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what if it was done by kyoani. No shade on madhouse tho, this thing is already great

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Dec 4, 2023 8:38 AM
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random thought but what if this show was done by kyoani. No shade on madhouse because they already done a very great job. I mean the character style somewhat reminds me of kyoani character. And like the fights, dragons, magic beam, and fantasy story remind me of kobayashi :D

no shade on madhouse please this is just random thoughts
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Dec 4, 2023 9:02 AM
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as for OP, I think KyoAni animating this would be very similar quality wise. Don't think it'd make that huge of a difference.
Dec 4, 2023 9:04 AM
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Music will probably be better
Dec 4, 2023 9:08 AM
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Cestlavie_ said:
Music will probably be better

the music is already god tier though
Dec 4, 2023 9:08 AM
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I do not think this series matches the generally tone of most kyoani shows, and it is unlikely that frieren could have become low tier god if they were the ones animating it.
Dec 4, 2023 9:29 AM
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If Kyoani did this:

Scenery shots would look better...

Music would be the same...since the music director for this show came from them anyway...

The directing can only be matched if Naoko Yamada is the one handling this show...

Im not sure about the action scenes since Dragonmaid S2 actually has good animation in its fight scenes when again its not their selling point...

The sad & sentimental & deep emotional moments would be good if not better...

Humor will be less funny especially when it involves a male to female interaction...

We will have a hard time simping or cheering for the villains if Kyoani handled it...

For some reason...Madhouse is better than Kyoani on that...
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Dec 4, 2023 9:52 AM
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Hitagi__Furude said:
If Kyoani did this:

Scenery shots would look better...

Music would be the same...since the music director for this show came from them anyway...

The directing can only be matched if Naoko Yamada is the one handling this show...

Im not sure about the action scenes since Dragonmaid S2 actually has good animation in its fight scenes when again its not their selling point...

The sad & sentimental & deep emotional moments would be good if not better...

Humor will be less funny especially when it involves a male to female interaction...

We will have a hard time simping or cheering for the villains if Kyoani handled it...

For some reason...Madhouse is better than Kyoani on that...

wow i haven't thought that far :D
but yeah all of it make sense.

i guess if the animation stuffs was done by kyoani but the story and direction done by madhouse this show would be just on a different level.

but yeah thx for your opinion πŸ‘
Dec 4, 2023 10:00 AM
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Cestlavie_ said:
Music will probably be better

kinda agree with u, for the OP and ED kinda wished that it was more folk vibe and less pop.

but nonetheless, yoasobi and milet drop some banger tho πŸ‘
Dec 4, 2023 10:02 AM
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Cestlavie_ said:
Music will probably be better

kinda agree with u, for the OP and ED kinda wished that it was more folk vibe and less pop.

but nonetheless, yoasobi and milet drop some banger tho πŸ‘
@tudututut

Something like Violet Evergarden OP wouldve been a better opening...

Heck!!!

The ED shouldve been the OP!!!
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Dec 4, 2023 10:14 AM

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Music will probably be better
@Cestlavie_ Music is done by same guy who worked on Violet Evergarden.
Dec 4, 2023 10:22 AM

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As Hitagi__Furude already mentioned above. It would have been visually and emotionally better. And would have more detailed facial expressions (even with those stoic faces).

Nevertheless these are just what KyoAni is best at. I'm not sure about fighting scenes but when it comes to make characters naturally human and emotionally alive, I prefer KyoAni over any other studios.

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Dec 4, 2023 10:37 AM

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PoisonedSandwich said:
Cestlavie_ said:
Music will probably be better

the music is already god tier though

it's good but doesn't fit the show well imo
Dec 4, 2023 10:38 AM

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Cestlavie_ said:
Music will probably be better

the music is already god tier though

it's good but doesn't fit the show well imo
@Friedrich-kyn The music fit really well.
Dec 4, 2023 10:38 AM

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It would be even more PEAK.
Dec 4, 2023 10:46 AM

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@Friedrich-kyn The music fit really well.

eh, different tastes I guess
Dec 4, 2023 10:48 AM

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It would be even more PEAK.
@Piromysl What would have been it's highest MAL score then ?
Dec 4, 2023 10:58 AM
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What if it was done by Shaft?
Dec 4, 2023 11:34 AM
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I think it would look worse. I can’t imagine a better artstyle for this anime. KyoAni is obviously good, but Madhouse fit this just fine.
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Dec 4, 2023 11:34 AM
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The action wouldn’t look nearly as good
Dec 4, 2023 12:10 PM
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Madhouse is amazing, but to be honest, I've also had ideas like this.
KyoAni will have smoother character movements...
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They are suitable for adapting Witch Hat of Atelier.
Dec 4, 2023 12:21 PM
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i will up the score more if this is kyoani knowing the future anime sequels will have guaranteed great production quality

the reason i score anime adaptations as 7/10 as the highest most of the time is because anime sequels usually have a downgrade look at examples like one punch man, mushoku tensei and even attack on titan with all the 3dcg hate it gets on its sequels
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@Piromysl What would have been it's highest MAL score then ?
@ZXEAN It would have highest score even after it finishes airing.
Dec 4, 2023 1:22 PM
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It's a different style than KA, I think the style Madhouse is doing fits the manga tone 100% it is a match made in Nirvana. KA style would be too disney, great as it is. Frieren is actually nothing like VE it is less sentimental, more character studies, way funnier, better all round actually. Madhouse are doing it 100% right.
Dec 4, 2023 2:24 PM
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Perish the thought. I wouldn't want this show all glistening and annoyingly pretty. Madhouse is doing great work here.
Dec 4, 2023 5:47 PM

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@ZXEAN It would have highest score even after it finishes airing.
@Piromysl I don't think so. The director played a big role for it's success. Madhouse is an all-round studio and they brought their A-team for this project unlike KyoAni who are generally known for slice of life anime.
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I want them to do witch hat atelier. Another highly acclaimed fantasy anime on or above frieren tier imo. It’s coming at some point although we don’t know what studio yet. But rn I think madhouse has done a kyoani level job on frieren for sure. Tbh maybe even better. I think Yuichiro Fukushi is just about the best thing you can hope to see on any anime you are gonna be watching
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Hitagi__Furude said:
If Kyoani did this:

Scenery shots would look better...

Music would be the same...since the music director for this show came from them anyway...

The directing can only be matched if Naoko Yamada is the one handling this show...

Im not sure about the action scenes since Dragonmaid S2 actually has good animation in its fight scenes when again its not their selling point...

The sad & sentimental & deep emotional moments would be good if not better...

Humor will be less funny especially when it involves a male to female interaction...

We will have a hard time simping or cheering for the villains if Kyoani handled it...

For some reason...Madhouse is better than Kyoani on that...

I don’t think it quite works like that….
Dec 4, 2023 8:14 PM
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It all depends on the DIRECTOR.

Damn, these discussions are so weird. The KyoAni style people talk about is Naoko Yamadas style, a studio is just a tag. Warner Bros are not the reason Inception is a fantastic film, it is the personnel used for the movie.
Dec 4, 2023 9:01 PM

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It all depends on the DIRECTOR.

Damn, these discussions are so weird. The KyoAni style people talk about is Naoko Yamadas style, a studio is just a tag. Warner Bros are not the reason Inception is a fantastic film, it is the personnel used for the movie.
@Rafiikii You are 100% true.
Dec 5, 2023 1:37 AM
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Cestlavie_ said:
Music will probably be better

same composer as violet evergarden so even if it was kyoani it would probably be the same
Dec 5, 2023 1:44 AM
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@Yobbzmm not funny didn't laugh, kid
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It would be shorter.
Dec 5, 2023 4:30 AM

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Cestlavie_ said:
Music will probably be better

the music is already god tier though
@PoisonedSandwich what's god tier with the music?
Dec 5, 2023 4:45 AM

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TRC_Randy said:
@PoisonedSandwich what's god tier with the music?

It just means that the music is very good
Dec 5, 2023 7:03 AM
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KyoAni likes Slice of Life but Tohru vs Elma is really something

Maybe it might fit well if KyoAni adopt frieren like they did in Violet Evergarden.

Madhouse did it well already
Dec 5, 2023 12:57 PM
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It would have less episodes and take more time to get ready. Quality would be the same.
Dec 5, 2023 2:12 PM

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It wouldnt have been as good.
Madhouse is the best
Dec 5, 2023 3:55 PM
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surprised madhouse didn't just say whatever and just CGI the entire show.
Dec 6, 2023 3:36 PM

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The action wouldn’t look nearly as good
@OvergrownRover Someone never watched Violet Evergarden, Dragon Maid, or Beyond the Boundary.
Dec 7, 2023 6:14 PM

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I think if KyoAni did this the color of everything will be a bit vibrant or at least less dull. Not that there's anything wrong with the show as is.

And probably more camera angles?
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Dec 7, 2023 6:19 PM

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It all depends on the DIRECTOR.

Damn, these discussions are so weird. The KyoAni style people talk about is Naoko Yamadas style, a studio is just a tag. Warner Bros are not the reason Inception is a fantastic film, it is the personnel used for the movie.
@Rafiikii True enough. But I heard KyoAni mostly uses in-studio staff (as in not outsourcing to, say, DR. Movie) like a lot of studios do so shows produced by KyoAni generally have more consistent quality. Still it depends on the director and the individual staff who are working on a show.
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I think if KyoAni did this the color of everything will be a bit vibrant or at least less dull. Not that there's anything wrong with the show as is.

And probably more camera angles?
@Yuu_Kanzaki If KyoAni worked on this project they would have focus more on slice of life and nullified the action scenes.
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It's already Violet Evergarden. But if KyoAni took this, at worst, it would be called a VE clone.
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@Yuu_Kanzaki If KyoAni worked on this project they would have focus more on slice of life and nullified the action scenes.
@ZXEAN Not necessarily. Maid Dragon and Violet have great action scenes, though the two are exceptions.
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What if it was done by Shaft?
@salarx shaft is clearly not at its peak rn, so wasted potential.
Dec 8, 2023 8:22 AM
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It all depends on the DIRECTOR.

Damn, these discussions are so weird. The KyoAni style people talk about is Naoko Yamadas style, a studio is just a tag. Warner Bros are not the reason Inception is a fantastic film, it is the personnel used for the movie.
@Rafiikii Kyoto Animation is actually pretty much the only case in the industry where you *can* perceive a strong studio identity, so it wouldn't be "disrespectful" to praise them as a team instead of going through every single staff member imo
Dec 8, 2023 8:29 AM
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@Rafiikii Kyoto Animation is actually pretty much the only case in the industry where you *can* perceive a strong studio identity, so it wouldn't be "disrespectful" to praise them as a team instead of going through every single staff member imo

Kyoani and to some extent Trigger and Ufotable. I know, but when people talk about studios good efforts, it rarely is. Most of the giants like MAPPA, Cloverworks, Toei, etc have selected teams and directors they finance. Praising a studio to feels almost like praising the software you use to make the anime.

You praise a studio for aquiring a work, but the team are the ones who make the product. It's the same where people praise Elon Musk for anything good Tesla or SpaceX
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@Rafiikii Kyoto Animation is actually pretty much the only case in the industry where you *can* perceive a strong studio identity, so it wouldn't be "disrespectful" to praise them as a team instead of going through every single staff member imo

Kyoani and to some extent Trigger and Ufotable. I know, but when people talk about studios good efforts, it rarely is. Most of the giants like MAPPA, Cloverworks, Toei, etc have selected teams and directors they finance. Praising a studio to feels almost like praising the software you use to make the anime.

You praise a studio for aquiring a work, but the team are the ones who make the product. It's the same where people praise Elon Musk for anything good Tesla or SpaceX
@Rafiikii true that, most of the time people will judge based on the building's name instead of the key people behind their projects, the animators themselves aren't particularly happy about that, especially when they aren't affiliated with those buildings, it's not the case of the likes of KyoAni or Trigger but it's just sad
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I would fucking barf.

Believe me when I say, it will have so much fucking lighting shenanigans you'll think its a fucking video game with garbage Ambient Occlusion and HDR implementation.

Thank fucking god this wasnt done by Kyoani staff.
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You would likely get noticeably less cringe clickbait titled video essays from Anitubers like "Frieren saved Madhouse".
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