Genocide

Sep 29, 2022 8:00 AM

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weirdissimo

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Ainz said its to make that kingdom an example of messing with the Sorcerer Kingdom

Sep 29, 2022 8:04 AM

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SuntProstMare

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it's for the other kindoms, so they wont thread him like he is weak, and for make clear that everyone Who mess with him will die

Sep 29, 2022 8:24 AM

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CoronelCuddles

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In Ains reasoning, destroying that kingdom would make it an example to the others. if you defy the sorcerer king, death and destruction will befall unto you and your people. This would make the conquest of other kingdoms easier since they would not dare to oppose ains.

Sep 29, 2022 8:28 AM

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MusashiKarlsefni

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The whole carrot and the stick thing, not adapting volumes 12 & 13 probably confused a lot of anime only’s. Their aid to the Holy Kingdom was the “carrot” part, they accepted the Sorcerer Kingdom and asked them for help so Ainz gave it. Re-Estize was used as an example for the rest of the Countries of what Ainz will do to those who don’t accept their rule, oppose them, or fuck them over.

Sep 29, 2022 8:29 AM

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Som3one_

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+The ruins of the capital last for a long time which works as a reminder in the future

Sep 29, 2022 8:31 AM

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F9s

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Like the show said, its meant to be an example of what happens to anyone who dares go against or earn the ire of the Sorcerer Kingdom.

Besides, its not like they killed literally everyone. In episode 11, they had the Eight Fingers gather about 1000 people of their choosing to spare.

Sep 29, 2022 9:15 AM

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Toxic_Hollow

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define "better" to rule over. like as a Litch myself I'd be wayy nicer I'd everyone was dead and I'd just have an eternal kingdom of zombies

Sep 29, 2022 10:04 AM

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UltimateKai

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Well they skipped 2 novels showing the carrot which will come in the movie. So the carnage of the kingdom really felt ‘earned’ given chronological order of events. Buildup and ‘goodwill’ (using that term liberally) with the holy kingdom and then move on to the re estize kingdom where it’s back to being the villain.

Sep 29, 2022 10:06 AM

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bushman66 said:
What was the real reason for the planned Genocide, surely it wasn't just for the missing shipments.
Would it not have been better to rule over a Kingdom of People rather than a destroyed City. How many survived?? Just the few who bowed down to him??
Maybe i missed the actual reason.

Forget what the other comments are telling you. The answer is quite simple. The author is writing Ainz as a villain and is letting him do all kinds of evil things so that the reader slowly starts to hate him. I think that he has plans to end the story with Ainz getting killed be a hero.

Sep 29, 2022 11:20 AM

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thunderkitten13

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It was just to teach other kingdoms not to mess with Ainz, but it kinda is a dumb reason because people resisted the old Gods when they were tyrannical, of course they’ll rise against Ainz. It’s kinda stupid plot point but I stopped using my brain after the this arc because it doesn’t really get better in the LN.

Sep 29, 2022 11:23 AM

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thunderkitten13

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Decader said:

bushman66 said:
What was the real reason for the planned Genocide, surely it wasn't just for the missing shipments.
Would it not have been better to rule over a Kingdom of People rather than a destroyed City. How many survived?? Just the few who bowed down to him??
Maybe i missed the actual reason.

Forget what the other comments are telling you. The answer is quite simple. The author is writing Ainz as a villain and is letting him do all kinds of evil things so that the reader slowly starts to hate him. I think that he has plans to end the story with Ainz getting killed be a hero.

Well, I agree the author is making Ainz into a villain (which is the most cliche thing in the world, and a letdown for me at least) but I doubt anything exists that can kill Ainz currently. He just has so much defense and attack capability, Maruyama would have to pull World Items out of make believe to even given anyone/anything a chance.

Sep 29, 2022 12:35 PM

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Rui_Rei

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What was the real reason for the planned Genocide?

Answer:

My Personal Individual Take:

(i) Princess Renner used Nazarick

(ii) Ainz going along with Demiurge (and Albedo) when he had no idea what Demiurge (and Albedo) thought he wanted / expected them to do.

Sep 29, 2022 1:12 PM

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RioFS

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Like others have said, to make an example of what happens when you mess with the Sorcerer Kingdom, and contrast it with the Baharuth Empire. Carrot and stick.

thunderkitten667 said:

Decader said:

Forget what the other comments are telling you. The answer is quite simple. The author is writing Ainz as a villain and is letting him do all kinds of evil things so that the reader slowly starts to hate him. I think that he has plans to end the story with Ainz getting killed be a hero.

Well, I agree the author is making Ainz into a villain (which is the most cliche thing in the world, and a letdown for me at least) but I doubt anything exists that can kill Ainz currently. He just has so much defense and attack capability, Maruyama would have to pull World Items out of make believe to even given anyone/anything a chance.

Pretty sure he has always been a villain. Not just since S4.

Sep 29, 2022 1:24 PM

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thunderkitten13

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RioFS said:
Like others have said, to make an example of what happens when you mess with the Sorcerer Kingdom, and contrast it with the Baharuth Empire. Carrot and stick.

thunderkitten667 said:

Well, I agree the author is making Ainz into a villain (which is the most cliche thing in the world, and a letdown for me at least) but I doubt anything exists that can kill Ainz currently. He just has so much defense and attack capability, Maruyama would have to pull World Items out of make believe to even given anyone/anything a chance.

Pretty sure he has always been a villain. Not just since S4.

I thought there would be more inner conflict with his humanity and his Overlord persona, but so far his humanity has practically been ignored.

Sep 29, 2022 1:26 PM

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thunderkitten667 said:

RioFS said:
Like others have said, to make an example of what happens when you mess with the Sorcerer Kingdom, and contrast it with the Baharuth Empire. Carrot and stick.

Pretty sure he has always been a villain. Not just since S4.

I thought there would be more inner conflict with his humanity and his Overlord persona, but so far his humanity has practically been ignored.

Either it has been ignored by Madhouse while adapting it or it was never there to begin with. In the first place, they never even animated Ainz's backstory. That's essential to any conflict.

Sep 29, 2022 1:49 PM

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Piromysl

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To send the message to anyone, who in the future who would consider messing with Sorcerer Kingdom.
That's literally it.
Ains didn't took any sick satisfaction from murdering innocent people. He was even planning to invade without murdering civilians, but he jokingly said out loud, that he will.
The running joke of the series kicked in and his minion misinterpreted that and went all "SASUGA AINS SAMA!", so genocide it is.

I'm just glad all those innocent people being killed happened entirely off screen, because we didn't wanted to see this. At least I didn't.

Sep 29, 2022 3:25 PM

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The world will know more about Sorcerer kingdom, possibly attract any powerful Player like him to stop him. And as you can see it did attract the Dragon Lord.

Sep 29, 2022 3:43 PM

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mavericko said:
The world will know more about Sorcerer kingdom, possibly attract any powerful Player like him to stop him. And as you can see it did attract the Dragon Lord.

as his goal in the first place, spread ainz ooal gown's name, so other player and his former guildmates can find him.

Sep 29, 2022 9:13 PM

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zaza1234

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The anime does not do a great job of explaining the world. There are a lot of countries
The Slane theocracy and the Holy kingdom for example but anime actually mixes these up a couple of times and the holy kingdom is not to be confused with re-estize or the empire. There are other smaller kingdoms as well so by destroying re-estize he is sending a message to all of them however the anime does not show as much of the other nations and their goals

Sep 30, 2022 1:47 AM

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F9s

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zaza1234 said:
The anime does not do a great job of explaining the world. There are a lot of countries
The Slane theocracy and the Holy kingdom for example but anime actually mixes these up a couple of times and the holy kingdom is not to be confused with re-estize or the empire. There are other smaller kingdoms as well so by destroying re-estize he is sending a message to all of them however the anime does not show as much of the other nations and their goals

Tbf, that was actually a translation error. Funny enough, I watched the dub version of the episode and they correctly said Holy Kingdom instead of Theocracy so really, blame the translations.

Sep 30, 2022 5:14 AM

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WQAzi

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bushman66 said:
What was the real reason for the planned Genocide, surely it wasn't just for the missing shipments.
Would it not have been better to rule over a Kingdom of People rather than a destroyed City. How many survived?? Just the few who bowed down to him??
Maybe i missed the actual reason.

we can say he made an example for the rest of the world ,so he won't have do to anything like that in near future n ppl would just follow them quietly knowing his power

Oct 1, 2022 5:58 AM

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entert

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Who did it better ainz or slime

Nov 4, 2022 3:32 AM

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SofiaBulga

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Real reason?
It's made pretty clear, the empire bowed, while the kingdom unintentionally spat on the MC. So the kingdom was made in to an example, of what not to do.

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