naoya and jerk appeal

are you a fan of naoya?

Jan 29, 7:08 PM

lagom

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naoya reminds me of bakugo they have the jerk appeal like always being on the top 10 popularity rankings especially among fangirls voters

so how about you? are you a fan of him? i voted his power is cool though just like with the cool power of bakugo

Jan 29, 7:48 PM

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when maki punched his face I realised it was the most appealing face he ever had😌

Jan 29, 8:50 PM

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There's no comparison to be made here.

Bakugo ranks high because he's essentially an extra violent genderbent tsundere at heart. He's mean and angry, but we frequently get to see his own inferiority complex and the drive to get stronger.

Naoya isn't a meaningful character in any way. The reason he ranks high is because his lines were memed to hell and back by manga readers in Japan. Most of his key character traits end with '-ist' which isn't really a good look anyway.

Jan 29, 9:30 PM

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Naoya is chill, has a nice accent and is kind of a based traditionalist, so it’s hard to hate him even if he can take his hunger for power too far.

Jan 29, 10:14 PM

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certifiedbinger said:
There's no comparison to be made here.

Bakugo ranks high because he's essentially an extra violent genderbent tsundere at heart. He's mean and angry, but we frequently get to see his own inferiority complex and the drive to get stronger.

Naoya isn't a meaningful character in any way. The reason he ranks high is because his lines were memed to hell and back by manga readers in Japan. Most of his key character traits end with '-ist' which isn't really a good look anyway.

I second this. You described it perfectly.

Jan 29, 10:21 PM

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He is a jerk asshole and deserved what he got. But I like speed based power and I feel he was under utilised.

Jan 30, 9:51 AM

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He is a total jerk who was nothing but a nuisance. A cool power wasted on absolutely nothing!!

Jan 30, 9:54 AM

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@certifiedbinger jerk is a general word or term though and obviously if you go to specifics then most general comparisons is wrong

Jan 30, 10:41 AM

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As a person? Don't like him at all. As a character? He's great. There's a distinction between the two kinds of "likes." I tend to love problem causers because they're what makes things interesting most of the time. Nothing like watching some asshole creating tension for the fun of it.

It also helps a lot that he's voiced by my 3rd favorite VA (Kouji Yusa). I tend to love nearly every character voiced by one of my top 3 VAs.

Jan 30, 10:43 AM

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@amentet true thats like separating fiction from reality so if you can do that then that is better its the same with separating the art from the artist

Jan 30, 10:53 AM

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deg said:
@amentet true thats like separating fiction from reality so if you can do that then that is better its the same with separating the art from the artist

I think there are many times where separating the two isn't a good idea, such as supporting a musician who has done awful things that you don't personally support by giving them money for concerts/their music/etc, or watching a series created by someone you don't want to support. I think these are valid scenarios where you don't want to separate because you're actively supporting a terrible person, financially or otherwise.

But this? Naoya isn't real *and* I will be always one of the first to agree he's an awful person, even if I do like him. I'm not supporting anyone real who is terrible because I'm not condoning his behavior. I like him because he's both terrible and not real. Both need to be true for me to still like him. But anyone who acts like this for real is someone I don't want anywhere near my life.

Jan 30, 10:55 AM

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deg said:
@amentet true thats like separating fiction from reality so if you can do that then that is better its the same with separating the art from the artist

@amentet ye true fiction like anime characters are harmless for the most part

Jan 30, 11:21 AM

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Why's this generic prick even talked about?

*kappa*

Jan 30, 11:22 AM

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Why's this generic prick even talked about?

@Zarutaku he is popular on social media especially in japan with the fangirls i heard

heck he has a meme of aura farming here https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IoMxK3kzhgo

Jan 30, 11:28 AM

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@Zarutaku he is popular on social media especially in japan with the fangirls i heard

heck he has a meme of aura farming here https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IoMxK3kzhgo

What do they like about him?

*kappa*

Jan 30, 11:30 AM

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What do they like about him?

@Zarutaku the usual jerk appeal is my guess and its the same with bakugo having a lot of japanese fangirls

Jan 30, 11:32 AM

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@Zarutaku the usual jerk appeal is my guess and its the same with bakugo having a lot of japanese fangirls

I understand jerk appeal, but he's so generic, nothing special about him.

*kappa*

Jan 30, 11:34 AM

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I understand jerk appeal, but he's so generic, nothing special about him.

@Zarutaku i heard the english translations loses a lot of the "aura" and "funny" japanese dialogues of naoya heck you can hear it in his distinct japanese accent alone

Jan 30, 2:06 PM

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I'm not a fan of him, but his power is indeed cool, so that's my vote.

I wouldn't mind having him around a bit longer. As the piece of shit that he is, he at least made things somewhat interesting.

Jan 30, 4:06 PM

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the only thing worth liking about naoya is his cousins.

Jan 31, 11:25 AM

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I felt like before the part where Maki wipes out the Zenin clan, they showed them a bit just so you could see what a bunch of assholes they are and feel satisfaction when they die. But for me it was more like “whatever.” I felt they tried way too hard to force you to hate the Zenin clan and Naoya, but when Maki actually kills them, I couldn’t really care less about any of them. I didn’t feel any satisfaction or anything when Naoya died

Feb 1, 4:54 AM

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He's not just a jerk. He is a disgusting, power-hungry, misogynistic, narcissistic lunatic. He has no ounce of respect for the people around him and only thinks about himself.

Remind you, he just wanted to kill Megumi because his grandfather declared in his will, that Megumi shall become the new Clan head. He disrespected his grandfather's will, by actively going against it.

And that's not even the worst thing he has done.

Who really likes this character, is a horrible person, imo.

Feb 2, 3:42 AM

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How does Naoya compare to any villain, much less Bakugo? A solid villain is the person having the most fun on screen at any given time. Ogata from Golden Kamuy and Mephisto from Blue Exorcist are great examples. Strength means nothing if you can't have fun existing. That's where the envy comes in. Admittedly, a lot of characters I would recommend get a lot of time to state their case not dedicated to fight choreography. Like explosion guy from FMA and Brotherhood. That's how to make a guy hate able and compelling at the same time.

So I nominate Andrea Calvicanti. This guy gets almost no screen time and his role is largely unimportant. In the JP dub, no one has more fun or does more depraved things than this guy. He might even be too much for JJK, if your metrics for too much go beyond pedestrian violence and typical manga/dark fantasy power dynamics.

I think Naoya like many characters in JJK exist because Gege creates characters to appeal to every type of fan. I think he's supposed to be a handsome typical bad boy who sparks some emotions then goes away. Ladies like bad boys the same way men like women they are attracted to. It doesn't have to make sense, it only needs to be accepted. Since I'm a guy, I prefer bad boys like Gaston from 1991 Beauty and the Beast. You can't just be a dick, you also have to be the dick that truly enjoys being a dick. Naoya is more like a list of unlikable traits combined with a power then given life as a fodder character.

Feb 9, 9:38 AM

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My only disappointment is that Maki didn’t beat him hard enough. Delete that entire sequence of nobody military fodders getting deleted from existence and just replace it with Naoya getting beaten and then I might have liked the anime a little bit more.

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