| Why do you think MAPPA didn't give Jigokuraku a higher priority? |
deg said: Then why did they did Tondemo Skill? They already had Vinland Saga in Winter, there was no need to take that project. Also, I doubt that anime gave them a lot of profit.with how many anime projects they take this will definitely happen to some unfortunate anime they are working the anime industry as a whole have limited freelancers that are talented anyway and MAPPA cannot hire all of them It's funny because even that anime looked better than Jigokuraku. I hope the vastly improve the production of Jigokuraku with Season 2. |
deg said: Is MAPPA part of the production committee for Jujutsu Kaisen and Attack on Titan? Because if they aren't in any of those, that wouldn't explain the underwhelming quality of Jigokuraku.Kenfaeru said: Then why did they did Tondemo Skill? They already had Vinland Saga in Winter, there was no need to take that project. Also, I doubt that anime gave them a lot of profit. It's funny because even that anime looked better than Jigokuraku. I hope the vastly improve the production of Jigokuraku with Season 2. is mappa part of the production committee of that show? i guess they are and are high ranking too so more portion of profit goes to them than a contractual anime adaptation that is hells paradise contractual anime adaptations have a fix and small pay for studios |
deg said: And they aren't part of the production committee for Jigokuraku? Why?Kenfaeru said: Is MAPPA part of the production committee for Jujutsu Kaisen and Attack on Titan? Because if they aren't in any of those, that wouldn't explain the underwhelming quality of Jigokuraku. mappa is part of the production committee of jjk and aot |
| Show still looks better than 50% of Anime coming out each and every season - although it's not CSM-Level-Animation, true^^ Nitpicky Thread. Get over it. It looks fine. |
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Merve2Love said: Show still looks better than 50% of Anime coming out each and every season - although it's not CSM-Level-Animation, true^^ Nitpicky Thread. Get over it. It looks fine. People will have an opinion and wheter it looks fine or not, it's not up to you to decide for others. Get over it. |
Kimurah said: This. I just asked why it's not a high priority for MAPPA and some people lose their head kekMerve2Love said: Show still looks better than 50% of Anime coming out each and every season - although it's not CSM-Level-Animation, true^^ Nitpicky Thread. Get over it. It looks fine. People will have an opinion and wheter it looks fine or not, it's not up to you to decide for others. Get over it. |
Kimurah said: Merve2Love said: Show still looks better than 50% of Anime coming out each and every season - although it's not CSM-Level-Animation, true^^ Nitpicky Thread. Get over it. It looks fine. People will have an opinion and wheter it looks fine or not, it's not up to you to decide for others. Get over it. Wait...so I have an opinion about this and you're telling me, in a bitchy way, to accept other opinions? The Irony...hope you can see it :) |
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Merve2Love said: My first post wasn't an opinion tho. Jigokuraku isn't a high priority for MAPPA, compared to JJK and AoT.Kimurah said: People will have an opinion and wheter it looks fine or not, it's not up to you to decide for others. Get over it. Wait...so I have an opinion about this and you're telling me, in a bitchy way, to accept other opinions? The Irony...hope you can see it :) |
Kenfaeru said: Merve2Love said: My first post wasn't an opinion tho. Jigokuraku isn't a high priority for MAPPA, compared to JJK and AoT.Wait...so I have an opinion about this and you're telling me, in a bitchy way, to accept other opinions? The Irony...hope you can see it :) But... You don't know that. There are no facts. It IS an opinion. Judging by Animation quality and/or staff alone then no - it doesn't seem like a low priority adaptation :) That's what I was saying. You're comparing it to AoT? That's not really compareable at this point. AoT is a global sucess. It's an established Franchise, with 8 seasons under it's belt... So ye... it kinda get's more support. It's an Anime-Juggernaut. That aside, AoT's first season wasn't even done by MAPPA so....that whole argument is weird^^ It's not comparable to the first season of Jigokuraku. AND (that's important now) Im allowed an opinion, anyways. No matter if what I was saying is right, wrong or offending you in some way :) It's a Thread. It's an anime discussion. That's kinda the point of this... |
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Merve2Love said: Nope, it's not an opinion. Jigokuraku is not as important as JJK, CSM, and AoT for MAPPA. JJK and CSM are being worked on in the 2nd department, and Manabu Otsuka (MAPPA Ceo) said they are working on with no compromises on quality. So they are the two most important IPs for them. That is a fact.Kenfaeru said: My first post wasn't an opinion tho. Jigokuraku isn't a high priority for MAPPA, compared to JJK and AoT. But... You don't know that. There are no facts. It IS an opinion. Judging by Animation quality and/or staff alone then no - it doesn't seem like a low priority adaptation :) That's what I was saying. You're comparing it to AoT? That's not really compareable at this point. AoT is a global sucess. It's an established Franchise, with 8 seasons under it's belt... So ye... it kinda get's more support. It's an Anime-Juggernaut. That aside, AoT's first season wasn't even done by MAPPA so....that whole argument is weird^^ It's not comparable to the first season of Jigokuraku. AND (that's important now) Im allowed an opinion, anyways. No matter if what I was saying is right, wrong or offending you in some way :) It's a Thread. It's an anime discussion. That's kinda the point of this... Also, it doesn't matter that AoT Season 1 wasn't done by MAPPA, it's still a priority for them with the production time they gave this final part. |
Kenfaeru said: Merve2Love said: Nope, it's not an opinion. Jigokuraku is not as important as JJK, CSM, and AoT for MAPPA. JJK and CSM are being worked on in the 2nd department, and Manabu Otsuka (MAPPA Ceo) said they are working on with no compromises on quality. So they are the two most important IPs for them. That is a fact.But... You don't know that. There are no facts. It IS an opinion. Judging by Animation quality and/or staff alone then no - it doesn't seem like a low priority adaptation :) That's what I was saying. You're comparing it to AoT? That's not really compareable at this point. AoT is a global sucess. It's an established Franchise, with 8 seasons under it's belt... So ye... it kinda get's more support. It's an Anime-Juggernaut. That aside, AoT's first season wasn't even done by MAPPA so....that whole argument is weird^^ It's not comparable to the first season of Jigokuraku. AND (that's important now) Im allowed an opinion, anyways. No matter if what I was saying is right, wrong or offending you in some way :) It's a Thread. It's an anime discussion. That's kinda the point of this... Also, it doesn't matter that AoT Season 1 wasn't done by MAPPA, it's still a priority for them with the production time they gave this final part. It's just an opinion, my dude^^ Nothing you're saying has anything to do with a Show not beeing *important* to the studio. How are you confused on why AoT is getting more care from the studio than a brand new Show, just starting out? xD It's completely reasonable. You don't get it. There are no numbers, there are no stats or some sort of data...it's just you feeling the Id is somehow mistreated. It's an opinion - And hey, that's okay. But these aren't facts^^ |
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Merve2Love said: It's not that Jigo isn't important to MAPPA, it's that it's NOT AS important as JJK, CSM, AoT. The quality of something is entirely subjective, but the priority they gave to it it's not. Jigokuraku wasn't an priority. (This is fact)Kenfaeru said: Nope, it's not an opinion. Jigokuraku is not as important as JJK, CSM, and AoT for MAPPA. JJK and CSM are being worked on in the 2nd department, and Manabu Otsuka (MAPPA Ceo) said they are working on with no compromises on quality. So they are the two most important IPs for them. That is a fact. Also, it doesn't matter that AoT Season 1 wasn't done by MAPPA, it's still a priority for them with the production time they gave this final part. It's just an opinion, my dude^^ Nothing you're saying has anything to do with a Show not beeing *important* to the studio. How are you confused on why AoT is getting more care from the studio than a brand new Show, just starting out? xD It's completely reasonable. You don't get it. There are no numbers, there are no stats or some sort of data...it's just you feeling the Id is somehow mistreated. It's an opinion - And hey, that's okay. But these aren't facts^^ It's not that it looks bad, but compared to these other projects, it's underwhleming. Atleast cour 2 should be better since AoT would have already ended. (This is subjective). |
Kenfaeru said: Merve2Love said: It's not that Jigo isn't important to MAPPA, it's that it's NOT AS important as JJK, CSM, AoT. The quality of something is entirely subjective, but the priority they gave to it it's not. Jigokuraku wasn't an priority. (This is fact)It's just an opinion, my dude^^ Nothing you're saying has anything to do with a Show not beeing *important* to the studio. How are you confused on why AoT is getting more care from the studio than a brand new Show, just starting out? xD It's completely reasonable. You don't get it. There are no numbers, there are no stats or some sort of data...it's just you feeling the Id is somehow mistreated. It's an opinion - And hey, that's okay. But these aren't facts^^ It's not that it looks bad, but compared to these other projects, it's underwhleming. Atleast cour 2 should be better since AoT would have already ended. (This is subjective). Would make sense, since the IP's you mentioned all have a large followings and are hugely established and succesful, over the years. However....you just saying stuff doesn't mean it's facts, you know. Facts are made of actual information, data and stats. You didn't provide any of that. You just keep repeating an unfoundet opinion over and over and over again... Sorry, you didn't get it^^ Dunno how to get this across to you. |
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Merve2Love said: Sorry, I haven't found the source for my statements. So it's your word agains't mine.Kenfaeru said: It's not that Jigo isn't important to MAPPA, it's that it's NOT AS important as JJK, CSM, AoT. The quality of something is entirely subjective, but the priority they gave to it it's not. Jigokuraku wasn't an priority. (This is fact) It's not that it looks bad, but compared to these other projects, it's underwhleming. Atleast cour 2 should be better since AoT would have already ended. (This is subjective). Would make sense, since the IP's you mentioned all have a large followings and are hugely established and succesful, over the years. However....you just saying stuff doesn't mean it's facts, you know. Facts are made of actual information, data and stats. You didn't provide any of that. You just keep repeating an unfoundet opinion over and over and over again... Sorry, you didn't get it^^ Dunno how to get this across to you. I remember Manabu Otsuka commenting that they are working on JJK and CSM with no compromises with quality, while excluding Jigokuraku and Attack on Titan. But I can't confirm it. Still, we can both agree that Jigokuraku doesn't have the level of quality of Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man, right? That's what I meant. Considering it's often compared to them, it got the short end of the stick. |
Kenfaeru said: Merve2Love said: Sorry, I haven't found the source for my statements. So it's your word agains't mine.Would make sense, since the IP's you mentioned all have a large followings and are hugely established and succesful, over the years. However....you just saying stuff doesn't mean it's facts, you know. Facts are made of actual information, data and stats. You didn't provide any of that. You just keep repeating an unfoundet opinion over and over and over again... Sorry, you didn't get it^^ Dunno how to get this across to you. I remember Manabu Otsuka commenting that they are working on JJK and CSM with no compromises with quality, while excluding Jigokuraku and Attack on Titan. But I can't confirm it. Still, we can both agree that Jigokuraku doesn't have the level of quality of Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man, right? That's what I meant. Considering it's often compared to them, it got the short end of the stick. No facts. This is not how this works. Im sorry. |
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Merve2Love said: Yeah, that wasn't a fact. Just my opinion. I gave Up because I can't dind the source of my statements.Kenfaeru said: Sorry, I haven't found the source for my statements. So it's your word agains't mine. I remember Manabu Otsuka commenting that they are working on JJK and CSM with no compromises with quality, while excluding Jigokuraku and Attack on Titan. But I can't confirm it. Still, we can both agree that Jigokuraku doesn't have the level of quality of Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man, right? That's what I meant. Considering it's often compared to them, it got the short end of the stick. No facts. This is not how this works. Im sorry. In my opinion, Jigokuraku looks worse than JJK, CSM, AoT Finale and even Tondemo Skill (the Isekai). And I expected it to look as good as JJK |
Kenfaeru said: Why do you think MAPPA didn't give Jigokuraku a higher priority? I hope you get deleted from existence imo |
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Roch2001 said: Thanks, I love you too ;)Kenfaeru said: Why do you think MAPPA didn't give Jigokuraku a higher priority? I hope you get deleted from existence imo |
| Must be the work of Mappa's B team. Fine by me as this anime is average anyway. |
| More like C team. For me, it's the worst looking MAPPA show of 2023. |
OvergrownRover said: Really? Jigokuraku has the worst production schedule of all MAPPA shows?Kenfaeru said: More like C team. For me, it's the worst looking MAPPA show of 2023. Might be their worst ever (production wise) |
Kiss kiss ;) Really dont understand your priority comment. This show is most defo one of the best playing this season and in terms of production quality looks pretty high, I dont know what else they doing at the moment but they dont seem to be scrimping on budget here. |
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rafi369 said: They are a big company, they certainly thought about that. mappa currently has too many main stream anime. they have to focus on less anime and improve it's animation quality. It's probably not profitable to do like that, and they don't want to resort to tax evasion like Ufotable in order to compensate the loss. |
Merve2Love said: It looks terrible when compared with any high-budget action-focused anime being made nowadays. No sense in denying it. First episodes looked amazing, it's been getting progressively worse, episode 11 looked pretty bad.Show still looks better than 50% of Anime coming out each and every season - although it's not CSM-Level-Animation, true^^ Nitpicky Thread. Get over it. It looks fine. And it's especially bad when compared with other shows Mappa has made in recent years. |
Squilon said: Merve2Love said: It looks terrible when compared with any high-budget action-focused anime being made nowadays. No sense in denying it. First episodes looked amazing, it's been getting progressively worse, episode 11 looked pretty bad.Show still looks better than 50% of Anime coming out each and every season - although it's not CSM-Level-Animation, true^^ Nitpicky Thread. Get over it. It looks fine. And it's especially bad when compared with other shows Mappa has made in recent years. No, it doesn't. Sorry. , |
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Merve2Love said: I believe this is what is commonly known as "coping". The next step, if I'm not mistaken, is "seething". Keep me updated.Squilon said: It looks terrible when compared with any high-budget action-focused anime being made nowadays. No sense in denying it. First episodes looked amazing, it's been getting progressively worse, episode 11 looked pretty bad. And it's especially bad when compared with other shows Mappa has made in recent years. No, it doesn't. Sorry. , |
Squilon said: I believe this is what is commonly known as "coping". The next step, if I'm not mistaken, is "seething". Keep me updated. I believe this is just a difference in opinion and a little bit delusion on your part^^ No biggie, really. Most people think it looks good...that's just a fact, judging by MaL Forum Threads :) But you do you. If everyone is just "coping" or whatever in your wolrd - that's okay, too^^ |
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