Honestly, older anime and manga weren't made for overseas audiences. If you really want to see them, translating them yourself is common sense. Fan translations of foreign works are copyright infringement and illegal, so we don't even call ourselves “fans” here. You'd just be seen as a thief or an immoral criminal, foolishly bragging about it like a pathetic fool.
That said, even here, if a work isn't translated into Japanese or you dislike an existing translation, some people will focus on translating just the particularly difficult parts or post translation hints online. No one is stupid enough to translate and post the entire thing. So, from our perspective, the stance is that if you want to read or watch it, you translate it yourself, so it's not unfair.
As I've said many times, few anime or manga creators genuinely don't care about their work being translated and uploaded without permission. They just don't say it out loud, but I think they naturally feel annoyed. Manga artists and anime creators are kinder than you think; that's why nobody speaks up. The fact that the government even compiles statistics on the financial damage from pirated copies proves that piracy isn't a good thing. In fact, recently, a famous shoujo manga concluded, and the author criticized unauthorized translations and uploads in a comment.
People who make anime and manga don't live on air alone. They use water and electricity, and they eat meals. Creating work also requires physical and mental energy. Spending money to support their work is, in my view, perfectly reasonable—even if it means being mocked by self-proclaimed anime fans overseas. As creators and artists, holding copyright is only natural. To treat that lightly is barbaric and shows a lack of respect for creators.
Moreover, translating works for free without the original author's permission shows a lack of respect for both the creator and the work itself. Can't they at least check? Especially if they're capable of translating from Japanese to English.
Whether it's manga or anime, pirated versions are rampant like shit. If people genuinely want official translations, they should petition publishers and animation studios themselves. There are already examples where such petitions led to the release of an anime film. Some blame Japan for not providing translations, but unless overseas self-proclaimed anime fans improve their low moral standards—where watching pirated content is seen as normal—it's best to assume translating older, lesser-known anime and manga will remain difficult.
Well, the fact that it hasn't been translated into English might mean there are no pirated versions, so I guess that has its good points too.
Since the original is a manga, if you're interested, you'll probably find it easier to look for that version.
The original author is Tsutomu.
It has a low rating on MAL, but I'm enjoying it reasonably well. The ending theme song also resembles a song I like, and I actually grew to really like it.
Thanks for the celebration message!For now,
At least I had my cake and ate it.
I didn't really celebrate, I just watched Gundam 00 anime and read manga about con artists and such. I went to a voice-over reading event the day after my birthday, which was fun, even though I fell asleep during some of the scenes.
Is the influence on anime significant? Death Note or Blade of Oni? I tried to write on the topic of “Death Note” but it was already locked, so I will comment on your profile page.
I think Demon Slayer was more influential.
However, the coronavirus epidemic and the fact that Euphoria Table was the animation production company were the main reasons why it became popular. If the coronavirus epidemic and the animation production company were different companies, it would not have been so popular, or the influence of the anime would not have been so strong. I think so.
Incidentally, the manga series Death Note had a high reputation even before the anime was made, but Demon Slayer's reputation finally rose after the anime was broadcast and the coronavirus epidemic began.
You said: Even though I have a lot of love for kpop there's also a lot about it I don't love.
Yeah same here. I can the say the same for anime/manga too.
Also, I got something you can add to your MAL stat, did you ever had or played a Sega Master System? If you did, did you ever played Zillion and it's sequel. Did you ever played Cyborg Hunter? Because if you played any of the 3 games I mentioned, then you might or might not have known those games were originally anime tie-in video game!!! Yep, the 2 Zillion games on Sega Master System were tie-in and based on the anime TV series. Cyborg Hunter was based on the anime TV series, Sonic Soldier Borgman.
I have 2 video documentaries courtesy of GTV Japan that talked about Zillion and Borgman respectively (also turn on CC for closed captioning/SDH subtitles):
If you want to watched Borgman (with English subtitles), it's on Youtube (I'll add the link to the playlist):
Just a little word of warning: The first 23 episodes are subtitled correctly and done like a professional. But episode 24 and after are done by another fansubbers, and their subtitling are utter crap (as in misspelling, renaming characters in the subtitles, and all that weird shit). So I recommend just watching the first 23 episodes because of the subtitling done correctly and like a professional.
You said: I just turned 46 (born in 78) so technically I'm not a boomer I'm Gen X.
Then you might want to correct that statement on the forum because that would be misleading to most people if they think you were born in the mid 60's when you were born in 1978. Also here's the definition of Gen X according to Wikipedia:
Wikipedia said: Researchers and popular media often use the mid-1960s as its starting birth years and the late 1970s as its ending birth years, with the generation being generally defined as people born from 1965 to 1980.
So we got everything straight out.
Never been to an actual concert but came close to going to Odd Eye Circle and IVE when they were in Texas fairly recently but chickened out.
I wanted to go to a K-pop concert ever since moving to Texas, but the ticket are too damn expensive for me. Blackpink was in Houston I think a year (or 2 years ago), but tickets were too expensive for me. It's been a big issue for me and other K-pop fans.
That's bad ass that you've actually been to Korea and to M Countdown and even saw a pre worldwide famous BTS and those other groups. That had to be an amazing experience.
Oh yeah, but seeing SNSD-TTS was a big experience for me because both Tiffany and Seohyun touched my hand at the end of the show!!! Not making this up. To show you I'm not making this up, here's a video performance of WINNER at M! Countdown:
You see the guy in the white hat and smiling like he's having a great time? Yep, that's me in the video!!! Can't believe that video is still there.
you said: My all time favorite is f(x). I also like Kara, Wonder Girls, T-ara, AOA, Crayon Pop, Odd Eye Circle, IVE. Mostly 2nd gen girl groups.
You have good taste!!! Did you ever listened to 1st gen group like Seo Taiji & The Boys, H.O.T, Shinhwa, S.E.S, etc.... The reason I asked is because you wrote this:
Iron_Leopard said: Yes I'm a boomer who's frustrated with how you kids are keeping the industry alive
So that means you were born between 1946-1964, so I assume you had some sort of exposure to the earlier K-pop assuming you got chance to listen to them when you became a K-pop fan. I mean I assume that an older K-pop fan like you would probably be curious about the 1st gen K-pop group (early 90's-early 2000's).
Have you ever been to a K-pop concert? Because I've been to 2 of them (I saw B.A.P, and KARD). Also, I took a trip to South Korea in 2014, and I went to a M! Countdown and saw BTS (before they became household name in the US and worldwide), WINNER, SPICA, Teen Top, and SNSD-TTS on stage!!!
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That said, even here, if a work isn't translated into Japanese or you dislike an existing translation, some people will focus on translating just the particularly difficult parts or post translation hints online. No one is stupid enough to translate and post the entire thing. So, from our perspective, the stance is that if you want to read or watch it, you translate it yourself, so it's not unfair.
As I've said many times, few anime or manga creators genuinely don't care about their work being translated and uploaded without permission. They just don't say it out loud, but I think they naturally feel annoyed. Manga artists and anime creators are kinder than you think; that's why nobody speaks up. The fact that the government even compiles statistics on the financial damage from pirated copies proves that piracy isn't a good thing. In fact, recently, a famous shoujo manga concluded, and the author criticized unauthorized translations and uploads in a comment.
People who make anime and manga don't live on air alone. They use water and electricity, and they eat meals. Creating work also requires physical and mental energy. Spending money to support their work is, in my view, perfectly reasonable—even if it means being mocked by self-proclaimed anime fans overseas. As creators and artists, holding copyright is only natural. To treat that lightly is barbaric and shows a lack of respect for creators.
Moreover, translating works for free without the original author's permission shows a lack of respect for both the creator and the work itself. Can't they at least check? Especially if they're capable of translating from Japanese to English.
Whether it's manga or anime, pirated versions are rampant like shit. If people genuinely want official translations, they should petition publishers and animation studios themselves. There are already examples where such petitions led to the release of an anime film. Some blame Japan for not providing translations, but unless overseas self-proclaimed anime fans improve their low moral standards—where watching pirated content is seen as normal—it's best to assume translating older, lesser-known anime and manga will remain difficult.
Since the original is a manga, if you're interested, you'll probably find it easier to look for that version.
The original author is Tsutomu.
It has a low rating on MAL, but I'm enjoying it reasonably well. The ending theme song also resembles a song I like, and I actually grew to really like it.
I rewatched second times this year
At least I had my cake and ate it.
I didn't really celebrate, I just watched Gundam 00 anime and read manga about con artists and such. I went to a voice-over reading event the day after my birthday, which was fun, even though I fell asleep during some of the scenes.
Maybe not as much as you but the vast majority.
I see you like old sci-fi stuff as well.
Is the influence on anime significant? Death Note or Blade of Oni? I tried to write on the topic of “Death Note” but it was already locked, so I will comment on your profile page.
I think Demon Slayer was more influential.
However, the coronavirus epidemic and the fact that Euphoria Table was the animation production company were the main reasons why it became popular. If the coronavirus epidemic and the animation production company were different companies, it would not have been so popular, or the influence of the anime would not have been so strong. I think so.
Incidentally, the manga series Death Note had a high reputation even before the anime was made, but Demon Slayer's reputation finally rose after the anime was broadcast and the coronavirus epidemic began.
Even though I have a lot of love for kpop there's also a lot about it I don't love.
Yeah same here. I can the say the same for anime/manga too.
Also, I got something you can add to your MAL stat, did you ever had or played a Sega Master System? If you did, did you ever played Zillion and it's sequel. Did you ever played Cyborg Hunter? Because if you played any of the 3 games I mentioned, then you might or might not have known those games were originally anime tie-in video game!!! Yep, the 2 Zillion games on Sega Master System were tie-in and based on the anime TV series. Cyborg Hunter was based on the anime TV series, Sonic Soldier Borgman.
I have 2 video documentaries courtesy of GTV Japan that talked about Zillion and Borgman respectively (also turn on CC for closed captioning/SDH subtitles):
If you want to watched Borgman (with English subtitles), it's on Youtube (I'll add the link to the playlist):
Just a little word of warning: The first 23 episodes are subtitled correctly and done like a professional. But episode 24 and after are done by another fansubbers, and their subtitling are utter crap (as in misspelling, renaming characters in the subtitles, and all that weird shit). So I recommend just watching the first 23 episodes because of the subtitling done correctly and like a professional.
I hope these help!!!
I just turned 46 (born in 78) so technically I'm not a boomer I'm Gen X.
Then you might want to correct that statement on the forum because that would be misleading to most people if they think you were born in the mid 60's when you were born in 1978. Also here's the definition of Gen X according to Wikipedia:
Researchers and popular media often use the mid-1960s as its starting birth years and the late 1970s as its ending birth years, with the generation being generally defined as people born from 1965 to 1980.
So we got everything straight out.
I wanted to go to a K-pop concert ever since moving to Texas, but the ticket are too damn expensive for me. Blackpink was in Houston I think a year (or 2 years ago), but tickets were too expensive for me. It's been a big issue for me and other K-pop fans.
Oh yeah, but seeing SNSD-TTS was a big experience for me because both Tiffany and Seohyun touched my hand at the end of the show!!! Not making this up. To show you I'm not making this up, here's a video performance of WINNER at M! Countdown:
You see the guy in the white hat and smiling like he's having a great time? Yep, that's me in the video!!! Can't believe that video is still there.
My all time favorite is f(x). I also like Kara, Wonder Girls, T-ara, AOA, Crayon Pop, Odd Eye Circle, IVE. Mostly 2nd gen girl groups.
You have good taste!!! Did you ever listened to 1st gen group like Seo Taiji & The Boys, H.O.T, Shinhwa, S.E.S, etc.... The reason I asked is because you wrote this:
Yes I'm a boomer who's frustrated with how you kids are keeping the industry alive
So that means you were born between 1946-1964, so I assume you had some sort of exposure to the earlier K-pop assuming you got chance to listen to them when you became a K-pop fan. I mean I assume that an older K-pop fan like you would probably be curious about the 1st gen K-pop group (early 90's-early 2000's).
Have you ever been to a K-pop concert? Because I've been to 2 of them (I saw B.A.P, and KARD). Also, I took a trip to South Korea in 2014, and I went to a M! Countdown and saw BTS (before they became household name in the US and worldwide), WINNER, SPICA, Teen Top, and SNSD-TTS on stage!!!
Check your notification, you should received a friend request by now.
Also, may I recommend adding these to your list:
Orguss (1984, 35 episodes. it's on blu-ray, only the first 17 episodes have dubbed in English, best to watch this anime subtitled)
Arion (1986, full length movie. This one is also available on blu-ray too):
I want you to include these on your list. By having these 2, that would increase your reputation and status as a 80's anime fan.