiling plot points, but I think you'll understand eventually. Make sure you pay attention and read the subtitles closely, because dialogue and symbolism are big parts of how the themes, both the more direct themes and the obscure ones, of Sangatsu are presented.

It has all the usual staples of Shinbou's direction, basically. If you've been able to make sense of his other directorial works, you shouldn't have too much trouble making sense of Sangatsu either.
Nov 18, 2021 11:28 PM
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There’s metaphors and stuff very often but it’s not like Serial Experiments Lain or something. If you mean “can I watch it while doing something else” then I’d say no because you’d miss some stuff but if you just want to know whether you could watch it or not then yes it’s amazing.
Nov 18, 2021 11:40 PM
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really complex. shogi is basically 4d chess
Nov 18, 2021 11:42 PM
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No, its not a confusing anime similar to the likes of flcl, Nerawareta Gakuen or Kurozuka. No, need for youtube videos at all.

It doesn't even need Shogi knowledge either. Shogi part is not the focus even if its present sufficiently.

Its a drama more or less.
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Nov 19, 2021 12:58 AM
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Well...Shogi's not the main part of the show (really its just a minor facet of the entire thing)but its used in a way to express Character's current selves and their flaws at that point in their life.From what i remember,the shogi games arent focusing on the games themselevs but rather people's inner thoughts,the regrets and the drive of wanting to be better/wanting to know where to go next.
The show is pretty (stylistic?)in the way it presents emotions,events etc but its indirect enough that its not toohard to put your finger on what the characters are feeling.
Nov 19, 2021 2:27 AM
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You don’t need to understand Shogi but the games reveal his state of mind through music and imagery.
Nov 21, 2021 4:56 AM
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Chiribei said:
Yes, there's a lot to take in outside of the shogi, however, there are some cases where shogi is used to symbolise things outside of shogi... it's difficult to explain without spoiling plot points, but I think you'll understand eventually. Make sure you pay attention and read the subtitles closely, because dialogue and symbolism are big parts of how the themes, both the more direct themes and the obscure ones, of Sangatsu are presented.

It has all the usual staples of Shinbou's direction, basically. If you've been able to make sense of his other directorial works, you shouldn't have too much trouble making sense of Sangatsu either.
Umino Chika is the reason why this show is good, not Shaft since unlike Mafoka and Monogatari, the writing is actually top tier.
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Nov 21, 2021 5:59 AM
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cchigu said:
Chiribei said:
Yes, there's a lot to take in outside of the shogi, however, there are some cases where shogi is used to symbolise things outside of shogi... it's difficult to explain without spoiling plot points, but I think you'll understand eventually. Make sure you pay attention and read the subtitles closely, because dialogue and symbolism are big parts of how the themes, both the more direct themes and the obscure ones, of Sangatsu are presented.

It has all the usual staples of Shinbou's direction, basically. If you've been able to make sense of his other directorial works, you shouldn't have too much trouble making sense of Sangatsu either.
Umino Chika is the reason why this show is good, not Shaft since unlike Mafoka and Monogatari, the writing is actually top tier.

Shaft has nothing to do with the writing, that's not what I was talking about when I mentioned Shaft and Shinbou. Umino and anime screenplay writer Yukito Kizawa are obviously the people to thank for how good the writing is.

However, while some of it is still owed to Umino's art in the manga, there are also visual elements of symbolism that are unique to the anime because they were brought in from their experience with adding similar elements to other anime.

I separated talking about the writing and Shaft's contribution to the anime between two paragraphs for a reason; because they're intended as separate points, I didn't just separate them because I felt like it. I'm not saying they're the whole reason it's good.

The animation studio doesn't write the anime. Crediting Shaft for the "bad" writing in Monogatari and Madoka is really telling about your knowledge of how the anime industry operates, or more accurately, your lack of it.
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Chiribei said:
cchigu said:
Umino Chika is the reason why this show is good, not Shaft since unlike Mafoka and Monogatari, the writing is actually top tier.

Shaft has nothing to do with the writing, that's not what I was talking about when I mentioned Shaft and Shinbou. Umino and anime screenplay writer Yukito Kizawa are obviously the people yo thank for how good the writing is.

However, while some of it is still owed to Umino's art in the manga, there are also visual elements of symbolism that are unique to the anime because they were brought in from their experience with adding similar elements to other anime.

I separated talking about the writing and Shaft's contribution to the anime between two paragraphs for a reason; because they're intended as separate points, I didn't just separate them because I felt like it. I'm not saying they're the whole reason it's good.

The animation studio doesn't write the anime. Crediting Shaft for the "bad" writing in Monogatari and Madoka is really telling about your knowledge of how the anime industry operates, or more accurately, your lack of it.
You are drawing conclusions out of thin air. The writing of Madoka and Monogatari is, eh, decent-ish but the style of these shows is where they shine the most at, unlike Sangatsu.

Also, I am pretty sure that I know about the industry much more than you.
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Nov 21, 2021 7:53 AM
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cchigu said:
Chiribei said:

Shaft has nothing to do with the writing, that's not what I was talking about when I mentioned Shaft and Shinbou. Umino and anime screenplay writer Yukito Kizawa are obviously the people yo thank for how good the writing is.

However, while some of it is still owed to Umino's art in the manga, there are also visual elements of symbolism that are unique to the anime because they were brought in from their experience with adding similar elements to other anime.

I separated talking about the writing and Shaft's contribution to the anime between two paragraphs for a reason; because they're intended as separate points, I didn't just separate them because I felt like it. I'm not saying they're the whole reason it's good.

The animation studio doesn't write the anime. Crediting Shaft for the "bad" writing in Monogatari and Madoka is really telling about your knowledge of how the anime industry operates, or more accurately, your lack of it.
You are drawing conclusions out of thin air. The writing of Madoka and Monogatari is, eh, decent-ish but the style of these shows is where they shine the most at, unlike Sangatsu.

Also, I am pretty sure that I know about the industry much more than you.

Admittedly, yes, you didn't say "bad" so it was wrong on my end to phrase it that way.

However, the point still stands that you held Shaft, the animation studio, responsible for your thoughts on the writing of Madoka and Monogatari, so if you do know so much about the industry, then you aren't showing it or aren't considering what you know when you speak. For Madoka, hold Urobuchi accountable. For Monogatari, hold Munemasa Nakamoto, the script writer, accountable. If 3-gatsu's anime adaptation didn't have the writing quality you desired (it doesn't, but IF it did), who would you blame, Shaft or the aforementioned head anime screenplay writer Yukito Kizawa?

You're an Oregairu fan. I apologise for targeting something you like specifically, but there's a point to be made here and using something you know about as an example is the best way to get it across: when light novel fans discuss the generally poor writing quality of the Shin novels, do they blame Watari, the author, or Ponkan8, the illustrator?

Point is, blaming the animation studio for the fact that you don't like the writing of some of the anime they worked on is like blaming a light novel's illustrator for the fact that you don't like the writing of an LN they did the illustration for. You're simply taking it out on the wrong person/people.
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Nov 26, 2021 10:44 PM

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It's quite complex but I wouldn't say you necessarily need to wrack your brain to know how good it is and why Rei is quite a well-written character, which is more understandable when you put yourself in his shoes and POV. As for me, I'm not necessarily in high affinity with the series and my Shaft preferences are elsewhere in Madoka Magica and Monogatari, but I still consider 3-Gatsu a very solid series by all means, regardless.

To respond to the previous comment, yea it's not very wise to blame a studio directly for lackluster writing or direction. That responsibility falls on the hired scriptwriters and storyboarders and other related staff members, not the animators/illustrators themselves that comprise of the studio in question.

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