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Jan 29, 2011 8:43 AM
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Fun and expressive animation (basically a mix of 70s aesthetics with a noticeable hint of early Ghibli), great direction that makes sure things never get boring or draggy and a narrative that somehow mixes immature ball jokes with family drama seamlessly creating a movie that takes itself very seriously and doesn't at the same time and never loses its cartoony feel. WATCH IT NOW.
May 29, 2011 1:40 PM
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I'll agree, but I find it a little awkward how obviously it's an adaptation of a serialization. Chie's parent's gradual reconciliation makes more sense over the course of several installments rather than the course of a single movie, and similarly the transformation of the yakuza boss into an okonomiyaki shack owner.

More than only a little awkward is how the whole movie plays out with Chie as the center only to finish with a kung-fu movie parody with the CATS of all things.
Mar 10, 2013 4:03 AM
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This was much better than I expected. The last 20 minutes could have been left out though.
Oct 27, 2013 5:14 AM
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Suna_Kujira said:
This was much better than I expected. The last 20 minutes could have been left out though.

Why wouldn't you expect an Isao Takahata film to be great?

Also, the fight between the cats at the end was aweosme.
Mar 31, 2015 7:15 PM
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busterbeam said:
Suna_Kujira said:
This was much better than I expected. The last 20 minutes could have been left out though.

Why wouldn't you expect an Isao Takahata film to be great?

Also, the fight between the cats at the end was aweosme.


Awesome? Yes. But incredibly out of place.
Oct 2, 2016 4:35 AM
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What a weird and anticlimactic ending. Should have ended at the train scene, especially at the part where Yoshie cries (while realizing how much more mature Chie has been compared to her parents), with her tears falling on Chie's face, who was sleeping in her lap, and the entire thing running in parallel to Chie having a dream about mending the holes in the roof of their house. Sure, it would have been a slightly abrupt ending, but far better than the non ending that we got.
Still, it gets a 7/10 from me. Would have given it an 8 if the movie had an actual conclusive ending.
Mar 22, 2017 3:16 AM
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I really liked this, it's a shame so few have seen it. I expected it to be somewhat like My Neighbors the Yamadas, but was fun to see some balls-jokes à la Pompoko as well.

It was weird that the climax was between the cats instead of Chie. I don't think it should have been cut cause I thought it was hilarious, but it would fit better somewhere else in the film. I agree that the train scene would be better as an ending.

Would definitely watch the TV-series if I ever find it.
May 9, 2017 12:31 AM
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Vhailor said:
What a weird and anticlimactic ending. Should have ended at the train scene, especially at the part where Yoshie cries (while realizing how much more mature Chie has been compared to her parents), with her tears falling on Chie's face, who was sleeping in her lap, and the entire thing running in parallel to Chie having a dream about mending the holes in the roof of their house. Sure, it would have been a slightly abrupt ending, but far better than the non ending that we got.
Still, it gets a 7/10 from me. Would have given it an 8 if the movie had an actual conclusive ending.


It's based on an episodic slice-of-life manga. Life doesn't have epic climaxes.
May 9, 2017 1:01 AM
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busterbeam said:
Vhailor said:
What a weird and anticlimactic ending. Should have ended at the train scene, especially at the part where Yoshie cries (while realizing how much more mature Chie has been compared to her parents), with her tears falling on Chie's face, who was sleeping in her lap, and the entire thing running in parallel to Chie having a dream about mending the holes in the roof of their house. Sure, it would have been a slightly abrupt ending, but far better than the non ending that we got.
Still, it gets a 7/10 from me. Would have given it an 8 if the movie had an actual conclusive ending.


It's based on an episodic slice-of-life manga. Life doesn't have epic climaxes.

I wasn't asking for an "epic mindblowing" climax. Just a more appropriate ending to the story that the movie was trying to tell using the material available at the time, instead of some random event slapped at the end, that completely broke the momentum of the movie.
Dec 7, 2017 12:18 PM

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Yeah... nah. Anyone who's familiar with Takahata's work will realize the truth in the statement that life doesn't have climaxes or neat and clear endings. That's what makes his stories special. The ending here fits in nicely with the tone established throughout.
Jan 11, 2019 1:56 PM

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Chie is great, but her father is awful. Completely insufferable no matter the circumstances.
Jan 6, 2020 9:49 AM

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Fronzel said:
I'll agree, but I find it a little awkward how obviously it's an adaptation of a serialization. Chie's parent's gradual reconciliation makes more sense over the course of several installments rather than the course of a single movie, and similarly the transformation of the yakuza boss into an okonomiyaki shack owner.

More than only a little awkward is how the whole movie plays out with Chie as the center only to finish with a kung-fu movie parody with the CATS of all things.


I pretty much agree with this. No matter how much I tried to like this film I couldn't. Not only for those reasons but also because of how unlikable every character other than Chie and the former Yakuza boss was.

Joshimatsoo said:
Yeah... nah. Anyone who's familiar with Takahata's work will realize the truth in the statement that life doesn't have climaxes or neat and clear endings. That's what makes his stories special. The ending here fits in nicely with the tone established throughout.


I'd agree if it ended with a sort of slice of life non-ending, but it didn't, it ended with an awkward and out of place scene of two cat's fighting. Maybe earlier in the film this would have fit, but at this point in the film the tone had shifted dramatically and the scene seemed tacked on and out of line with the shift in tone. It should have ended with something related to Chie and her parents relationship and not that. Maybe it had been a while since you saw the film and you forgot how it ended...

Also, I will admit I'm not that familiar with his work, but if his work always ends with an awkward and out of place scene, then he is a bad director. (Though I'm very sure that's not what you actually meant.)
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Jan 10, 2020 11:19 AM

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>Takahata
>bad director

You spring chicken, you. Watch Takahata’s films. Yes, some of them do have conclusions of strong tonal dissonance, but always for purposeful and thematically appropriate reasons. I will end by saying that bad directors don’t inspire an entire generation of artists.
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I like OP's description and I agree, it's so charming.

I just wish the TV series would be available with eng subs.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Aug 13, 2022 3:50 AM

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Pretty funny and really well animated for it's time, didn't enjoy the final cat fighting subplot at the end though, movie dragged a little, could have ended it 20 minutes before. 6/10.
Mar 19, 2023 6:52 PM
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Tetsu's the real brat.
Really enjoyed his while waiting for the TV series to be subbed.
Apr 20, 2024 8:38 AM
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Really don't get why people like this so much and try so hard to defend Takahata. It seem that when they hear the name of a particular director, they just force themselves to like a movie and refuse to dislike it, no matter how bad it is.

Even if I wasn't as critical towards gihibli/Takahata as I am, the movie still feels like it's 4 hours long. The last 20 minutes at very least are completely unnecessary and anti-climatic which is even admitted by the usual fanboys. The characters are ugly (I know it's intentional) and superficial and I couldn't relate with anyone because they all feel like parodies. Besides, the movies doesn't seem to have much of a point and the constant, never-ending ball jokes are pure cringe material and make the movie unpleasant for kids and too childish for adults.
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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