Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
| It seems Evangelion fandom hates the Re:Zero most, i can't blame them actually for not accepting superior series in every possible way. I mean if I was Evangelion fan I would be cry because Re:Zero basically does everything better even without focusing it. Okeanix said: I mean I can understand why Evangelion fans dislike Re:Zero so much. They have main character like Shinji which they value most but Re:Zero has god-tier main character like Subaru which has best character development, motivations, depth and so more. Subaru's goals, motivations, backstory and everything is executed better. Psychological aspect which Evangelion fans like most is unfortunately inferior to Re:Zero every way. This is mostly because Evangelion psychology is more focused on depression but psychology is not simple thing to reduce that. Re:Zero does this amazingly, every character has their own unique problems, depth and each one of them requires special psychological approach. We can understand why Psychologists like Re:Zero more than Evangelion because Re:Zero is more realistic in actual human psychology. Re:Zero wins. Suspense aspect of Evangelion is inferior to Re:Zero, we know Shinji has plot armor pretty much but Subaru doesn't have plot armor. Yes he can't die permanently but that doesn't prevent you to see so many deaths and possibility of no-return. I'm not watching Evangelion and expect some angel kill Shinji in first 10 episodes but I can expect Subaru or other cast die in most horrible way every episode. Re:Zero wins. Action aspect of Evangelion is my opinion also inferior to Re:Zero. Re:Zero is unique fantasy series has its own power system, Evangelion is just mecha action and not even mechas in Evangelion are special. They don't have custom attacks or something you understand me. Action in evangelion is super flat not just inferior to Re:Zero but pretty much inferior to everything. Character Cast in Evangelion is again too inferior compared to Re:Zero, Re:Zero has over 50+ unique characters each othem has their own depth, motivations, goals, psychology, development through too many books & seasons. Re:Zero easily wins. Drama is very subjective but I didn't attached to any character in Evangelion because they are simply same to me, they have same problems, they have same psychological issues. Even though Re:Zero characters are fantasy-born they are somehow more relatable and attachable then Evangelion characters which born in place similar to real-world somehow. Only way to attach Evangelion is pretty much watching it in depression, I don't see around. For general drama aspect every character acts like worst happened to him while you know what happened to R:Z Characters. "Daddy Issues" vs. "Seeing everyone die" yeah pretty much Re:Zero wins here. Mystery part of Evangelion is not even close, mystery about mecha or the world not interesting as Re:Zero's tons of mysteries which executed perfectly without flaws. Re:Zero wins Mystery part easily as it engages you in entire Anime & Novel. Re:Zero easy win here. Not even need to mention about Worldbuilding & Lorebuilding. Re:Zero is a dark fantasy series, Evangelion is Sci-Fi. Evangelion never explains how other world countries react to that world changing events etc. which already makes Evangelion worldbuilding weak. Re:Zero worldbuilding & lorebuilding has unique style which is one of top in fiction. Unique parts about World and Lore always keep you interest in Re:Zero and you want to learn more as MC progress and you explore with him. I don't know why I even explained this much, Re:Zero huge easy win. Voice Acting & Musics & Art etc. also better in Re:Zero. Is there anything i forgot? I don't see anything Evangelion does better. |
OkeanixOct 21, 2022 5:20 AM
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| Popular anime syndrome. A lot of spiteful haters thinking this show does not deserve as much recognition as their favourite show (envy). Negative reviews are very few, because show is overall good, so haters are flocking to them and upvoting them, validating their shit takes. As such those few reviews are elevated to the top. On top of that, "confusing" rating elevates them even more, despite it should act as a dislike. I don't think, that Evangelion is the factor here, because that happens literally under every popular anime ever. |
PiromyslOct 21, 2022 4:54 AM
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| My reason on why I thought Re:ZERO was subpar is not because it’s “the exact same” (okay, maybe it copied quite a fair bit of elements) but rather it’s wasted potential, mostly that goddamn second season that turns it into a contrived mess. Yes, the lore is great but when applied, characters fall very short. Characters have no real purpose except become a dick-sucker for Subaru. But wait, that’s not the end of it. The first 12 episodes were at the same level of the first season but the second part was made of 9 flashback episodes 400 years earlier that didn't totally contribute to the story as mentioned with the characters. We only saw how much dumber Emilia was. However, the 4th arc(2nd season) is considered as the worse of the 6 (The 3 first arcs have the same length of the 4th, 5th or 6th.). If that arc is the worse, let’s find out what's next because in the end, the show is almost a joke. My thoughts are not very precise but I don’t attempt to overflow the comment section so I’ll leave it here as it is. |
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readf0x said: Okeanix said: It seems Evangelion fandom hates the Re:Zero most, i can't blame them actually for not accepting superior series in every possible way. I mean if I was Evangelion fan I would be cry because Re:Zero basically does everything better even without focusing it. honestly it's pretty overrated ngl Which is the overrated one? |
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Okeanix said: EatYourFrutz_ said: My reason on why I thought Re:ZERO was subpar is not because it’s “the exact same” (okay, maybe it copied quite a fair bit of elements) but rather it’s wasted potential, mostly that goddamn second season that turns it into a contrived mess. Yes, the lore is great but when applied, characters fall very short. Characters have no real purpose except become a dick-sucker for Subaru. But wait, that’s not the end of it. The first 12 episodes were at the same level of the first season but the second part was made of 9 flashback episodes 400 years earlier that didn't totally contribute to the story as mentioned with the characters. We only saw how much dumber Emilia was. However, the 4th arc(2nd season) is considered as the worse of the 6 (The 3 first arcs have the same length of the 4th, 5th or 6th.). If that arc is the worse, let’s find out what's next because in the end, the show is almost a joke. My thoughts are not very precise but I don’t attempt to overflow the comment section so I’ll leave it here as it is. This happens when you watch Season 2 blindfolded. I explained in my other post why Re:Zero is superior to Evangelion in every aspect. If you gave Evangelion 9/10 then you have to give Re:Zero 90/10 I did pay attention and I still think that the amount of depth just isn't there. Again, my points aren't very precise but I'll say this (and repeat some of what I just said): Characters, while having very interesting lore, are pretty much dick-suckers for Subaru, the pacing is too awkward and I don't need to mention much just how annoying the dialogue spam was in the second cour of season 2. Heck, even Subaru wasn't that great of a character. On paper, he's very unique to every isekai MC but when applied, his relationships with Emilia isn't too interesting. He also doesn't get enough growth so he's basically a walking "lore explorer" for girls to simp for. Before you ask: Go stick with your hero vs villain series or trash that is Mushoku Tensei instead. And stay away from peak fiction that is Re:ZERO. Except, the whole hero vs villain thingy isn't bad. It's just used a lot. It is better when a certain series executed it right. As for Mushoku, Rudeus and the main girls actually have their own major growth as well as maintaining interesting dynamics. I do NOT support Rudeus' filthy actions but this development is still far more interesting than Subaru's. |
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| both are shit stay mad |
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| Re:Zero is mid but neon jellysis shition is one of the worst anime ever made. |
| What do you mean without focusing on it? It won't be good if it didn't focus on it. EatYourFrutz_ said: As for Mushoku, Rudeus and the main girls actually have their own major growth as well as maintaining interesting dynamics. I do NOT support Rudeus' filthy actions but this development is still far more interesting than Subaru's. I truly hope this is true for volumes past 15 since so far, that's not even remotely true. |
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zemeck said: both are shit stay mad The only true answer. Both of the protagonists were equally annoying |
I love Monogatari Series |
Okeanix said: Ayanokouji fan opinion is invalid. Even Subaru is smarter than Ayanokouji, i don't see anything smart about his character just everyone else is extremely dumb. (15 character limit)  |
| I like reserve but NGE is definitely better also ayo @Assaf2908 check this out. |
Okeanix said: Even Monster, Berserk, Vagabond, Umineko, LOTGH, HxH, Clannad is not better than Re:Zero, idk how NGE is. The amount of cap I see from you is through the roof. 1 chapter of umineko ep8 is better than all of re:zero. Absolutely, no way to even discuss this. This is ultimately true. I can say this in red. |
Okeanix said: elderonn said: The amount of cap I see from you is through the roof. 1 chapter of umineko ep8 is better than all of re:zero. Absolutely, no way to even discuss this. This is ultimately true. I can say this in red. Even Umineko EP8 with all sequel effect is lower rated than Re:Zero novel. Burned. Umineko EP8 is nothing compared to Peak of Re:Zero. All of Umineko is not better than one Re:Zero arc, wake up to reality. It has 8% 1/10 from bots🥲 Also the visual novel is rated higher than rezero lol |
Okeanix said: elderonn said: The amount of cap I see from you is through the roof. 1 chapter of umineko ep8 is better than all of re:zero. Absolutely, no way to even discuss this. This is ultimately true. I can say this in red. Even Umineko EP8 with all sequel effect (separate entries for each ep) is lower rated than Re:Zero novel. Burned. Umineko EP8 is nothing compared to Peak of Re:Zero. All of Umineko is not better than one Re:Zero arc, wake up to reality. “Wake up to reality” someone didn’t read umineko I see… sadge. Also every show that you mentioned wipes rezero to the bottom of the barrel. 😌 |
Okeanix said: Ayanokouji fan opinion is invalid. Even Subaru is smarter than Ayanokouji, i don't see anything smart about his character just everyone else is extremely dumb. "Ayanokouji is not smart, everyone else is just too dumb" Have you read the source material atleast to come to that conclusion? "No but I've seen the anime" 🤡 Imagine being so butthurt over other people's opinions |
| I love Monogatari Series |
Okeanix said: aktiwkunn said: "Ayanokouji is not smart, everyone else is just too dumb" Have you read the source material atleast to come to that conclusion? "No but I've seen the anime" 🤡 Imagine being so butthurt over other people's opinions I don't need to read COTE too see how overrated it is. Even COTE anime doesn't have any remarkable quality, just a circus show. Idk if LN is 10x better than Anime that doesn't still make it to Top50. Also you like Mushoku Tensei, Fate Heaven's Feel. I'm very confident it is hugely overrated. Both novels of that same same circus show are rated more than Re zero LN. Any thoughts on that? |
| I love Monogatari Series |
Okeanix said: aktiwkunn said: Both novels of that same same circus show are rated more than Re zero LN. Any thoughts on that? Even Re:Zero is -0.10 rated if you click stats you see there is more people and percentage of 10/10 in Re:Zero than COTE. (re:zero has more haters) Also Re:Zero have really specific target audience which not everyone will like or understand. How i can take rankings that seriously if One Piece is 9.21 when it deserves 3/10 at best. COTE has more haters. Some people hate it because of the fandom, many hate it because of Ayanokouji wannabes, there are also people who hate it because of dumb power scalers. There is a COTE hater right here talking to me but you won't find Re zero haters that easily. You know what that means? |
| I love Monogatari Series |
Okeanix said: It seems Evangelion fandom hates the Re:Zero most, i can't blame them actually for not accepting superior series in every possible way. I mean if I was Evangelion fan I would be cry because Re:Zero basically does everything better even without focusing it. Okeanix said: I mean I can understand why Evangelion fans dislike Re:Zero so much. They have main character like Shinji which they value most but Re:Zero has god-tier main character like Subaru which has best character development, motivations, depth and so more. Subaru's goals, motivations, backstory and everything is executed better. Psychological aspect which Evangelion fans like most is unfortunately inferior to Re:Zero every way. This is mostly because Evangelion psychology is more focused on depression but psychology is not simple thing to reduce that. Re:Zero does this amazingly, every character has their own unique problems, depth and each one of them requires special psychological approach. We can understand why Psychologists like Re:Zero more than Evangelion because Re:Zero is more realistic in actual human psychology. Re:Zero wins. Suspense aspect of Evangelion is inferior to Re:Zero, we know Shinji has plot armor pretty much but Subaru doesn't have plot armor. Yes he can't die permanently but that doesn't prevent you to see so many deaths and possibility of no-return. I'm not watching Evangelion and expect some angel kill Shinji in first 10 episodes but I can expect Subaru or other cast die in most horrible way every episode. Re:Zero wins. Action aspect of Evangelion is my opinion also inferior to Re:Zero. Re:Zero is unique fantasy series has its own power system, Evangelion is just mecha action and not even mechas in Evangelion are special. They don't have custom attacks or something you understand me. Action in evangelion is super flat not just inferior to Re:Zero but pretty much inferior to everything. Character Cast in Evangelion is again too inferior compared to Re:Zero, Re:Zero has over 50+ unique characters each othem has their own depth, motivations, goals, psychology, development through too many books & seasons. Re:Zero easily wins. Drama is very subjective but I didn't attached to any character in Evangelion because they are simply same to me, they have same problems, they have same psychological issues. Even though Re:Zero characters are fantasy-born they are somehow more relatable and attachable then Evangelion characters which born in place similar to real-world somehow. Only way to attach Evangelion is pretty much watching it in depression, I don't see around. For general drama aspect every character acts like worst happened to him while you know what happened to R:Z Characters. "Daddy Issues" vs. "Seeing everyone die" yeah pretty much Re:Zero wins here. Mystery part of Evangelion is not even close, mystery about mecha or the world not interesting as Re:Zero's tons of mysteries which executed perfectly without flaws. Re:Zero wins Mystery part easily as it engages you in entire Anime & Novel. Re:Zero easy win here. Not even need to mention about Worldbuilding & Lorebuilding. Re:Zero is a dark fantasy series, Evangelion is Sci-Fi. Evangelion never explains how other world countries react to that world changing events etc. which already makes Evangelion worldbuilding weak. Re:Zero worldbuilding & lorebuilding has unique style which is one of top in fiction. Unique parts about World and Lore always keep you interest in Re:Zero and you want to learn more as MC progress and you explore with him. I don't know why I even explained this much, Re:Zero huge easy win. Voice Acting & Musics & Art etc. also better in Re:Zero. Is there anything i forgot? I don't see anything Evangelion does better. I'm a fan of both EVA and ReZero... but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| I agree on a lot of points, especially the psychology aspect and characters. I don't feel anything towards the characters or the psychology behind them because they aren't written well at all. I find it hard to watch an episode of NGE due to how flat it can be, both in mystery and drama. Re:Zero is a lot more engaging, you are more likely to be on your toes most of the time. The desire to know more about the world and the answers. The story is great, never leaving a single bit unexplored due to how many side stories there are. You can see a lot more passion behind Re:Zero than NGE as a whole. |
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| These threads absolutely bring out the worst out of both Re:Zero's fans and haters, just stop that already. It's always the ones with the most eggaxerated and braindead takes that you'll find by creating such a non-sensical thread. On one side you have the die-hard elitists who breath Re:Zero and trash every other series and on the other you'll find people with takes just as bad. We don't want your shitty "comparisons" where both parties just flame eachother and spam "X is better than Y" or "X is deeper than Y" without actually diving into the subject. You can like or hate Re:Zero (or any series really) all you want but please spare us these moronic threads. |
| Both are great series. I haven't seen EVA in a while but it definitely stuck with me (in a good way). Re:zero is a very fun anime. But you can't really compare them IMO. In the end of the day it doesn't really matter though which one is more popular. Just watch and enjoy anime. |
TerrorAdhaerensOct 22, 2022 1:06 AM
 Back before Re:Zero Season 2 Part 2 came out, I heard a lot of people claiming it would be 'peak fiction'. Considering that I was surprised at how much I liked the first part of Season 2 and I hadn't read the source material, I decided to believe in the hype. Unfortunately, I found it to be merely decent. Even though some of the character backstories were cool and it tied up the previous seasons arcs nicely, all the tension built up in the previous part (and previous seasons) seemed to be resolved far too easily. It didn't seem like 'peak fiction' to me. Also, I don't really like Re:Zero's visual style, especially some of the female character designs. Although, I can't really blame the anime for that as it's just my personal taste. That said, I'll still watch Season 3 and I hope it's good. However, this time I won't believe the fans when they tell me that 'the next arcs are peak fiction'. |
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