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Which of the following options is does represent your politics the closest?
Right
21.7%
61
Center-Right
26.7%
75
Center-Left
27.4%
77
Left
24.2%
68
281 votes
Sep 20, 2022 1:30 PM
#1
| The reactions to my recent thread made me curious and I'd like to see if my assumption is correct. Feel free to discuss, but the main purpose of this thread is the poll. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Sep 20, 2022 1:39 PM
#3
| And so you know most responses of your previous post were from edgy teens that want to be different and cool, not politically motivated reasons. |
Sep 20, 2022 1:42 PM
#4
| What is your assumption tho? I wanna see if my assumption about you is right aswell. |
Sep 20, 2022 1:45 PM
#5
GarouWolf said: What is your assumption tho? I wanna see if my assumption about you is right aswell. I'm betting extreme authoritarian right. |
Sep 20, 2022 1:52 PM
#6
RogerCop said: GarouWolf said: What is your assumption tho? I wanna see if my assumption about you is right aswell. I'm betting extreme authoritarian right. So that is his assumption? That would make my assumption right aswell, ty. |
Sep 20, 2022 1:55 PM
#7
GarouWolf said: RogerCop said: GarouWolf said: What is your assumption tho? I wanna see if my assumption about you is right aswell. I'm betting extreme authoritarian right. So that is his assumption? That would make my assumption right aswell, ty. I don't know, but it only seems fitting has his responses from the previous post had a lot of edgy teens undermining humans has a living being. It was an overlord thread. |
Sep 20, 2022 1:56 PM
#8
| left - right isn't a great metric authoritarian left libertarian left authoritarian right libertarian left would be much better |
Sep 20, 2022 1:56 PM
#9
RogerCop said: GarouWolf said: RogerCop said: GarouWolf said: What is your assumption tho? I wanna see if my assumption about you is right aswell. I'm betting extreme authoritarian right. So that is his assumption? That would make my assumption right aswell, ty. I don't know, but it only seems fitting has his responses from the previous post had a lot of edgy teens undermining humans has a living being. It was an overlord thread. People have a lot of trouble of separating real life from fiction it seems, both sides. |
Sep 20, 2022 1:58 PM
#10
GarouWolf said: RogerCop said: GarouWolf said: RogerCop said: GarouWolf said: What is your assumption tho? I wanna see if my assumption about you is right aswell. I'm betting extreme authoritarian right. So that is his assumption? That would make my assumption right aswell, ty. I don't know, but it only seems fitting has his responses from the previous post had a lot of edgy teens undermining humans has a living being. It was an overlord thread. People have a lot of trouble of separating real life from fiction it seems, both sides. Both sides end up being the same after you went too far. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:00 PM
#11
| Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... |
Sep 20, 2022 2:02 PM
#12
MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:04 PM
#13
RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... |
Sep 20, 2022 2:07 PM
#14
MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:14 PM
#16
Obscure_Chad said: I think that fries goes well with cheeseburgers Only if it's with ketchup. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:26 PM
#17
Sep 20, 2022 2:28 PM
#18
Old_Greggu said: When making polls, should have an option for those who just want to see results, non affiliated. What are you? A centrist? |
Sep 20, 2022 2:31 PM
#19
RogerCop said: Old_Greggu said: When making polls, should have an option for those who just want to see results, non affiliated. What are you? A centrist? No centrists side with both, which should be an option, anti-centrist is where it’s at though. Any Jreg fans here? |
Sep 20, 2022 2:34 PM
#20
Old_Greggu said: RogerCop said: Old_Greggu said: When making polls, should have an option for those who just want to see results, non affiliated. What are you? A centrist? No centrists side with both, which should be an option, anti-centrist is where it’s at though. Any Jreg fans here? Center right 15 Left 14 Center left 12 Right 9 The results |
Sep 20, 2022 2:41 PM
#21
Old_Greggu said: RogerCop said: Old_Greggu said: When making polls, should have an option for those who just want to see results, non affiliated. What are you? A centrist? No centrists side with both, which should be an option, anti-centrist is where it’s at though. Any Jreg fans here? Jreg is kind of leaning for libertarian right side. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:49 PM
#22
| None I hate politics but absolutely love Overlord and its politics. |
| As Long as the Sun, the moon, and the Earth exist, everything will be alright. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:50 PM
#23
RogerCop said: Old_Greggu said: RogerCop said: Old_Greggu said: When making polls, should have an option for those who just want to see results, non affiliated. What are you? A centrist? No centrists side with both, which should be an option, anti-centrist is where it’s at though. Any Jreg fans here? Center right 15 Left 14 Center left 12 Right 9 The results Shocking amount of nazis here on this sub-forum. But it's what I expected after a thread filled with "I enjoy watching people getting murdered with ease". |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:51 PM
#24
MyllerPhiem said: RogerCop said: Old_Greggu said: RogerCop said: Old_Greggu said: When making polls, should have an option for those who just want to see results, non affiliated. What are you? A centrist? No centrists side with both, which should be an option, anti-centrist is where it’s at though. Any Jreg fans here? Center right 15 Left 14 Center left 12 Right 9 The results Shocking amount of nazis here on this sub-forum. But it's what I expected after a thread filled with "I enjoy watching people getting murdered with ease". Did you lie about your age? Because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:52 PM
#25
EggoGBones said: None I hate politics but absolutely love Overlord and its politics. May I recommend human history, I believe overlord was inspired by it. |
Sep 20, 2022 2:58 PM
#26
RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. I can argue with this. :D That's only works if we have the BEST possible education system EVERYWHERE on the planet, which sounds like an utopia. :D If you let everyone do anything in fiction, then it is possible to "teach" bad things through fiction. If someone had bad education, he could believe what he learnt from the show. Let's say the show teaches everyone to murder their neighbor and offer his body to a God. If someone can't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or understand the concept in the show and he believe it, then it could be really bad. You can't separate fiction from reality, because fiction's concepts based on reality and fiction's ideas could form reality. With your idea, you would actually make incitement legal. As for your view about left, doesn't the utopian concept, itself, make you fight for it? Or doesn't the history prove that it was the right way? I mean compared to like the 18th centuries we definitely shifted towards a more liberal and more left oriented world. I work in IT and lot of ideas what you can find on left right now are quite realistic, but I don't consider myself leftist. :D |
Sep 20, 2022 3:04 PM
#27
ktg said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. I can argue with this. :D That's only works if we have the BEST possible education system EVERYWHERE on the planet, which sounds like an utopia. :D If you let everyone do anything in fiction, then it is possible to "teach" bad things through fiction. If someone had bad education, he could believe what he learnt from the show. Let's say the show teaches everyone to murder their neighbor and offer his body to a God. If someone can't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or understand the concept in the show and he believe it, then it could be really bad. You can't separate fiction from reality, because fiction's concepts based on reality and fiction's ideas could form reality. With your idea, you would actually make incitement legal. As for your view about left, doesn't the utopian concept, itself, make you fight for it? Or doesn't the history prove that it was the right way? I mean compared to like the 18th centuries we definitely shifted towards a more liberal and more left oriented world. I work in IT and lot of ideas what you can find on left right now are quite realistic, but I don't consider myself leftist. :D Then it comes the question, should we restrict freedom of speech by an arbitrary line for sick people incapable of distinction between reality or fiction, or should we allow unrestricted freedom of speech and punish the ones who can't see the difference, punishment being the law system. I don't think we should be fighting for a utopia since our humanity simply won't allow it, making the only possible way to create utopia being through extreme authoritarianism, wich I'm not a big fan. And you say that we live in better conditions, while physically you're correct, mentally we are in one of the worst times in history, so no I don't agree with the left. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:08 PM
#28
ktg said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. I can argue with this. :D That's only works if we have the BEST possible education system EVERYWHERE on the planet, which sounds like an utopia. :D If you let everyone do anything in fiction, then it is possible to "teach" bad things through fiction. If someone had bad education, he could believe what he learnt from the show. Let's say the show teaches everyone to murder their neighbor and offer his body to a God. If someone can't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or understand the concept in the show and he believe it, then it could be really bad. You can't separate fiction from reality, because fiction's concepts based on reality and fiction's ideas could form reality. With your idea, you would actually make incitement legal. As for your view about left, doesn't the utopian concept, itself, make you fight for it? Or doesn't the history prove that it was the right way? I mean compared to like the 18th centuries we definitely shifted towards a more liberal and more left oriented world. I work in IT and lot of ideas what you can find on left right now are quite realistic, but I don't consider myself leftist. :D And you're correct the world is a lot more left leaning, but that doesn't really matter, because left final ideas are based around anarchy or communism, something that goes against human nature itself that being the wish to gain more, and those will never work. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:10 PM
#29
ktg said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. I can argue with this. :D That's only works if we have the BEST possible education system EVERYWHERE on the planet, which sounds like an utopia. :D If you let everyone do anything in fiction, then it is possible to "teach" bad things through fiction. If someone had bad education, he could believe what he learnt from the show. Let's say the show teaches everyone to murder their neighbor and offer his body to a God. If someone can't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or understand the concept in the show and he believe it, then it could be really bad. You can't separate fiction from reality, because fiction's concepts based on reality and fiction's ideas could form reality. With your idea, you would actually make incitement legal. As for your view about left, doesn't the utopian concept, itself, make you fight for it? Or doesn't the history prove that it was the right way? I mean compared to like the 18th centuries we definitely shifted towards a more liberal and more left oriented world. I work in IT and lot of ideas what you can find on left right now are quite realistic, but I don't consider myself leftist. :D And those ideas you're talking about are based on progressive politics, and that branch is very big, so you're going to need to specify. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:12 PM
#30
Sep 20, 2022 3:16 PM
#31
RogerCop said: ktg said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. I can argue with this. :D That's only works if we have the BEST possible education system EVERYWHERE on the planet, which sounds like an utopia. :D If you let everyone do anything in fiction, then it is possible to "teach" bad things through fiction. If someone had bad education, he could believe what he learnt from the show. Let's say the show teaches everyone to murder their neighbor and offer his body to a God. If someone can't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or understand the concept in the show and he believe it, then it could be really bad. You can't separate fiction from reality, because fiction's concepts based on reality and fiction's ideas could form reality. With your idea, you would actually make incitement legal. As for your view about left, doesn't the utopian concept, itself, make you fight for it? Or doesn't the history prove that it was the right way? I mean compared to like the 18th centuries we definitely shifted towards a more liberal and more left oriented world. I work in IT and lot of ideas what you can find on left right now are quite realistic, but I don't consider myself leftist. :D Then it comes the question, should we restrict freedom of speech by an arbitrary line for sick people incapable of distinction between reality or fiction, or should we allow unrestricted freedom of speech and punish the ones who can't see the difference, punishment being the law system. I don't think we should be fighting for a utopia since our humanity simply won't allow it, making the only possible way to create utopia being through extreme authoritarianism, wich I'm not a big fan. And you say that we live in better conditions, while physically you're correct, mentally we are in one of the worst times in history, so no I don't agree with the left. But we don't talk about small amount of people here. Let's just look at USA right now. The republicans and democrats say completely different things. Both sides cannot be right and yet they have similar number of voters. The thing is currently it's much more safer to restrict freedom of speech. Because in America we talk about 2 similar sized blocks, but I know countries where the "wrong" people are actually the majority. And yes, they, without a doubt, burn your house to the ground if their politicians would say so. (And it still sounds like you want to make incitement legal. :D ) Why wouldn't humanity allow it? If everyone is perfectly educated then everyone would vote for the best option. So everyone would vote for one party. I mean I assumed you were talking about our election systems. And how are we mentally one of the worst, when 200 years ago every second person was crazy, had PTSD or some other shit? We have a mentally much stable generation. And mostly because we actually somewhat care about mental health. EDIT: Please, reply in a comment, reacting like this is much harder. :D No, there is no unified goal, like communism on the left. Because then I could say the right is about dictatorship but under corporates or they want kings again. I'll give examples then, 4 day working week, unconditional basic income. These are pretty realistic goals. |
ktgSep 20, 2022 3:21 PM
Sep 20, 2022 3:17 PM
#32
RogerCop said: EggoGBones said: None I hate politics but absolutely love Overlord and its politics. May I recommend human history, I believe overlord was inspired by it. Yeah I like history I'm just not a fan of politics. I know Overlord isn't the most original but I really enjoy it personally. |
| As Long as the Sun, the moon, and the Earth exist, everything will be alright. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:24 PM
#33
ktg said: RogerCop said: ktg said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. I can argue with this. :D That's only works if we have the BEST possible education system EVERYWHERE on the planet, which sounds like an utopia. :D If you let everyone do anything in fiction, then it is possible to "teach" bad things through fiction. If someone had bad education, he could believe what he learnt from the show. Let's say the show teaches everyone to murder their neighbor and offer his body to a God. If someone can't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or understand the concept in the show and he believe it, then it could be really bad. You can't separate fiction from reality, because fiction's concepts based on reality and fiction's ideas could form reality. With your idea, you would actually make incitement legal. As for your view about left, doesn't the utopian concept, itself, make you fight for it? Or doesn't the history prove that it was the right way? I mean compared to like the 18th centuries we definitely shifted towards a more liberal and more left oriented world. I work in IT and lot of ideas what you can find on left right now are quite realistic, but I don't consider myself leftist. :D Then it comes the question, should we restrict freedom of speech by an arbitrary line for sick people incapable of distinction between reality or fiction, or should we allow unrestricted freedom of speech and punish the ones who can't see the difference, punishment being the law system. I don't think we should be fighting for a utopia since our humanity simply won't allow it, making the only possible way to create utopia being through extreme authoritarianism, wich I'm not a big fan. And you say that we live in better conditions, while physically you're correct, mentally we are in one of the worst times in history, so no I don't agree with the left. But we don't talk about small amount of people here. Let's just look at USA right now. The republicans and democrats say completely different things. Both sides cannot be right and yet they have similar number of voters. The thing is currently it's much more safer to restrict freedom of speech. Because in America we talk about 2 similar sized blocks, but I know countries where the "wrong" people are actually the majority. And yes, they, without a doubt, burn your house to the ground if their politicians would say so. (And it still sounds like you want to make incitement legal. :D ) Why wouldn't humanity allow it? If everyone is perfectly educated then everyone would vote for the best option. So everyone would vote for one party. I mean I assumed you were talking about our election systems. And how are we mentally one of the worst, when 200 years ago every second person was crazy, had PTSD or some other shit? We have a mentally much stable generation. And mostly because we actually somewhat care about mental health. EDIT: Please, reply in a comment, reacting like this is much harder. :D No, there is no unified goal, like communism on the left. Because then I could say the right is about dictatorship but under corporates or they want kings again. I'll give examples then, 4 day working week, unconditional basic income. These are pretty realistic goals. I was referring to the world, but using USA has an example, you should know that those people you're talking about are very much in the minority and that I was referring to purely fictional regions, so the incentive to cause real world damage is not something I support since it's no longer fictional. That education you're talking about is really starting to sound like 1984,but that aside there's no perfect education since every individual is different and those kind of wishes will stay whishes since people aren't robots. And you should know about the suicide statistics, we are more alone than ever even with unprecedented numbers, we lack purpose, the world is dying and we're fully aware of it... We're very bad mentally and your health isn't going to save it, but only help it like a medication not cure it. Edit: That's why I said either communism or anarchy, and you do know that communism wouldn't work because it would require someone above all to oversee everything and that on its own breaks the idea of no classes. And that example in communism is pretty bad since we don't all work the same job, some are doctors others cashiers, and they won't be able to work the way you are stating. |
RGS-3Sep 20, 2022 3:29 PM
Sep 20, 2022 3:25 PM
#34
EggoGBones said: RogerCop said: EggoGBones said: None I hate politics but absolutely love Overlord and its politics. May I recommend human history, I believe overlord was inspired by it. Yeah I like history I'm just not a fan of politics. I know Overlord isn't the most original but I really enjoy it personally. I'm just saying that medieval times politics are quite fun to learn. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:28 PM
#35
Sep 20, 2022 3:29 PM
#36
RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. I think he made this post because of you. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:31 PM
#37
RogerCop said: RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. I think he made this post because of you. Why would you think so? |
Sep 20, 2022 3:31 PM
#38
Deknijff said: Fuck I honestly don't know, Id consider myself very much on the left but I always vote right because the left is run by crazy people in my country Extremists are a real pain, but I guess you should choose center left. |
RGS-3Sep 20, 2022 3:35 PM
Sep 20, 2022 3:32 PM
#39
RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. I think he made this post because of you. Why would you think so? Forget it I confused you with someone else. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:36 PM
#40
RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. No, I think enjoying the sight of people being brutally murdered is terrible no matter if its fictional or not. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:36 PM
#41
RogerCop said: RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. I think he made this post because of you. Why would you think so? Forget it I confused you with someone else. I remember stating facts there but I don't remember being edgy. Checked it now and turns out I'm right. Although if OP really did perceive me as edgy and made a post about the political affiliations of people despite the two(this post and my comment) not having much of a relationship with each other, then... I dunno what to say. Feels weird, ngl. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:36 PM
#42
RogerCop said: ktg said: RogerCop said: ktg said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. I can argue with this. :D That's only works if we have the BEST possible education system EVERYWHERE on the planet, which sounds like an utopia. :D If you let everyone do anything in fiction, then it is possible to "teach" bad things through fiction. If someone had bad education, he could believe what he learnt from the show. Let's say the show teaches everyone to murder their neighbor and offer his body to a God. If someone can't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or understand the concept in the show and he believe it, then it could be really bad. You can't separate fiction from reality, because fiction's concepts based on reality and fiction's ideas could form reality. With your idea, you would actually make incitement legal. As for your view about left, doesn't the utopian concept, itself, make you fight for it? Or doesn't the history prove that it was the right way? I mean compared to like the 18th centuries we definitely shifted towards a more liberal and more left oriented world. I work in IT and lot of ideas what you can find on left right now are quite realistic, but I don't consider myself leftist. :D Then it comes the question, should we restrict freedom of speech by an arbitrary line for sick people incapable of distinction between reality or fiction, or should we allow unrestricted freedom of speech and punish the ones who can't see the difference, punishment being the law system. I don't think we should be fighting for a utopia since our humanity simply won't allow it, making the only possible way to create utopia being through extreme authoritarianism, wich I'm not a big fan. And you say that we live in better conditions, while physically you're correct, mentally we are in one of the worst times in history, so no I don't agree with the left. But we don't talk about small amount of people here. Let's just look at USA right now. The republicans and democrats say completely different things. Both sides cannot be right and yet they have similar number of voters. The thing is currently it's much more safer to restrict freedom of speech. Because in America we talk about 2 similar sized blocks, but I know countries where the "wrong" people are actually the majority. And yes, they, without a doubt, burn your house to the ground if their politicians would say so. (And it still sounds like you want to make incitement legal. :D ) Why wouldn't humanity allow it? If everyone is perfectly educated then everyone would vote for the best option. So everyone would vote for one party. I mean I assumed you were talking about our election systems. And how are we mentally one of the worst, when 200 years ago every second person was crazy, had PTSD or some other shit? We have a mentally much stable generation. And mostly because we actually somewhat care about mental health. EDIT: Please, reply in a comment, reacting like this is much harder. :D No, there is no unified goal, like communism on the left. Because then I could say the right is about dictatorship but under corporates or they want kings again. I'll give examples then, 4 day working week, unconditional basic income. These are pretty realistic goals. I was referring to the world, but using USA has an example, you should know that those people you're talking about are very much in the minority and that I was referring to purely fictional regions, so the incentive to cause real world damage is not something I support since it's no longer fictional. That education you're talking about is really starting to sound like 1984,but that aside there's no perfect education since every individual is different and those kind of wishes will stay whishes since people aren't robots. And you should know about the suicide statistics, we are more alone than ever even with unprecedented numbers, we lack purpose, the world is dying and we're fully aware of it... We're very bad mentally and your health isn't going to save it, but only help it like a medication not cure it. But you can't separate fiction from reality. Because fiction affects reality in every way. You mentioned suicide. There are shows about suicide and if the show introduce a new point of view or new argument about suicide, then you could use it in a real life. What is wrong with that education? In elections there is always a best option, if everyone could perfectly understand the situation, then everyone would vote for the best option. Suicide statistics are like nothing compared to what war did to the human mind. And war actually affected everyone, because it was everywhere. We are still far the most mentally health generation. (If we lack purpose, then a dream, a goal like a utopian goal could help humanity. You know, the one that you don't like. :DD ) |
Sep 20, 2022 3:37 PM
#43
RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. I think he made this post because of you. Why would you think so? Forget it I confused you with someone else. I remember stating facts there but I don't remember being edgy. Checked it now and turns out I'm right. Although if OP really did perceive me as edgy and made a post about the political affiliations of people despite the two(this post and my comment) not having much of a relationship with each other, then... I dunno what to say. Feels weird, ngl. Yeah, I just confused you with someone else. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:38 PM
#44
MyllerPhiem said: RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. No, I think enjoying the sight of people being brutally murdered is terrible no matter if its fictional or not. No, they both are different. One is ACTUALLY terrible while the other isn't. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:38 PM
#45
RogerCop said: Sadly can't vote center left in my country because that party is run by Annie Lööf who is so mentally retarded she can't even debate a complete moron like Jordan like when she was on TV with him Deknijff said: Extremists are a real pain, but I guess you should vote center left.Fuck I honestly don't know, Id consider myself very much on the left but I always vote right because the left is run by crazy people in my country |
Sep 20, 2022 3:38 PM
#46
RogerCop said: RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. I think he made this post because of you. Why would you think so? Forget it I confused you with someone else. I remember stating facts there but I don't remember being edgy. Checked it now and turns out I'm right. Although if OP really did perceive me as edgy and made a post about the political affiliations of people despite the two(this post and my comment) not having much of a relationship with each other, then... I dunno what to say. Feels weird, ngl. Yeah, I just confused you with someone else. I am curious though, who was it? |
Sep 20, 2022 3:41 PM
#47
| What's the point of this? Can you enjoy the show for its lore and characters? |
Sep 20, 2022 3:42 PM
#48
ktg said: RogerCop said: ktg said: RogerCop said: ktg said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: RogerCop said: MxrcoH1Ibxr said: Tf is wrong with you?? XD Animes and politics k bro get a life... Imagine taking everything seriously....... Animes are getting quite political nowadays, with the Lolis and tr*ps, not sure if it's allowed to say the word here. Bruh it's fictional not even real.... Think about that, whats going on in real life??.... Please and people thinking about fictional politics standards.... K Bro...... Everything is political, your freedom included, I'm libertarian because I believe that there should be no restrictions in fictional art, but there are many more authoritarian leaning people that believe there should be a line. I'm only from the right since I disagree with many of the left opinions, simply look too utopian for me, unrealistic if you will. I can argue with this. :D That's only works if we have the BEST possible education system EVERYWHERE on the planet, which sounds like an utopia. :D If you let everyone do anything in fiction, then it is possible to "teach" bad things through fiction. If someone had bad education, he could believe what he learnt from the show. Let's say the show teaches everyone to murder their neighbor and offer his body to a God. If someone can't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or understand the concept in the show and he believe it, then it could be really bad. You can't separate fiction from reality, because fiction's concepts based on reality and fiction's ideas could form reality. With your idea, you would actually make incitement legal. As for your view about left, doesn't the utopian concept, itself, make you fight for it? Or doesn't the history prove that it was the right way? I mean compared to like the 18th centuries we definitely shifted towards a more liberal and more left oriented world. I work in IT and lot of ideas what you can find on left right now are quite realistic, but I don't consider myself leftist. :D Then it comes the question, should we restrict freedom of speech by an arbitrary line for sick people incapable of distinction between reality or fiction, or should we allow unrestricted freedom of speech and punish the ones who can't see the difference, punishment being the law system. I don't think we should be fighting for a utopia since our humanity simply won't allow it, making the only possible way to create utopia being through extreme authoritarianism, wich I'm not a big fan. And you say that we live in better conditions, while physically you're correct, mentally we are in one of the worst times in history, so no I don't agree with the left. But we don't talk about small amount of people here. Let's just look at USA right now. The republicans and democrats say completely different things. Both sides cannot be right and yet they have similar number of voters. The thing is currently it's much more safer to restrict freedom of speech. Because in America we talk about 2 similar sized blocks, but I know countries where the "wrong" people are actually the majority. And yes, they, without a doubt, burn your house to the ground if their politicians would say so. (And it still sounds like you want to make incitement legal. :D ) Why wouldn't humanity allow it? If everyone is perfectly educated then everyone would vote for the best option. So everyone would vote for one party. I mean I assumed you were talking about our election systems. And how are we mentally one of the worst, when 200 years ago every second person was crazy, had PTSD or some other shit? We have a mentally much stable generation. And mostly because we actually somewhat care about mental health. EDIT: Please, reply in a comment, reacting like this is much harder. :D No, there is no unified goal, like communism on the left. Because then I could say the right is about dictatorship but under corporates or they want kings again. I'll give examples then, 4 day working week, unconditional basic income. These are pretty realistic goals. I was referring to the world, but using USA has an example, you should know that those people you're talking about are very much in the minority and that I was referring to purely fictional regions, so the incentive to cause real world damage is not something I support since it's no longer fictional. That education you're talking about is really starting to sound like 1984,but that aside there's no perfect education since every individual is different and those kind of wishes will stay whishes since people aren't robots. And you should know about the suicide statistics, we are more alone than ever even with unprecedented numbers, we lack purpose, the world is dying and we're fully aware of it... We're very bad mentally and your health isn't going to save it, but only help it like a medication not cure it. But you can't separate fiction from reality. Because fiction affects reality in every way. You mentioned suicide. There are shows about suicide and if the show introduce a new point of view or new argument about suicide, then you could use it in a real life. What is wrong with that education? In elections there is always a best option, if everyone could perfectly understand the situation, then everyone would vote for the best option. Suicide statistics are like nothing compared to what war did to the human mind. And war actually affected everyone, because it was everywhere. We are still far the most mentally health generation. (If we lack purpose, then a dream, a goal like a utopian goal could help humanity. You know, the one that you don't like. :DD ) Arguments and incitives are very different, that aside those fictional projects won't be able to do any harm to any sane person so it doesn't matter either way. I'll simply say that your best option isn't the best option for everyone. War is very much a recent event so it kind of proves my point about left progression, that aside you still can't see that the problems right now aren't physical but psychological, people feel little and unimportant, they feel depressed and want to end everything, it's simple this is a bad consequence. And why the :D it really doesn't feel appropriate for these topics. |
Sep 20, 2022 3:43 PM
#49
Deknijff said: RogerCop said: Sadly can't vote center left in my country because that party is run by Annie Lööf who is so mentally retarded she can't even debate a complete moron like Jordan like when she was on TV with him Deknijff said: Fuck I honestly don't know, Id consider myself very much on the left but I always vote right because the left is run by crazy people in my country I was talking about the poll, in your country I would just recommend voting for the opposing side with more votes so that you can better avoid the left to win. |
RGS-3Sep 20, 2022 3:51 PM
Sep 20, 2022 3:44 PM
#50
RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: RogerCop said: RioFS said: Crazy how OP still thinks people dying in a work of fiction is equivalent to people dying in real life. I think he made this post because of you. Why would you think so? Forget it I confused you with someone else. I remember stating facts there but I don't remember being edgy. Checked it now and turns out I'm right. Although if OP really did perceive me as edgy and made a post about the political affiliations of people despite the two(this post and my comment) not having much of a relationship with each other, then... I dunno what to say. Feels weird, ngl. Yeah, I just confused you with someone else. I am curious though, who was it? I don't really know, you can see the thread for yourself it's quite recent, but I think it was just some eddy people that wanted to seem different. |
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