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Jun 18, 2023 6:59 PM
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I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless
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Jun 18, 2023 7:10 PM
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It is popular to do so.
Jun 18, 2023 7:24 PM
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Out of those studious MAPPA is probably the one that has the most confirmed cases of overworked staff, I think. Also, it does get a bit boring when a single anime studio animates everything since all anime start to look the same.
Jun 18, 2023 7:26 PM
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Leon888 said:
I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless

I don’t necessarily hate MAPPA but I just don’t like when they release every single popular anime and then the anime ends up not being at the best quality as it should be. Most of the projects are rushed and sometimes the soundtrack gets repetitive. Animation does get impressive (sometimes) but most of the time is basic animation don’t get why ppl hype up the animation. Out of everything I like jjk and hells paradise. Aot and Csm were actually kind of mid ngl. MAPPA is a hit or miss for me tbh. I could think of other better studios on top of my head.
Jun 18, 2023 7:26 PM
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Main reason is that the executives at Mappa are trying make lots of money with popular series, through some sceptical means. Underpaying their drawing staff/animators combined with high work load for example. The animes are great, but the means to get to them are less so.
Jun 18, 2023 7:41 PM
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I mean there are many reasons to choose from but, the obvious reason would be Attack on Titan. Alot of it felt stale and ofcourse the final season kept being milked... each time you think it's gonna be the finale they cut it into a part and another part and even one more part.
Then you have Chainsaw Man. It had good potential and it was overhyped and didn't deliver. Honestly, it would've been better without the overhype as some moments from the manga gets stale without the timing where the chapter ends, I can't exactly explain it. you might call it comedic timing or something similar to perfectly cut shots/screams. but, at least that's what attracted me to the manga after watching the anime. Some manga readers would ofcourse disagree.
Then you have their usage of CGI which sometimes kills the momentum. for some people, it did just that with Chainsawman. maybe other animes too...
As one final anime... Kakegurui got changed here and there specially at the end where they end it with a bad filler and then next season they acted as if it didn't matter much. either you own to it all the way or don't... but, it won't matter because it was horrible anyways. This one however might be a little biased for me since I enjoyed the manga first. But, for chainsaw man, I read the manga after the anime and with Attack I read like the beginning of it after the first couple of seasons.
Jun 18, 2023 7:49 PM
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they acquire too many shows and are accused of underpaying their employees.
but despite having too many shows they produce high quality anime
Jun 18, 2023 8:12 PM
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From what I noticed, many MAPPA haters, or even most of them, hate this studio, because it's apparently popular to hate on it. Herd mentality, to be precise. There are also people unhappy, because anime adaptations of their favorite manga didn't look as they had imagined them to look like, even though they presented high production quality. But even so, it's just a different version of herd mentality I mentioned earlier.
Jun 18, 2023 8:49 PM
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i don't hate mappa or anything and I don't mean i like it.
like mappa doesn't take good anime project like one punch man and solo leveling, and show their work but they take shows like hell paradise and campfire cooking in another world with my absurd skill . they are nice anime but doesn't contain content. i only like demon slayer due to its fight scenes.
Jun 18, 2023 9:37 PM
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Leon888 said:
I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless

It seems cool nowadays to hate every single mainstream anime and studio
Jun 18, 2023 9:47 PM
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Wouldn’t say I hate them, as they produce quality shows like zombieland saga and jjk as much as they do lesser shows, but they just seem like a classically terrible corporation that cares very little about their staff and projects they take on.

They are basically synonymous with atrocious production schedules and inconsistent production quality at this point.

And even purely as a consumer of anime, while ignoring their workplace culture, their shows are just disappointing. stuff like jigokuraku and dororo have great starts, only for the animation quality to plummet a few episodes in and stuff like their parts of aot or chainsawman are good, but just do not live up to the hype of previous parts or the manga.

So to sum it up, it’s a studio of the highest profile, but it just seems to fail to live up to expectations, due to mistreatment of their employees and IP.
Jun 18, 2023 10:14 PM
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I would say this hate is more recent, after the announcements they made, unless it’s been going on for a while now which I haven’t heard of. A lot of people expected Chainsaw Man season 2 to be announced but unfortunately it wasn’t. There are also rumors going around about CSM’s director changing and MAPPA firing some employees, but i’m not entirely sure if they’re true.

The hate might also come from MAPPA’s work on Jigokuraku. People expected much better animation from MAPPA after the work they put into CSM and Jujutsu Kaisen, and honestly, I did too. The animation quality isn’t necessarily bad, but it’s pretty low for MAPPA standards.

Basically I think the hate towards MAPPA is because of the choices they’re making
Jun 18, 2023 10:53 PM
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Dixoncider8142 said:
Leon888 said:
I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless

I don’t necessarily hate MAPPA but I just don’t like when they release every single popular anime and then the anime ends up not being at the best quality as it should be. Most of the projects are rushed and sometimes the soundtrack gets repetitive. Animation does get impressive (sometimes) but most of the time is basic animation don’t get why ppl hype up the animation. Out of everything I like jjk and hells paradise. Aot and Csm were actually kind of mid ngl. MAPPA is a hit or miss for me tbh. I could think of other better studios on top of my head.

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I would be much happier if they would animate less anime, but with better qualities.
The other studios you mentioned (ufotable, KyoAni, Wit) are better at delivering consistently high quality shows.
Jun 18, 2023 11:09 PM
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I think MAPPA is pretty good, just not very consistent, yet. I think people are more annoyed because of the fanbases from what they animate. Like if another anime is being produced by A1, a mass majority of people will be like “it shoulda been MAPPA.” It’s annoying hearing that, especially in social media circles.

A lot of their earlier smaller projects kinda suck. I think they are good, but I definitely think there are better studios out there. But I like what they have been doing recently.
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Jun 18, 2023 11:18 PM
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It's a popular studio...if something is popular it'll definitely have haters
Even though sometimes they mess up(like dividing aot countless times)it's not a valid reason to get this much hate
Well haters gonna hate anyway... Mappa is one of my fvrt studio , they still deliver even they're stacked with many projects
Jun 19, 2023 12:24 AM
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They do a good job. Perhaps, criticism more geared towards their treatment of employees? They need to have a strike, like the writers here in the US. Let the creatives do their thing, with fair compensation.
Jun 19, 2023 12:26 AM
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Leon888 said:
I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless

I don’t know if I hate Mappa but it’s fun to make fun of them, I think they are a good studio AOT final episode was really nicely animated and I can tell they put a lot of effort. I think it’s just they pick up all the big Shonen, ppl just clown on them.
Jun 19, 2023 12:42 AM
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Leon888 said:
I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless

for me wit is one of my favorite studios and I feel like both aot and Vinland saga were better off in the hands of wit than in the hands of mappa, I don't hate mappa but I also don't like that many of their anime aside from those two. hells paradise in particular really annoys me but that's just one show
Jun 19, 2023 12:47 AM
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They grab way too many animes, spreading talent across them all, resulting in alotta mid stuff. From very meh directing to alotta cut corners in animation. Imo they ruined a few animes this way.
Jun 19, 2023 12:51 AM
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its mainly news about their labor exploitation ye other studios does labor exploitation too due to the nature of capitalism but in recent years most news of anime studio labor exploitation is from MAPPA
Jun 19, 2023 1:26 AM

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gotta hop on the trend to look cool for the bros, you know. very rarely justified hate, like we saw with csm. the only one they've butchered so far is jigokuraku. they also often forget but once reminded about the overwork situation, they like to act like their grandmothers are the ones getting exploited.
Jun 19, 2023 2:13 AM

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"popular thing bad so im cool"

That's literally it.
Jun 19, 2023 3:21 AM

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I'm trying to attach a YT video here but it's not working and constantly getting errors🥲

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man I see way more fan boys then hate for it lol
Jun 19, 2023 9:44 AM
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Its simple because people can't understand a single thing about the company and just hate them based on how the social media potray's them. I keep seeing things where people are like Its boring when mappa is animating everything, kids you should be happy that you are actually getting to see the anime adaptation of the series. When Wit dropped AOT, it was offered to different studios for continuation but only mappa agreed to animate it. Likewise, a lot of projects that mappa is getting was dropped by its parent studios. And, I don't see why is it wrong for mappa to animate them. there is no way that these projects were only offered to mappa, right? the other animation studio didn't take it then how is it mappa's fault. And I don't understand why people think animation looks the same in every mappa's project. Do you see any similarity between vinland saga s2 and hell's paradise animation. And those who are saying that mappa is overworking its staff, you should first do some research before commenting anything. I know a lot of you are saying this based on the video of Aot's director from about 1 or 2 year ago where he looked lifeless. And most of you must think that there is only one department in mappa who handles the animation so they are getting overworked. Mappa is a big company, it has various department with good animators, so the projects it took are divided to various department to work on the animation. And, its easier for you to say that they are overworking their staffs, however, if that was the case then the animators of mappa would have already left the studio and joined some other studios and it would have been easier for them to do so especially now when there's is lack of animators in the animation industry.
Jun 19, 2023 3:31 PM
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huh? nobody hates mappa. everyone hopes their favorite show would get adapted by Mappa
Jun 19, 2023 9:29 PM
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Leon888 said:
I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless

Without going into Drama about the labor, People also dislike the direction in Mappa, All of their anime look kind of samey its evident that compared to many other studios they Don’t take risk with their direction trying to give characters more natural proportions, In the works they do adapt it feels like some of the style from the manga ends up getting lost in translation (AOT and CSM are great examples of this) Compared to Ufotable their usage of cg is a lot more distasteful, I mean those cg titans did look goofy. They rely more heavily on rotoscoping than other studios, some people dislike this, However I don’t mind but, when they do It manages to look worse than Production IG and Cloverworks sooo I cannot give them too much praise. I think the main issue with Mappa is that discussion has become so polarizing that many people feel that they have to lean one way or the other. Some cheer when their favorite anime is getting adapted by Mappa, Others cry in horror at even a rumor, recently before S3 of ReZero got confirmed by White Fox people were genuinely afraid Mappa was going to take the anime. All In All the truth is somewhere between, Mappa certainly is not a low quality studio that produces half-assed anime. However it is a studio that never produces the most visually stunning anime so It is what it is.
Jun 19, 2023 10:13 PM
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This is just my personal opinion, but I think there's a lot of still frames that look a little rushed. Definitely looks like workers being overworked and overwhelmed.
Jun 19, 2023 10:38 PM
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Cause they botched the CSM animation so badly probably
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I don't really get it, I like their animation. But mainly Attack on Titan fans who preferred Wit's style like to shit on Mappa, other than that I see a lot of praise for Mappa on social media

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Jun 20, 2023 1:23 AM
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People hate MAPPA unnecessarily because apparently it's a trend and somehow makes them look cool ig. It's the same people who keep crying about the CSM adaptation and their cgi in general.
Jun 20, 2023 1:46 AM
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Because MAPPA treats their employees like garbage, and does so many unnecessary projects
Jun 20, 2023 3:19 AM

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everything popular gets hate, human nature i'd say.
I remember before adapting AOT, they were considered an underrated studio by many people, not that it got popular...
Jun 20, 2023 4:11 AM

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I will never forgive mappa for censoring my puke kiss
Jun 20, 2023 4:15 AM

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Maybe is because they explode their workers with a lot of stuff at year without any break or anything. On the other hand, the people who says the hate is because the poor animation, clearly dont know what are talking about.
Jun 20, 2023 9:37 AM

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Why do people dislike Mappa?

Mappa has multiple studios that produce different quality results. So if a manga you like is taken on by them it is a roulette, it could look like AOT/Vinland Saga, or it could look more like JJK/Jigokuraku. Not everyone likes the different styles they produce, and some of their efforts look better than others.

I think Mappa is most comparable to studios like A1 or JC Staff. They put out large numbers of series, but quality is inconsistent. They make some great series, and they suffer some rushed production disasters. Studios like Ufotable/Wit/KyoAni aren't comparable to Mappa, because they produce way fewer shows than Mappa, they are less likely to be rushed, and they have higher baseline standards.

There is also a sentiment expressed by some that Mappa is "overly westernized". I'm not going to defend this sentiment, I don't fully even understand it, but I have seen it stated many times.

For me personally, I've really enjoyed some of their series. I don't like the style they use for Aot and Vinland saga, but it's not enough for me to hate the studio. Their attempts to self fund anime are going to be important for the future success/survival of anime studios, so in that regard I really wish for them to succeed.
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Because all of Mappa's productions are poorly directed.

lol CSM literally had some of the best direction in any anime of the past few years. It's borderline cinematic at times. Quiet moments get FULL attention with beautiful animation, cinematography, framing etc and action scenes flow beautifully.

What are you talking about?
Jun 20, 2023 3:43 PM

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They're pretty trash generally and have ruined this series. Thankfully it can be redeemed, hopefully, Prod IG or WIT gets it off their hands. What a fucking shame such a masterpiece of a manga with such deep lore,  worldbuilding, and amazing fights has to be ruined by this meme studio. The disparity in quality between the manga and anime for this is insurmountable,.. 
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Because all of Mappa's productions are poorly directed.


Jigokuraku is literally the only production from them I would even remotely call poorly directed.

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I mean there are many reasons to choose from but, the obvious reason would be Attack on Titan. Alot of it felt stale and ofcourse the final season kept being milked... each time you think it's gonna be the finale they cut it into a part and another part and even one more part.


That is NOT what "being milked" means. They aren't adding any type of padding or filler to artificially extend the series, these splits are a combination of Kodansha's terrible marketing choices + the production circumstances making it impossible to adapt everything in one go.

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Leon888 said:
I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless

Without going into Drama about the labor, People also dislike the direction in Mappa, All of their anime look kind of samey its evident that compared to many other studios they Don’t take risk with their direction trying to give characters more natural proportions, In the works they do adapt it feels like some of the style from the manga ends up getting lost in translation (AOT and CSM are great examples of this) Compared to Ufotable their usage of cg is a lot more distasteful, I mean those cg titans did look goofy. They rely more heavily on rotoscoping than other studios, some people dislike this, However I don’t mind but, when they do It manages to look worse than Production IG and Cloverworks sooo I cannot give them too much praise. I think the main issue with Mappa is that discussion has become so polarizing that many people feel that they have to lean one way or the other. Some cheer when their favorite anime is getting adapted by Mappa, Others cry in horror at even a rumor, recently before S3 of ReZero got confirmed by White Fox people were genuinely afraid Mappa was going to take the anime. All In All the truth is somewhere between, Mappa certainly is not a low quality studio that produces half-assed anime. However it is a studio that never produces the most visually stunning anime so It is what it is.


Not a single one of MAPPA's shows look "samey" at all. Attack on Titan, Chainsaw Man, Idaten Deities, JJK, Re-Main, Banana Fish, Shingeki no Bahamut, Campfire Cooking, Jigokuraku, Zankyou no Terror.... tell me where the fuck do any of these shows "look the same". And what the fuck is "not giving their character natural proportions" even supposed to mean? And neither AOT and CSM get "lost in translation" at all. Both Kishi and Sugiyama did great in adaptating both. MAPPA's CG looks great most of the time, surely you're not gonna tell me those shitty CG fish and dragon heads from Demon Slayer look better?

You also talk about "utilizing a lot of rotoscoping" which is also a fucking like. Attack on Titan, DDD, CSM and Vinland do use rotoscoping, but they're nowhere near that frequent to be considered "a lot."
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Cause they botched the CSM animation so badly probably


Chainsaw Man is literally one of the most 'complete' productions you could ask for. Even when production crumbled in the second half, it's still way above the average for TV anime.
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i don't hate mappa.but all mappa animations are, i don't know something is off about their animation.comparing mappa with other studious shows various difference in animating style
.what i think is that mappa's animations have too much contrast and it lacks colour efficiency.if u look at demon slayer animation and the jujutsu kaisen 0 movie.there are a lot of difference in colour efficiency.
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They're pretty trash generally and have ruined this series. Thankfully it can be redeemed, hopefully, Prod IG or WIT gets it off their hands. What a fucking shame such a masterpiece of a manga with such deep lore,  worldbuilding, and amazing fights has to be ruined by this meme studio. The disparity in quality between the manga and anime for this is insurmountable,.. 

???

Theyve been faithful to the source. Like I said in a thread before this season started, the manga is just rather mid battle story.
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Dixoncider8142 said:
Leon888 said:
I had never seen so much hatred towards such a popular studio, Ufotable, wit and kyotoanimation on the contrary I always hear a lot of praise, but the hatred for Mappa instead is really very big.
Ps: avoid comments like: "people like to complain" or "fans criticize anything" because I find them useless

I don’t necessarily hate MAPPA but I just don’t like when they release every single popular anime and then the anime ends up not being at the best quality as it should be. Most of the projects are rushed and sometimes the soundtrack gets repetitive. Animation does get impressive (sometimes) but most of the time is basic animation don’t get why ppl hype up the animation. Out of everything I like jjk and hells paradise. Aot and Csm were actually kind of mid ngl. MAPPA is a hit or miss for me tbh. I could think of other better studios on top of my head.

Name some of the projects you are talking about
Jun 22, 2023 7:41 AM
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I don't think MAPPA is bad, I'm just tired of seeing them. Too many high profile releases in too short of time with potentially more on the way. Studio variety would be nice
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Well I've loved many things Mappa puts out, but this show is quite obviously not one of their main projects.
Dunno why it's such a divisive studio tho, my friend hates Chainsaw Man with a passion, some argue the CGI in AOT is horrendous and ruins the entire thing for them.
Perhaps the hatred comes from the fact that they took over AOT. And for Chainsaw Man? Maybe people got annoyed with Makima fans or how horny the show is in general, or how visually different it was.
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Dixoncider8142 said:

I don’t necessarily hate MAPPA but I just don’t like when they release every single popular anime and then the anime ends up not being at the best quality as it should be. Most of the projects are rushed and sometimes the soundtrack gets repetitive. Animation does get impressive (sometimes) but most of the time is basic animation don’t get why ppl hype up the animation. Out of everything I like jjk and hells paradise. Aot and Csm were actually kind of mid ngl. MAPPA is a hit or miss for me tbh. I could think of other better studios on top of my head.

Name some of the projects you are talking about

Projects from MAPPA? Ngl csm was a disaster (coming from a manga reader) not really overreacting but when I read csm I actually enjoyed everything that I read, the anime dragged everything out and they put so much importance to minor fights. The direction was trash, the animation was mid, the story was dragged out due to the fights that weren’t even good, and not visually great compared to the manga bc the manga panels look better than the anime, also some scenes that were in the manga that looked amazing was edited out in the anime (also that one manga panel that was also in the trailer was changed when aki spawned the fox devil) and the comedy wasn’t funny in the anime while it was funny in the manga. And no they’re not excuses, only ppl who didn’t read the manga say that bc they’re illiterate and can’t read. The manga is superior than the anime.
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Name some of the projects you are talking about

Projects from MAPPA? Ngl csm was a disaster (coming from a manga reader) not really overreacting but when I read csm I actually enjoyed everything that I read, the anime dragged everything out and they put so much importance to minor fights. The direction was trash, the animation was mid, the story was dragged out due to the fights that weren’t even good, and not visually great compared to the manga bc the manga panels look better than the anime, also some scenes that were in the manga that looked amazing was edited out in the anime (also that one manga panel that was also in the trailer was changed when aki spawned the fox devil) and the comedy wasn’t funny in the anime while it was funny in the manga. And no they’re not excuses, only ppl who didn’t read the manga say that bc they’re illiterate and can’t read. The manga is superior than the anime.


Great. Another retard who says a bunch of non-sensical shit. I read the manga long before the anime got announced and there was not a single thing wrong with the adaptation. The only illiterate dumbass here is you.
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Projects from MAPPA? Ngl csm was a disaster (coming from a manga reader) not really overreacting but when I read csm I actually enjoyed everything that I read, the anime dragged everything out and they put so much importance to minor fights. The direction was trash, the animation was mid, the story was dragged out due to the fights that weren’t even good, and not visually great compared to the manga bc the manga panels look better than the anime, also some scenes that were in the manga that looked amazing was edited out in the anime (also that one manga panel that was also in the trailer was changed when aki spawned the fox devil) and the comedy wasn’t funny in the anime while it was funny in the manga. And no they’re not excuses, only ppl who didn’t read the manga say that bc they’re illiterate and can’t read. The manga is superior than the anime.


Great. Another retard who says a bunch of non-sensical shit. I read the manga long before the anime got announced and there was not a single thing wrong with the adaptation. The only illiterate dumbass here is you.

Lmao look at this guy with the fake account, btw what makes the anime better? Aside from it having colors bc everytime when I press these guys they throw tantrums and can’t necessarily explain themselves. I want u to explain urself now bitch
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Hopefully Mappa will animate the fight between these 2 titans.
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There are people hating MAPPA but honelsty ufotable is amazing
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