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Aug 21, 2014 7:24 AM
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That got kinda interesting. We see the Argevollen in action again. The battle felt kinda static but I noticed this episode picked up the pacing.

I kinda like the choice of OST they used in this episode though. They battle ended well with a prisoner taken.
Aug 21, 2014 9:17 AM
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Much better than the previous episode. Yay for no fanservice. The action was decent too. Only if they didn't use crappy CG mechs.

The first part was taking it slow, but the pace picked up in the second half. The battle had some tactics and good teamwork. Tokimune showed some signs of improvement, coupled with Jamie's tuning, he worked up a good fight. He got Richthofen on his knees. I liked the way Tokimune dodged him and struck his Trail Krieger's wrist joint with the combat knife.

The next episode PV also looks promising.
Aug 21, 2014 10:04 AM
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Good episode, shame we didn't get an explanation about what happened to Tokimune's sister but that was asking for a lot. This just pretty much confirmed what everyone thought, that his sister and the Liuetenent were close and now there is specific mention of a tradgedy in the area, which his sister was more than likely lost in. It was good to finally see some significant improvement from Tokimune as Argevollen's pilot rather than it always being about the mecha simply getting updated.
Aug 21, 2014 10:34 AM
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It seems that the new update is working as expected. Linkage depth 17. Tokimune dodged that attack. It's like he entered the zone.

Battlefield next field. More action please. If only they can avoid CG animation.
Aug 21, 2014 10:58 AM
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Good ep. Finally some confirmation on the Captain and Tokimine's sister. Though I wish it was more then just a flashback. Here I was hoping the Captain and them would talk while there but I guess its not time yet. It seems the update also help out seeing he seems to be more in sync with the machine. The enemy escape so I guess they will meet again. Hopefully Tokimune's skills will be better the next time they meet.

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Aug 21, 2014 11:11 AM
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I'm assuming Tokimune's sister and Samonji were good friends? Samonji might know how she died.

That megane informant proved to be quite useful; gave some vital info on the Ingelmian Cargo.

Battles commence. Silfy and Lorenz's teamwork was great. Saved each other's back pretty good there.
Tokimune slightly improved in his defense but still got a long way to go. Linkage depth 17{/100}(?) isn't very impressive.

Good episode. So, Tokimune finally decides to concentrate on the battles for the time being, putting his sister's matter aside. Not bad and I hope to see him develop more soon.

Aug 21, 2014 11:16 AM
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Pretty decent ep. We get confirmation that Samonji might indeed have been a marshal (at his age seems a bit far fetched but lets see when we get some more backgroun on him). Tokimune grows up a bit and improves as a fighter at the same time.
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Aug 21, 2014 12:18 PM
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So in the end we still don't know the exact relationship between the sister of the main and the commender.
From the looks of it tho it seems like she had feelings for him tho the question is where they lovers are where they not.
Would be interesting to find that out at some point.

Seems like the main finally starts getting used to his unit the question is will he have learned in his ways.
Will he have learned from his actions he did in the beginning of this anime.
Aug 21, 2014 12:50 PM
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Shit, Tokomune has an advantage over those Ingelmian mech and yet he still almost got beaten by a veteran.
Aug 21, 2014 12:53 PM

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Loved the action and love this series in general.
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Aug 21, 2014 2:09 PM

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Better then the last episode, but still pretty slow. But i do like how they are still slowly feeding us the pieces to the puzzle.
Next episode look like we get to see more of the other side, and a bit of action too.
The fight scenes are kinda meh, but they aren't bad. Kind of what I imagine an actual mech battle to look like. Slow, lumbering and lots of wasted ammo.
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Aug 21, 2014 2:15 PM

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A decent episode and it was nice seeing Tokimune get better at fighting.
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Aug 21, 2014 2:33 PM

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See? You CAN be good Argevollen. Good fleshing out on Samonji. Build up to the conflict, advancing the plot. A few QUALITY moments here and there, but it's all right.

And the actual fight wasn't that bad either, but you need to decide if we're going to slow bulky mech route or the fast dashing robots. Well at least the Argevollen one is becoming more reactive visually as well.

4/5 Well done. A bit too straight, but did not drop the ball.
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Aug 21, 2014 3:10 PM

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Other than a couple moments where characters looked...just wrong...like when Jamie was looking at Tokimune before he went into battle and looked like a different person...pretty decent episode.

Feels like the Ingelmians need some sort of advanced mech as well though. Currently Tokimune is still developing into a decent pilot...but if this was him when he was at a pretty low linkage depth seems like he'll become pretty steamrolly before long.

RIP sunflowers T_T
Aug 21, 2014 4:50 PM

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I think with more budget and tighter rein on the consistency in the animation, this would probably be a much better looking package. The big question is who was responsible for Tokimune's sister's death, and what will be the response of Tokimune and Samonji when the truth is out
I like the supporting characters and I hope we can keep the independent unit alive throughout the show--since Tokimune's sister is already dead we don't need another sacrifice to show how evil the villains are, or to provide grief based power-ups to the main characters.
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Aug 21, 2014 5:56 PM
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Tokimune decide to concentrate more on battle, he has improve on controlling Argevollen easily more than before.
Aug 21, 2014 6:07 PM

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the new update is cool
Aug 21, 2014 6:27 PM

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Love the symbolism with Tokimune placing all of his focus on doing the best he can for his unit, even if it means momentarily trampling on his driving force-the revenge closure on his sister's death, and his eagerness to attain the consequent feeling of resolution and peace over her memory.

Though I'm pretty sure Samonji is pissed about those sunflowers, Tokimune will surely receive punishment this time.
Aug 21, 2014 7:15 PM

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fucking love this op
sick fight!!!
I wonder was is going to happen since they fought on netural ground
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Aug 21, 2014 8:16 PM

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This series is really improving over time. The choreography of that fight was amazing compared to the others.

I just cant understand how the hell this has a lower rating than Captain Earth.
Aug 21, 2014 8:38 PM

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Why do I keep thinking "Tokimune, your sister is actually inside the machine." XD

Nice to see this show getting better. Felt bad for the sunflower field though.
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Aug 21, 2014 9:40 PM

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TaisakuSentou said:
This series is really improving over time. The choreography of that fight was amazing compared to the others.

I just cant understand how the hell this has a lower rating than Captain Earth.
It got ran over by the hype machine...not enough people gave it a chance just because A. there's Aldnoah.Zero which is the very definition of "hype" B. it started out feeling very cliched ((I was worried myself just because it felt like a retread but stuck with it because of how they were handling things)) and C. it's not easy on the eyes.
Aug 21, 2014 9:44 PM

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I was sure that Lieutenant Samonji had something to do with the death of the sister of Tokimune, I predict the two become enemies in the future
good fights in this episode, finally Tokimune is improving, will he turn a good protagonist until the end of the anime?
Aug 22, 2014 5:09 AM

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TaisakuSentou said:
I just cant understand how the hell this has a lower rating than Captain Earth.
Hey at least Captain Earth has decent production values and one can enjoy it if it's treated as a slice of life show with a mecha twist. What I can't get is M3 having a higher score than this -.-

I thought Samonji was always silent and having that boring/depressing look on his face because he was the cause of Tokimune's sister's death. But the flashback made it clear that he is more or less the same whether she is alive or not. Now I want to know his backstory even more.

He's pretty perceptive though and thanks to that they discovered the enemy's surprise attack, with his team's excellent teamwork the counter attack was a huge success. The enemies were actually good fighters since they gave Silfy and Lorenz some serious trouble, which hasn't happened before.

Tokimune got his rematch with Richthofen, the fight looked pretty good and was very exciting. It was worrying that the reason Tokimune was fighting better was apparently the new update to Agrevollen though. However, he finally got his shit together and fought properly, which was nice.

I don't want to get redundant by mentioning this every week but the OST is really good ^^
Overall a great episode and I don't have many complaints, so 5/5
Aug 23, 2014 3:52 AM
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TaisakuSentou said:
This series is really improving over time. The choreography of that fight was amazing compared to the others.

I just cant understand how the hell this has a lower rating than Captain Earth.


what worse? this anime has lower rating than rail wars!

this meccha battle reminds me to front mission a lot, we got melee and variety of gun, the old meccha is slow but the newer one have thruster for dash, etc
Aug 23, 2014 4:25 AM

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;_; More frames, please? The quality of animation is appalling. The writing is still more or less ok, but it is not a radio drama... Well, I'll try to tank through the episode for the third time.
Aug 23, 2014 6:34 AM
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A pretty solid episode.
Aug 23, 2014 7:44 AM

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The battle was okay i guess, still pretty slow and static i think but it wasn't terrible.

The series has been okay so far, but it hasn't really been good enough to just hook me.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:18 PM

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There is something about this show that makes me want to continue watching, but I don't know what is it. Still after the last two or three episode I can say this is a decent show, or better than other ones that I started watching this season
Aug 23, 2014 10:20 PM

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I'm glad this series has managed to avoid shooting itself in the foot like it has in the past with alot of its potential, not a particularly great or even good episode but its a noticeable improvement of the string of mishaps its taken recently. Sadly i have lost almost all hope that this series will become anything more than it has, hopefully im wrong and this becomes a truly memorable war story but iv stopped holding my breath

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TaisakuSentou said:
This series is really improving over time. The choreography of that fight was amazing compared to the others.

I just cant understand how the hell this has a lower rating than Captain Earth.
It got ran over by the hype machine...not enough people gave it a chance just because A. there's Aldnoah.Zero which is the very definition of "hype" B. it started out feeling very cliched ((I was worried myself just because it felt like a retread but stuck with it because of how they were handling things)) and C. it's not easy on the eyes.

you forgot D: the pacing is absolutely atrocious and E: the series continuously gives way to the predictable and shoots itself in the foot through contradictory tones and imagry with its sporadic jumps between serious realistic war drama and goofy over the top super robot physics like episode 3 or its painful fanservice scenes.

The series has legitiment problems and its completly understandable why it hasnt found an audience, its not even sure what the hell it wants to be, it had potential but most of it has been squandered, while there is still some hope especially since we are yet to cross the halfway point the fact that the pacing has been so painfully uneventful it feels more like its wasting time than setting up a pay off, its chances of improving are getting slimmer and slimmer as it goes on from its sheer lack of direction and confidence. it wants to be a war drama yet its so hesitant to actually showcase actual war and its destruction and pain it causes.
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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Aug 23, 2014 10:26 PM

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Eleoric said:
TaisakuSentou said:
This series is really improving over time. The choreography of that fight was amazing compared to the others.

I just cant understand how the hell this has a lower rating than Captain Earth.
It got ran over by the hype machine...not enough people gave it a chance just because A. there's Aldnoah.Zero which is the very definition of "hype" B. it started out feeling very cliched ((I was worried myself just because it felt like a retread but stuck with it because of how they were handling things)) and C. it's not easy on the eyes.

you forgot D: the pacing is absolutely atrocious and E: the series continuously gives way to the predictable and shoots itself in the foot through contradictory tones and imagry with its sporadic jumps between serious realistic war drama and goofy over the top super robot physics like episode 3 or its painful fanservice scenes.

The series has legitiment problems and its completly understandable why it hasnt found an audience, its not even sure what the hell it wants to be, it had potential but most of it has been squandered, while there is still some hope especially since we are yet to cross the halfway point the fact that the pacing has been so painfully uneventful it feels more like its wasting time than setting up a pay off, its chances of improving are getting slimmer and slimmer as it goes on from its sheer lack of direction and confidence. it wants to be a war drama yet its so hesistant to actually showcase actual war and its destruction and pain it causes.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Aug 24, 2014 12:12 AM
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I agree with the generally quite positive feeling on this board about the episode in question. The deceptions and battle in the episode had me paying more attention to Argevollen than I usually do. I'm still not sure exactly what the enemy was doing in Bellhals (whether they were attacking Bellhalls itself, or Arandas by a different route), but maybe I just missed something obvious. I also appreciated that a little more light was being shed on what happened to Tokimune's sister.

Overall, the deception and reveals in this episode make it my favorite in the series so far.
Aug 24, 2014 6:05 AM

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And the mystery deepens. So apparently Quasimodo was in the army at the same time as Samonji and Tokimune's sister. We've pretty much gathered that there was a tragedy at Arrow Point, or something like that, which caused Tokimune's sister's death, and led to the retirement of Quasi and the demotion of Samonji. Guess only the rest of the show will tell exactly what it is that happened. Somehow I get the feeling the rocks Samonji was looking at on the Sunflower cape at the end of the episode could possibly be where Tokimune's sister was buried.

That blond dude got the better of Tokimune again, even if his piloting did improve a bit. I was hoping for a serious beat-down, but in the end the plot armor was still thick enough to prevent it. Next time they meet though, I'm still betting on the Blondie. Don't see Tokimune getting exponentially better unless some tragedy befalls him.

Overall a decent episode. Seen better though.
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Aug 24, 2014 9:16 PM

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Not the flower field NOOO

Once Tokmune reaches 100 Linkage Depth than he can beat him.
Aug 25, 2014 2:56 PM

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The writing in this show as of this week continues to be so much better than Aldnoah.Zero it's almost becoming a sad joke. I almost can't even really compare the two anymore the way they're heading in opposite directions from where they started of.
Aug 25, 2014 4:36 PM

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Solid episode, also it seems from the preview that the next week there will be a few of new brand characters. Jamie's getting less annoying which is a big plus since she was hindering my enjoyment for the show. I've indeed seen better but this is not bad at all.
Oct 5, 2014 5:08 AM

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4/5

Nothing to complain about this time either, the slow part is not bored, and lasting well little, you feel even; something quite different is the second part looks good and engaging, but takes place at night comabttimento.
Also good OST, always well tuned with the events shown during the narration.
Characters even if only slightly, presenting a further maturation of character, getting better this anime series.
The only flaw the designs of the characters still too raw.
The animation and CG, are good and fluid.

TaisakuSentou said:

I just cant understand how the hell this has a lower rating than Captain Earth.


Simply said, most people do not understand a damn thing! XD
Jan 24, 2015 5:04 PM

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I usually have a thing for dark, brooding, male characters, but this Lieutenant is just too dark and brooding.

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Apr 11, 2016 11:34 AM

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That was a good fight, a pity it had to be at that place.
Tokimune and Jamie is slowly becoming the reason I'm watching this anime.
So mr. captain-san was this gloomy way back then huh,. I don't really like him either way.
Tokimune's onee-chan is so cheerful and cute. Makes me wonder what dark past could be behind this.
By the way, I'm starting to feel those girls are just extra luggage to the show since the spa LOL.
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The Commander and Tokimune's sister were apparently more than just superior and subordinate or friends.

She probably died during some secret weapon test. Maybe a predecessor to Argevollen. Maybe part of her is left in the program, which could explain Tokimune's suitability to Argevollen.

One rat helped the Ingelmians to smuggle mechs in the country.

Douchy McDoucheface and his two buffoons really fucked up this time. Who's a bad soldier now? They shouldn't have picked him for the job.

That Tokimune destroyed the sunflower field in combat, was a bit sad.
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