Did CJ Dachamp ruin this series?

Oct 21, 3:35 AM

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I love how people assume MAL represents all the watchers of a show.

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Oct 21, 3:59 AM

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I love how people assume MAL represents all the watchers of a show.

@Laplace_kun MAL is the largest anime database and yes i'd say MAL is the most accurate representation of how many people have seen it. I'm sure there's only a very tiny amount of people that watch an anime who don't use MAL... afterall how else are you going to track what you watch and keep up with it? People use MAL for that, for tracking progress and finding new anime.

The other percentage of people are just crunchyroll users but you could still look at the ratings on crunchyroll only 71k people have watched it on there, still not even close to MAL

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Oct 21, 4:08 AM

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AnimeDownUnder said:
@Laplace_kun MAL is the largest anime database and yes i'd say MAL is the most accurate representation of how many people have seen it. I'm sure there's only a very tiny amount of people that watch an anime who don't use MAL... afterall how else are you going to track what you watch and keep up with it? People use MAL for that, for tracking progress and finding new anime.

The other percentage of people are just crunchyroll users but you could still look at the ratings on crunchyroll only 71k people have watched it on there, still not even close to MAL

Barely anyone I know beside me uses MAL. Neither do most of the casual audience who just watches whatever catches their interest, and have no reason to keep a list of what they have watched.

I might have watched over 10000 movies but they are listed nowhere.

edit: also take a look at where the more populated countries stand in Crunchyroll stats: (2021)

The world is a bigger place than whatever MAL and Crunchyroll community is.

Laplace_kunOct 21, 4:17 AM

"All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo

Oct 21, 4:12 AM

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Also many of the more "normie" audiences I know of feel watching anitubers is a supreme waste of time. Even in COVID period when Trash Taste was booming, they'd rather watch more shows than spend time indulging in alternative media.

And yeah, they might look up the web and see the anime summary/genre using MAL. Sign in and make an account? Nah.

Laplace_kunOct 21, 4:20 AM

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Oct 21, 4:13 AM

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This entire thing feels like that argument anime reactors uses that copyright will "kill off the show" when they are barely responsible for 1% of the show's generated revenue.

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Oct 21, 4:29 AM

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AnimeDownUnder said:
@Laplace_kun MAL is the largest anime database and yes i'd say MAL is the most accurate representation of how many people have seen it. I'm sure there's only a very tiny amount of people that watch an anime who don't use MAL... afterall how else are you going to track what you watch and keep up with it? People use MAL for that, for tracking progress and finding new anime.

The other percentage of people are just crunchyroll users but you could still look at the ratings on crunchyroll only 71k people have watched it on there, still not even close to MAL

I want you to scroll through the top 50 anime on here and look at how many members some of them have. You cannot honestly tell me you think MAL is in any way an accurate representation of how many people have seen a show. If you honestly think only 3.5 million people have watched FMAB or that only a million people watched Frieren then you're absolutely delusional. Or look at the new Demon Slayer movie. It has sold nearly 70 million tickets yet according to you the more accurate number of people who have seen it would be somewhere around 300k. Even if we account for people who saw it multiple times that shit just does not add up.

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Oct 21, 4:56 AM

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Hi, so I noticed the youtuber CJ Dachamp made a video about this anime where he got over 3 million views and in that video he spoiled the show for everyone. Now based on the members on MAL only 961k people have seen this anime. That means the other 2+ million people watched the CJ Dachamp video and got the entire anime spoiled for them and they never went on to watch the actual anime. I'm just saying this youtube has ruined the popularity and success of To Your Eternity and I think that's quite unfair to do that. I'm a believer youtubers if they make a video should avoid spoilers but should also revealing to much of an anime so it still encourages people to watch the anime on their own.

This is the video below but don't watch it if you haven't seen To Your Eternity yet the video contains spoilers

Entire anime=season 1? Not everyone makes a list of what they've watched, nor does everyone who makes one use mal, I know people who simply have a list of names in the note app, they simply don't need to surf the information that mal offers or even don't know about its existence. Do you seriously think thet there is only 5/10 million anime watchers worldwide? Jujutsu Kaisen manga has sold over 100 million copies and you think that
only 3 million watched anime?
If you're serious then I hope you'll think about it a little more. If you're trolling, grow up.

Oct 21, 6:13 AM

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This video was the reason I started TYE personally so

Oct 21, 6:31 AM

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I have never heard of this Youtuber.

Oct 21, 7:00 AM

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Sorry but I doubt one person can ruin an entire anime/series. 3 million views? There are more than 3 million anime watchers I'm sure this one is safe plus he made the video years ago let's be so fr now

Oct 21, 7:10 AM

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heh, spoilers finna kill so many people

Oct 21, 9:19 AM

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AnimeDownUnder said:
Hi, so I noticed the youtuber CJ Dachamp made a video about this anime where he got over 3 million views and in that video he spoiled the show for everyone. Now based on the members on MAL only 961k people have seen this anime. That means the other 2+ million people watched the CJ Dachamp video and got the entire anime spoiled for them and they never went on to watch the actual anime. I'm just saying this youtube has ruined the popularity and success of To Your Eternity and I think that's quite unfair to do that. I'm a believer youtubers if they make a video should avoid spoilers but should also revealing to much of an anime so it still encourages people to watch the anime on their own.

This is the video below but don't watch it if you haven't seen To Your Eternity yet the video contains spoilers

did he at least have a spoiler warning

Oct 21, 7:59 PM

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AnimeDownUnder said:
@Laplace_kun MAL is the largest anime database and yes i'd say MAL is the most accurate representation of how many people have seen it. I'm sure there's only a very tiny amount of people that watch an anime who don't use MAL... afterall how else are you going to track what you watch and keep up with it? People use MAL for that, for tracking progress and finding new anime.

The other percentage of people are just crunchyroll users but you could still look at the ratings on crunchyroll only 71k people have watched it on there, still not even close to MAL

Barely anyone I know beside me uses MAL. Neither do most of the casual audience who just watches whatever catches their interest, and have no reason to keep a list of what they have watched.

I might have watched over 10000 movies but they are listed nowhere.

edit: also take a look at where the more populated countries stand in Crunchyroll stats: (2021)

The world is a bigger place than whatever MAL and Crunchyroll community is.

@Laplace_kun IDK man the biggest anime youtubers in the world on the trashtaste podcast all use MAL and they always making videos and talking about MAL in their podcasts and all of their fanbase seems to be using MAL as well. So I'm gonna say majority of anime watchers use MAL

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Oct 21, 8:02 PM

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AnimeDownUnder said:
Hi, so I noticed the youtuber CJ Dachamp made a video about this anime where he got over 3 million views and in that video he spoiled the show for everyone. Now based on the members on MAL only 961k people have seen this anime. That means the other 2+ million people watched the CJ Dachamp video and got the entire anime spoiled for them and they never went on to watch the actual anime. I'm just saying this youtube has ruined the popularity and success of To Your Eternity and I think that's quite unfair to do that. I'm a believer youtubers if they make a video should avoid spoilers but should also revealing to much of an anime so it still encourages people to watch the anime on their own.

This is the video below but don't watch it if you haven't seen To Your Eternity yet the video contains spoilers

did he at least have a spoiler warning

@FreedomForcer yes there's a spoiler warning but that doesn't mean it didn't harm the original anime from making more money or being more successful than it would've been. Everyone basically watched this video and then spoiled it for themselves and then never went on to watch To Your Eternity after this.... How do I know this though? Well for example I watched so many youtubers react to this exact video and I asked them have you actually watched To Your Eternity they said no they haven't they just watched this video and then decided for themselves it doesn't seem like an anime they would like. Which is perfect example of how this CJ Dachamp guy ruined the series

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Oct 21, 8:07 PM

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@Laplace_kun MAL is the largest anime database and yes i'd say MAL is the most accurate representation of how many people have seen it. I'm sure there's only a very tiny amount of people that watch an anime who don't use MAL... afterall how else are you going to track what you watch and keep up with it? People use MAL for that, for tracking progress and finding new anime.

The other percentage of people are just crunchyroll users but you could still look at the ratings on crunchyroll only 71k people have watched it on there, still not even close to MAL

I want you to scroll through the top 50 anime on here and look at how many members some of them have. You cannot honestly tell me you think MAL is in any way an accurate representation of how many people have seen a show. If you honestly think only 3.5 million people have watched FMAB or that only a million people watched Frieren then you're absolutely delusional. Or look at the new Demon Slayer movie. It has sold nearly 70 million tickets yet according to you the more accurate number of people who have seen it would be somewhere around 300k. Even if we account for people who saw it multiple times that shit just does not add up.

@Imacd24 I know To Your Eternity has always been an underrated series that not many people have watched, and I know how many views and fans anime like Demon Slayer and My Hero Academia get.... which is precisely my point exactly to be honest, there is more than 3 million people on MAL and we know majority of them probably didn't watch To Your Eternity. But we know that CJ Dachamp got 3 million views and there's 3 million+ people on MAL so have to contribute CJ Dachamp to ruining the series honestly which explains why the numbers on MAL are so low too. Can you think of any other reasons why users of MAL wouldn't have seen To Your Eternity despite being recommended in almost every post and being in a lot of the seasonal anime lists with high ratings? I can figure this out, people go to youtube and look for trailers or videos of To Your Eternity and CJ Dachamps video shows up immediately they watch that and then spoil the anime and never watch the actual series

And let's just say i'm wrong about that, then we still know that 2million+ people watched CJ Dachamps video and never went on to watch the anime and that still ruined the series either way it prevented some of it's success. If those 3 million people actually watched To Your Eternity the anime would've made way more money

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Oct 21, 8:53 PM

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@Imacd24 I know To Your Eternity has always been an underrated series that not many people have watched, and I know how many views and fans anime like Demon Slayer and My Hero Academia get.... which is precisely my point exactly to be honest, there is more than 3 million people on MAL and we know majority of them probably didn't watch To Your Eternity. But we know that CJ Dachamp got 3 million views and there's 3 million+ people on MAL so have to contribute CJ Dachamp to ruining the series honestly which explains why the numbers on MAL are so low too. Can you think of any other reasons why users of MAL wouldn't have seen To Your Eternity despite being recommended in almost every post and being in a lot of the seasonal anime lists with high ratings? I can figure this out, people go to youtube and look for trailers or videos of To Your Eternity and CJ Dachamps video shows up immediately they watch that and then spoil the anime and never watch the actual series

And let's just say i'm wrong about that, then we still know that 2million+ people watched CJ Dachamps video and never went on to watch the anime and that still ruined the series either way it prevented some of it's success. If those 3 million people actually watched To Your Eternity the anime would've made way more money

@AnimeDownUnder What you just said is so unbelievably nonsensical that I am genuinely at a loss for how to even argue against it and for my own sanity I just have to believe it's ragebait. If you truly cannot see why what you are saying doesn't make a lick of sense then there isn't any point in me trying to explain why there is likely zero correlation between this video and the amount of members the show has on MAL.

Oct 21, 11:06 PM

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@Laplace_kun IDK man the biggest anime youtubers in the world on the trashtaste podcast all use MAL and they always making videos and talking about MAL in their podcasts and all of their fanbase seems to be using MAL as well. So I'm gonna say majority of anime watchers use MAL

I really, really hope you are wasting time trolling. Otherwise, man, I feel genuinely sorry for your current mental health if you think what you said was remotely logical. Your anitubers and the people watching them barely make up 10% of anime watchers around the planet (I am being generous). Get well soon, mate.

Laplace_kunOct 21, 11:15 PM

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nope lol

most people could care less about a YT video

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goofiest thread of all time

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@Laplace_kun IDK man the biggest anime youtubers in the world on the trashtaste podcast all use MAL and they always making videos and talking about MAL in their podcasts and all of their fanbase seems to be using MAL as well. So I'm gonna say majority of anime watchers use MAL

They use MAL’s statistics because there’s no better source of stats to use. That doesn’t mean that MAL’s stats are actually good. Thinking that the stats on MAL are a fully accurate representation of the viewing habits and tastes of every anime watcher on earth would be like assuming that a political survey done on a college campus is an accurate portrayal of how every person in the country feels about that issue. The sample size MAL had to work with is only a tiny fraction of the “anime community,” which is itself a tiny fraction of the total people who watch anime. The only people on here are ones who consider anime a hobby, that doesn’t apply to most people who watch it

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I love how people assume MAL represents all the watchers of a show.

Like how Eyehsield 21 has 26 million sales worldwide but only 50k members who even read it on MAL. @Laplace_kun

Also, why would people watch a video on spoilers without having seen it. Pretty foolish tbh

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