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May 6, 2022 3:34 PM
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Ash finally makes it into the final eight, and what a line up we have jfc, absolutely stacked...

- Leon
- Cynthia
- Steven
- Lance
- Diantha
- Alain
- Iris
- Ash

Almost all regional champions...

We'll probably get an Alain vs Ash rematch IMO...

Paul is in the OP, so maybe he replaces somebody....

That usage of rain dance was pretty nice, makes thunder 100% accurate and powers up water moves.
GakutoDeathGlareMay 6, 2022 3:38 PM
May 6, 2022 3:40 PM
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Lucario defeating Duraludon with the power of friendship
May 6, 2022 3:43 PM
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Looks like Lucario's training worked and thanks to him Ash managed to win and get the 8th rank, damn they revealed the other opponents and it's full hype of course! I can't wait to see the next battles
May 6, 2022 5:45 PM
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Nice 👌 battle episode and ash ends up in the 8th position of M8, and we are also shown other members of M8.

I give this episode 8/10.
May 6, 2022 6:24 PM
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Ash vs Alan redemption time for ash, I would really love if they bring greninja back for the rematch with Alan’s charizard but we don’t know if that’s gonna happen but still excited for the match.
May 6, 2022 6:42 PM
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Kiirabu197 said:
Lucario defeating Duraludon with the power of friendship


The first villain of this match was predictability, as it was 100% certain that Ash would win. Idk, it was good I guess but lacked intensity. I believed that if they prepared Raihan and built the battle from 1 or 2 episodes back, then this episode wouldn't need a second part. But now I think it desperately still needed one, and the detail that you just mentioned is the main reason for it.

Dynamax as usual gave me the impression that the battle became a little less fair imo. With just one move from Ash, Gengar "recovers HP", tank multiple strong and boosted moves, and defeats two opposing Pokémon, while Gmax-Duraludon, which is Raihan's best buddy and which should definitely be very scary, fainted with literally an OHKO. Maybe it's just me but I have a hard time seeing a Gigantamax win as something that's truly deserved, especially when it denigrates an elite trainer. Well, I believe the intention here was to give Greninja a point (and race against time).

This battle was serviceable with good simple strategies like wheaters and gave Gengar the moment he probably deserved. It's just that the mediocre animation, the presence of Dynamax and the unexpected lack of time to deliver an outcome that does justice to the ace of a Top 10 trainer, made it difficult to really throw us on the edge of the seat and make us feel in pantheon of battles in the Pokémon world where the best ones take place, as the narrator promised.

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Now about the Masters 8 which is the reason I'm back watching this show... Look, I don't hate Iris but I wanted to see her development, not just throw her massive achievements in my face like that. Iris was barely able to defeat Claire, but suddenly we had to accept that she had become the greatest trainer in the entire Unova region, surpassing Drayden, Claire, Caitlin, and the entire Elite 4 in the region just like that, in the blink of an eye. This is just terrible world-bulding. As if the boost she received wasn't enough, we now learn that this little girl is indeed officially one of the greatest trainers on the entire planet. ...I'm so confused lol There's nothing natural about her 'development', which is really a shame because I wanted to see her efforts that got her where she is. I wouldn't be surprised if I see her beating Lance now.

Top 6 are perfection though, couldn't expect anything better. (they really brought Alain back to give Greninja his revenge, I saw the leaks before but still can't believe it's hapenning lol)
May 6, 2022 6:54 PM
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Who knew Iris would end up in the masters 8, I thought tobias would be there with his legendaries & darkrai... I hope Ash starts to bring his other pokemon like charizard, infernape & others.
May 6, 2022 6:54 PM
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I really hope we would get Ash-Greninja in the previous episode , but in Ash Vs Alan rematch its probably end up being Mega Charizard vs Mega Lucario....it would be cool to see Greninja in the rematch
May 6, 2022 6:56 PM
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RADbtw said:
Ash vs Alan redemption time for ash, I would really love if they bring greninja back for the rematch with Alan’s charizard but we don’t know if that’s gonna happen but still excited for the match.

probably mega lucario vs mega charizard .... i hope we get ash-greninja only for this battle
May 7, 2022 3:37 AM
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Alain is back. There is nothing more I want than Ash vs Alain rematch!! And if Ash-Greninja returns...(problaby not, but it doesn't cost money to hope!!). Probably MCX vs M Lucario.
May 7, 2022 3:49 AM
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I can't believe lucario just threw out a spirit bomb like it was nothing
May 7, 2022 5:53 AM

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It's pretty hype, but to me it would've been even better if I had actually played the games/followed the anime past Diamond & Pearl.

I only know Lance and Cynthia, lol.

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May 7, 2022 9:14 AM

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That was a better victory than the ones against  Volkner and Drasna.
Dragonite vs Flygon was clunky but still entertaining, those hits felt like they were really landing.
Ash having to change his strategy of using Mega Evolution was a good to give some intensity to a battle which outcome was very predictable and watching Dynamax-Gengar wrecking that poor Flygon was way too funny.
The moment against Goodra needed better animation but this time the attacking each other at the same time made more sense than the Dracovish vs Noivern.
Lucario vs Duraludon, between the design of this dragon and Lucario whole shounen-hero persona this is one of those that I liked the anime logic of the Genki-Dama-Aura-Sphere-Power-of-Friendship-fueled moment, the shot of Greninja was so well done too.

Hoping for an exciting Master 8, happy for more Iris they should use her game theme. Alain means the XY-fandom would have their rematch; the only things I know about Diantha is from the games and is that she is famous, pretty and have a Gardevoir.
Don't care that much about Lance but maybe Clair show up to say hello, Steven could mean more Wallace (yay!) and they know they have to put Cynthia second now they have to use her theme from the games during her battle.
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That Aura Sphere looks like rasengan in Naruto XD
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May 7, 2022 3:45 PM

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Glad to see the training episode pay-off. The use of Aura can make pokemon very powerful, it seems. I'm glad that was brought up.

GakutoDeathGlare said:

- Leon
- Cynthia
- Steven
- Lance
- Diantha
- Alain
- Iris
- Ash

I wish we had seen Paul instead of Iris though.




May 8, 2022 3:21 PM

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They better start making battles take at least 2 episodes. This one felt rushed like almost all the others which is a shame but well, i only hope in the Masters 8 they make the battles last while longer and stop making the second pokemon of each trainer having a tie between themselfs.
When its 3vs3 ofc.
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May 8, 2022 8:58 PM

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Finally! Ash vs Raihan, I have been waiting for this matchup since 2020, but it didn't happen until now :B.

The Master Class has arrived, with the champions of the 8 regions (and Alan too), it makes you wonder what Paul is going to do when he returns...
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May 9, 2022 6:57 AM

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Wow!!!

Love this episode

I wish Satoshi announce as Alola League Champion!

Well.. since its first time Alola League..

🥰🥰

Cant wait to see more episode!

This time pokemon season is so good!


May 10, 2022 8:25 PM

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Oof the road to best the M8 is fierce af lol

I'm curious as to why the writers decided to give Iris another chance, though. Missed opportunity to include Paul unless something else happens with him.
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Jun 14, 2022 12:37 PM

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after episode 90 I drop this series, but recently I came to know that they reveals top 8 in ep.109 so I just watched this episode to know who are the top 8......
when this class system got introduce in pokemon journey ig in episode 14 or 15 from that time I used to believe that out of 8 trainer there is Tobias one of them...

I am not a regular pokemon watcher but you guys are in this forum so I think you guys are regular watcher of this series so can you guys tell me why Tobias is not in top 8?? I don't want to make new thread of this so I am asking here?






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Jun 14, 2022 1:04 PM

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GreyratAnimelist said:
after episode 90 I drop this series, but recently I came to know that they reveals top 8 in ep.109 so I just watched this episode to know who are the top 8......
when this class system got introduce in pokemon journey ig in episode 14 or 15 from that time I used to believe that out of 8 trainer there is Tobias one of them...

I am not a regular pokemon watcher but you guys are in this forum so I think you guys are regular watcher of this series so can you guys tell me why Tobias is not in top 8?? I don't want to make new thread of this so I am asking here?








Hi there, this my opinion:

Well, Tobias was never an important character. He literally was introduced only to stop Ash from winning the Sinnoh League. Ash's team was way too strong for the Sinnoh League and he defeated Paul (his main stepping stone) quite early. So the writers decided to pretty much bruteforce his defeat by introducing a random trainer with no background that uses legendaries in order to make Ash go to Unova. Basically you can call it very poor writing for using Tobias as a 'disguised' plot device. The fact that he never was mentioned again since then just proves my point.
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Jun 14, 2022 2:57 PM

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GreyratAnimelist said:
after episode 90 I drop this series, but recently I came to know that they reveals top 8 in ep.109 so I just watched this episode to know who are the top 8......
when this class system got introduce in pokemon journey ig in episode 14 or 15 from that time I used to believe that out of 8 trainer there is Tobias one of them...

I am not a regular pokemon watcher but you guys are in this forum so I think you guys are regular watcher of this series so can you guys tell me why Tobias is not in top 8?? I don't want to make new thread of this so I am asking here?


In-universe, Top 8 refers to the people who made it to the Top 8 rankings of the World Championship, not necessarily the 8 strongest trainers of the world. Tobias (probably) doesn't participate in it so you won't see him.

In reality, he was a plot device introduced in the Sinnoh league to ensure Ash doesn't stomp the Sinnoh league since he was the strongest there after him, evidenced by the fact that he was the only one who defeated Darkrai and then even Latios. The other 7 in the list have more depth than him.




Jun 14, 2022 11:39 PM
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GreyratAnimelist said:
after episode 90 I drop this series, but recently I came to know that they reveals top 8 in ep.109 so I just watched this episode to know who are the top 8......
when this class system got introduce in pokemon journey ig in episode 14 or 15 from that time I used to believe that out of 8 trainer there is Tobias one of them...

I am not a regular pokemon watcher but you guys are in this forum so I think you guys are regular watcher of this series so can you guys tell me why Tobias is not in top 8?? I don't want to make new thread of this so I am asking here?








Hi there, this my opinion:

Tobius is hella strong, no doubt about that. But he was not much of a character you know, I felt like he was there just to thwart Ash's tournament progression. Where there are other characters who were affiliated to Ash in a major way and helped him grow. They have better character and history with Ash where Tobius was just a one timer side character with plot armor thicker than a battleship's hull.
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Jun 15, 2022 8:16 AM

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GreyratAnimelist said:
after episode 90 I drop this series, but recently I came to know that they reveals top 8 in ep.109 so I just watched this episode to know who are the top 8......
when  this class system got introduce in pokemon journey ig in episode 14 or 15  from that time I used to believe that out of 8 trainer there is Tobias one of them...

I am not a regular pokemon watcher but you guys are in this forum so I think you guys are regular watcher of this series so can you guys tell me why Tobias is not in top 8?? I don't want to  make new thread of this so I am asking here?


If I'm not mistaken the Diamond and Pearl saga was doing great when it came to raitings and the movies were doing great too so they probably just wanted to keep using Ash for the next seasons so it's basically what Floyd, RioFS and Inert_Catalyst wrote.
Jun 15, 2022 10:18 AM

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my boi steven , yeahhhh.
they better not ruin the future episodes and make it clitchy or something 😤. Good battles are ( Animation / Tatics / On the verge of losing but come back stronger / and no bs stuff )
This fight was pretty good. I didn't criticize it as much as from the earlier episodes.
Ash won because power of friendship and plot armor. No way lucario just 1 shoted and Gengar tanking hits. ( again Plot armor) . i don't mind but!!! no way ash is gana win them all vs those champions. Yes he's good but they're better.
if he does win (somehow) its because Power of friendship and Plot armor.
I can see him wining iris , Alan (revenge for that one time) .
Aug 23, 2022 9:04 PM

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OMG!! ALAN IS RETURNING TO THE ANIME IN THE MASTER'S TOURNAMENT😳🤯😍!! Man, I can't wait for him and Ash's rematch, Greninja better be there with the battle bond form!!

The battle with Raihan was on equal level with the one with Volkner, strategizing and using battlefield moves to maximize your damage never ceases to amaze me🤟, plus Dynamax never stood a chance against the power of friendship and spirit bomb xD

This season has THE most hype out of all seasons so far becz of the insane amount of callbacks and previous characters it's bringing back.

Sep 11, 2022 1:58 PM

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Oct 28, 2022 9:37 AM
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Anime Logic Prevails !
So Lucario does a STAB + Instead of a held item, he holds all his memories inside his heart.
Also, was this a DBZ Reference in the end where The Defeat Kid Buu Using a very similarly framed Technique ?
Nov 6, 2022 3:52 AM
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Great combat, and Satoshi arrrived at.... kekeke
Nov 11, 2022 8:50 PM

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Wow, what a crazy episode. Loved the decision to switch to Kyodaimax instead of going for the more obvious Lucario Mega Evolution. It's little moments like that make some of these battles really really fun to watch. Lucario's spirit bomb was fun to see in a real battle, netting him the win to the Master's 8. And then to top it off, they revealed the whole cast for the final battles! I absolutely wasn't expecting that, I was thinking we wouldn't see until the tournament came up. It's packed with all the Champions, plus Alain which was a nice surprise! The remaining Worlds Championship is gonna be ferocious.
Nov 27, 2022 2:12 AM

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Another great battle. Honestly I was actually a little surprised that Ash won again, because at this point it really seems like Ash might just win every battle from now on. Still, it was so cool seeing him fight this time. The sudden use of gigantamax in the middle clearly showcased Ash's quick decisiveness in combat. And even without mega evolution, Lucario showed off its new aura power from last episode strongly to take home the win. The reveal of the masters eight tournament at the end was nice as well, lots of strong trainers stand ahead and lots of them familiar faces. Can't wait for the tournament!
Apr 8, 2023 11:21 AM

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Gotta say, that Goodra fight was pretty cheap. Launching 4 moves in a row (almost 5) before Gengar could even do anything? Come on, Gengar's big but that doesn't mean he's that slow! On the other hand, Goodra went down super easily with just 1 Fairy-type Max move, so... balance?
Apr 12, 2023 9:42 PM

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Kibana deserved better but I knew it would happen. Ash has to be the champion after all.

But damn Lucario really stole Goku's spirit bomb xD
Jun 13, 2023 8:22 AM
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Such a good battle episode!
Mar 5, 2024 3:16 AM

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Lucario defeated the building construction with a genkidama lol

I'm looking forward to seeing the battle of the top 8
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feel the battle was a bit artificial.

I liked how Ash gave up on Mega Lucario for Gigantamax Gengar. but the battle just ended up too quickly.

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