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BlueMoonTornado said: Anime onlies are really gonna be confused by the changes the anime made for the worse in Golden Bath. So glad I picked up the manga and novels around Ep2. Here's an explanation that I hope makes sense. First of all, this game is designed to be as unfair to Yuki as possible aka how she wakes up late halfway after the teams are formed, Riko is an OP killer player on the other team with body modification (not explained in the anime), and then eventually everything that happens against Mishiro leads Yuki to win in the most half-assed way possible. She realizes that everything that let her survive in this game was luck. Now as for the events of the game itself: Yuki realizes too late that there's 2 baths, and thus 100 total players instead of 50. The baths only connect at the entrance (where Mishiro is camping), and at the open air bath on the opposite side of the building (where Yuki is). Mishiro sends a team led by Riko to ambush them by scaling the wall between the two sides of the open air bath. This results in one death and all of their keys being stolen. At this point their only options are to stay and die or rush the girls at the entrance and hope for the best. Yuki, Azuma, and a few others start running to the entrance but get intercepted by Mishiro and her lackeys, who trip and drown everyone but Yuki. Mishiro and Yuki have their final showdown, which ends with Yuki stabbing Mishiro through the neck. At the entrance, Yuki finds Riko waiting. They have a brief conversation and then a fight where Yuki just gets bodied because Riko has prosthetic metal limbs that easily break Yuki's arms. In a last ditch effort, Yuki dons some shoes from an already unlocked locker to cross the electrified floor, and Riko pursues her on all fours wearing shoes on her hands and feet. Yuki kicks up a corpse that had been shot and electrified earlier for trying to leave without the right shoes, and it makes contact with Riko and the floor, allowing current to pass through her body and kill her, which is especially effective due to her metal limbs. The anime changed/cut a good bit of this, especially the fight with Riko. Wow, I thought this was by far the weakest episode storytelling-wise, so the cuts/changes you’ve explained really make things way more clear. It’s a shame that the adaptation for the rest of this game turned out like this. That being said, I have a bit of a different question regarding the telling of the events in the anime vs. the source material. Was there a reason for the anime showing things out of order, and does it also occur this way in the source material? Typically when we see events out of order in media, it’s for a specific reason, but in this scenario it felt like it served no purpose but to confuse the audience. In an already lackluster episode, this didn’t feel like the right move. They could have shown everything in order, and while not complete, would have been much more concise and understandable for the audience. I’d hate it if my only theory was correct, but I felt as if they were trying to take any and all emotion out of this episode, dehumanizing things further by not allowing us to have proper build up for the final events of this game. Though if that were the case it still would have been better to emphasize the tracker being removed, indicating the Yuki/side of Yuki wanting to take the game down has lost (for now?). Instead unless I’m just dumb and missed it, without your explanation I had 0 clue her late wakeup coincided with needing the tracker removed. All in all, it seems like the source material is a much better template to have under my belt, and then while understanding things fully, I can then enjoy the visual aspects that the show has to offer to the experience. |
KOTFTWFeb 23, 10:14 AM
nenosuns said: @FluffyExpress not op, but also light novel reader here~ in the light novel, things are also shown out of order, at least for the first games. the novel opens up with Ghost House, just like in the anime, but after Ghost House they jump to Yuki's 9th game, called Candle Woods. Candle Woods was a massacre, just like Golden Bath was, and left a deep impact on Yuki. It was there that she lost her mentor, Hakushi (the girl she talks to about the 30th wall), watched a 100 girls being killed by a psychopath, and got her resolution to beat 99 games. After Candle Woods, Yuki stays out of games for a while, then the second volume starts from her 10th game, Scrap Building, where she meets Mishiro for the first time. It pretty much follows chronologically after that, though skipping some games in between, with the next one being Golden Bath, followed by her 44th game in the next volume. So my bet is that the authors wanted to throw us in the middle of a game right from the start (in this case, Ghost House) to get us acclimatized with how they work and who Yuki is as a character, before showing us her past and what made her keep playing these deranged games in the first place, then falling into a steady rhythm of her getting closer to her 99th game. I'm not sure why the anime decided to change it up and put all these other games before Candle Woods, though. My bet is that they're leaving Candle Woods for the final episodes, but at the same time is a bit of a questionable decision in my opinion, since it's so formative of Yuki's character, and why Golden Bath left a much deeper scar on her than just her lost fingers afterward.... Anyway, hope this helps you piece things together! I was more referring to the final events of the bathhouse game being shown out of order in the anime, and wondering if that was also the case in the LN. Nevertheless, your mention of the candle woods game helps add a lot more meaning to what I was looking for in this game, thank you! This game definitely would have had more impact if the candle woods game had been shown prior to us seeing these events. I agree, it does seem quite odd that such a seemingly character-defining game would still not have made its appearance yet. Honestly I still feel like it furthers my theory that the production behind this simply wants to maximize the morality of this show being “different” by dehumanizing things as much as possible until they finally reach a better shock value point production-wise. Feels like they think they’re doing what will sell, and while maybe it will for some, in my eyes it quite frankly is doing the opposite for me. From what I’ve read from you and others, it almost feels to me like the production team is belittling important themes from the LN that should have been ingrained in consumers from close to the start |
| What was all this about an electrified floor? I saw of course the automatic drone guns positioned from above, but wasn't able to discern anything from the way the scene was shot as to whether they fired regular bullets, something else, and/or if they fired bullets of any kind yet the characters subjected to it (Riko in this case) died by different means? What was shown in the episode to indicate the floor was electrified and anyone was dying by way of electrocution, other than the boots? Because, firstly, I couldn't know the texture and material they were made of just from seeing boots and second, even if knowing they were rubber, wouldn't have automatically made the leap to assume electrified floors and insulation against electrocution. So was something else shown that I missed or was any further detail revealing that omitted? |
WatchTillTandava said: What was all this about an electrified floor? I saw of course the automatic drone guns positioned from above, but wasn't able to discern anything from the way the scene was shot as to whether they fired regular bullets, something else, and/or if they fired bullets of any kind yet the characters subjected to it (Riko in this case) died by different means? What was shown in the episode to indicate the floor was electrified and anyone was dying by way of electrocution, other than the boots? Because, firstly, I couldn't know the texture and material they were made of just from seeing boots and second, even if knowing they were rubber, wouldn't have automatically made the leap to assume electrified floors and insulation against electrocution. So was something else shown that I missed or was any further detail revealing that omitted? In the same boat with you on this. There was quite literally no point in them using the boots as a plot device when the entire way Riko died was changed. They’re the only semblance of a hint regarding the floor, and the floor didn’t even come into play after the changes made in the anime. |
| I'm also confused with the storyline of Golden Bath, I've watched it twice and got nothing |
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| Please use spoiler tags just in care. Be careful when comparing the show to the manga, you might be spoiling points explained in the next episode. Assuming the show won't keep ignoring it 🙏. |
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