Why the call them "Heros"?

Feb 13, 10:42 PM

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That’s exactly why. The series subverts the typical fantasy hero trope by having the role be a punishment rather than a blessing or calling.

Feb 13, 10:44 PM

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CrunchyCrobat

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Heroes are ones who fight on the front line, but since being forced to fight in front line is the punishment and it sucks, it being call the hero sentence does make sense, not everyone wants to be a hero

And it is a subversion of the trope too

Feb 13, 10:53 PM

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ShadowGamesMY

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bruh did you skip episode 1 intro?

Feb 13, 10:55 PM

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bruh did you skip episode 1 intro?

@ShadowGamesMY Lol no, I was just was expecting a little more play/introspection by using the word hero in that regard, and we already on episode 6.

Feb 14, 12:11 AM

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it's a subversion of the typical fantasy trope. that's all. they fight the demon blight. you know how it is in fantasy stories. heroes fight demon lords and that's what this shows us.

Feb 14, 4:14 AM

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IhnalakoKaina

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it's an oxymoron. "condemned hero". In theory, it's supposed to make you ponder upon the deeper meaning of both concepts and how they contradict.

In reality, it makes me ponder why some people think this show is anything but a dull and empty action flick.

Feb 14, 4:23 AM

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Because being a hero forever is an extremely exhausting and dirty job almost nobody is willing to do, so it's a punishment for the worst felons.

*kappa*

Feb 14, 6:03 AM

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Many will assume that the author is simply subverting the meaning of the term "hero," but in reality it's something deeper, but I won't give any spoilers.

Feb 14, 6:17 AM

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the author wanted to subvert the typical trope of hero but honestly it seems lazy in execution when all he did was make all the characters good, not even anti heroes. Should've had the courage to make them grey somewhat. The only exception to this rule seems to Tsav where he does actually kill people.

Feb 14, 3:29 PM

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iamnobody321 said:
the author wanted to subvert the typical trope of hero but honestly it seems lazy in execution when all he did was make all the characters good, not even anti heroes. Should've had the courage to make them grey somewhat. The only exception to this rule seems to Tsav where he does actually kill people.

The hero squad seems to be comprised completely of political prisoners who know too much rather than actual violent criminals, which begs the question of why they don’t just kill them

Feb 14, 3:45 PM

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I think the author is trying to portray the idea of a “hero” from a minority or unconventional point of view — questioning whether a hero is someone who actually has people to rely on or someone who stands alone.

Feb 15, 12:44 AM

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SpinnerClowIsHot said:

iamnobody321 said:
the author wanted to subvert the typical trope of hero but honestly it seems lazy in execution when all he did was make all the characters good, not even anti heroes. Should've had the courage to make them grey somewhat. The only exception to this rule seems to Tsav where he does actually kill people.

The hero squad seems to be comprised completely of political prisoners who know too much rather than actual violent criminals, which begs the question of why they don’t just kill them

so that the anime could happen.

it's such a black and white world where everyone believes the government without giving it a second thought. This is one of the reasons that's a major turn off for me lorewise. There is an exchange of information everywhere and people refuse to believe anyone labelled a hero? I call bs.

Feb 15, 4:50 AM

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SpinnerClowIsHot said:

iamnobody321 said:
the author wanted to subvert the typical trope of hero but honestly it seems lazy in execution when all he did was make all the characters good, not even anti heroes. Should've had the courage to make them grey somewhat. The only exception to this rule seems to Tsav where he does actually kill people.

The hero squad seems to be comprised completely of political prisoners who know too much rather than actual violent criminals, which begs the question of why they don’t just kill them

so that the anime could happen.

it's such a black and white world where everyone believes the government without giving it a second thought. This is one of the reasons that's a major turn off for me lorewise. There is an exchange of information everywhere and people refuse to believe anyone labelled a hero? I call bs.

@iamnobody321 No, no, actually, it's quite understandable from a continental point of view. Look, this is an apocalyptic world where the remnants of humanity are gathered in a single country that is completely surrounded by demons. It wouldn't be surprising if the population were at the mercy of political, military, and, in the case of the anime, theocratic institutions.

This is also evident in the constant presence of women serving as knights on the front lines.
This signifies a clear scarcity of human resources, to the point where women are common on the battlefield. These small details, which are completely implicit, are a charm.

Feb 15, 2:29 PM

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jekfrumstotferm said:
That’s exactly why. The series subverts the typical fantasy hero trope by having the role be a punishment rather than a blessing or calling.

I guess what OP is trying to say is that the idea is kinda cheap and doesn’t really add anything interesting. And it kind of hurts the immersion a bit because calling them heroes doesn’t really make sense.

To me, the idea moreso seems like a way to reach out to a target audience than something that would improve the story.

Feb 15, 9:49 PM

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jekfrumstotferm said:
That’s exactly why. The series subverts the typical fantasy hero trope by having the role be a punishment rather than a blessing or calling.

I guess what OP is trying to say is that the idea is kinda cheap and doesn’t really add anything interesting. And it kind of hurts the immersion a bit because calling them heroes doesn’t really make sense.

To me, the idea moreso seems like a way to reach out to a target audience than something that would improve the story.

@ghier Yeah. The story should've provided this world's definition of a word "hero". If in their dictionary hero=scum or something, that would make sense. Calling them heroes as a mockery would be stupid since there are normal people out there who I believe do heroic deeds. So do they call actual heroes "braves" or maybe the opposite like "scum" or something?
Yeah, I also think it's kind of cheap move, like a bait title almost, to use the word Hero for worst criminals everyone hates. Like, why don't just use a proper word or maybe invent a new right?

Feb 16, 5:18 AM

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@ghier Yeah. The story should've provided this world's definition of a word "hero". If in their dictionary hero=scum or something, that would make sense. Calling them heroes as a mockery would be stupid since there are normal people out there who I believe do heroic deeds. So do they call actual heroes "braves" or maybe the opposite like "scum" or something?
Yeah, I also think it's kind of cheap move, like a bait title almost, to use the word Hero for worst criminals everyone hates. Like, why don't just use a proper word or maybe invent a new right?

@Sigmar-Unberogen Your reasoning is on the right track, but I doubt you'll guess why heroes are called heroes in this world.

So far, I've seen many opinions in many different places, and no one has come close to figuring it out.
And most likely no one will figure it out on their own, but rather they will receive a spoiler on other social networks

Feb 16, 10:02 AM

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Desmascarado said:
@iamnobody321 No, no, actually, it's quite understandable from a continental point of view. Look, this is an apocalyptic world where the remnants of humanity are gathered in a single country that is completely surrounded by demons. It wouldn't be surprising if the population were at the mercy of political, military, and, in the case of the anime, theocratic institutions.

This is also evident in the constant presence of women serving as knights on the front lines.
This signifies a clear scarcity of human resources, to the point where women are common on the battlefield. These small details, which are completely implicit, are a charm.

Woman on the battlefront is too common in anime for it to imply anything about the world. We kinda just assume they do it to have female characters.

Feb 16, 10:04 AM

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Desmascarado said:
@Sigmar-Unberogen Your reasoning is on the right track, but I doubt you'll guess why heroes are called heroes in this world.

So far, I've seen many opinions in many different places, and no one has come close to figuring it out.
And most likely no one will figure it out on their own, but rather they will receive a spoiler on other social networks

Honestly, if it’s like a political thing where interests of a corrupt coalition or religious group want to paint heroes as villains, they’d have an easier time blasting misinformation into the world than contorting the meaning of the word hero.

Feb 16, 10:50 AM

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Desmascarado said:
@iamnobody321 No, no, actually, it's quite understandable from a continental point of view. Look, this is an apocalyptic world where the remnants of humanity are gathered in a single country that is completely surrounded by demons. It wouldn't be surprising if the population were at the mercy of political, military, and, in the case of the anime, theocratic institutions.

This is also evident in the constant presence of women serving as knights on the front lines.
This signifies a clear scarcity of human resources, to the point where women are common on the battlefield. These small details, which are completely implicit, are a charm.

Woman on the battlefront is too common in anime for it to imply anything about the world. We kinda just assume they do it to have female characters.

@ghier I know that, but in the light novel, this is explained along with explanations about the world's geopolitics.

Unfortunately or fortunately, the anime is cutting out or simply leaving these explanations from the light novel implicit. This makes the anime's narrative more cohesive and less rigid or tedious, but it ends up generating many doubts in people who are watching but don't connect the dots of the plot.

Feb 16, 10:56 AM

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Desmascarado said:
@Sigmar-Unberogen Your reasoning is on the right track, but I doubt you'll guess why heroes are called heroes in this world.

So far, I've seen many opinions in many different places, and no one has come close to figuring it out.
And most likely no one will figure it out on their own, but rather they will receive a spoiler on other social networks

Honestly, if it’s like a political thing where interests of a corrupt coalition or religious group want to paint heroes as villains, they’d have an easier time blasting misinformation into the world than contorting the meaning of the word hero.

@ghier I have a great comparison to make between another anime and the term "hero" in Sentenced, but I'll wait for the revelations to happen, although I'm sure influencers will be giving unnecessary spoilers to gain engagement about it soon.

Feb 16, 11:35 AM

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@Desmascarado I’m doubtful 😅 but I’ll keep in mind that there should be an explanation.

Honestly though, I think it’s kind of hard for viewers generally to get over those kinds of reservations. Later explanations are very easily disregarded when you have reservations from the start. It’s like an ongoing limit on how invested they can become. And because they’re not that invested for a prolonged period, whatever reasoning comes out later to explain away their reservations likely comes across as “eh” when they see it.

It’s also why AOT haters are hard to convert, so convinced that the lack of subtlety in the first season’s direction is emblematic of little depth or thought. And it’s also why the first impression is always the most important in anything you put out there. Just being real, I think the writer capped the story’s potential reach when they went with this idea.

Feb 16, 2:19 PM

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Its just stupid authors tendency of trying to act like a smartass. Case in point look at Oda and his MC who wants to be the king of pirates even though he is the kindest person in the whole show and never steals anything or does any pirate like things

Feb 19, 8:22 AM

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Because they still act heroically, but only because they’re forced to and aren’t allowed to die.

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