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Oct 23, 2014 7:24 AM
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More or less of a slower episode. Tokimune is trying to earn some approval and there's no doubt that he is trying. Still, it could take some time...

Jamie and her relationship with him got heated also somewhat. BAKA. BAKA. BAKA.
Oct 23, 2014 8:02 AM
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I take it there is nothing important happened this ep, no?
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Oct 23, 2014 9:16 AM
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tiya_n said:
I take it there is nothing important happened this ep, no?

Didn't you watch the episode, why do you then post here, when you're supposed to discuss about things that happened in this episode?



Oct 23, 2014 9:36 AM
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Another ep without Kotoko singing the OP? They breaking my heart.

Well pretty much a confirmation ep. They revealed pretty much what we were speculating the whole time. Interesting to note was Jamie's boss said it has a safety feature so the user mind won't get destroyed. Which is believable to believe since Tokimune's been using the machine far longer and the other user mind seems far gone already. Though I guess the safety feature becomes inactive when the depth gauge cranks up to 100. Well odds are he will be using the machine again so I guess its a matter of time of will it happen to him or is he just special?

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Oct 23, 2014 10:25 AM
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Shock_Yin said:
tiya_n said:
I take it there is nothing important happened this ep, no?

Didn't you watch the episode, why do you then post here, when you're supposed to discuss about things that happened in this episode?

Well I haven't watched it when I posted it 2 hours ago :p

"Normally, he would have become an invalid long ago, or died." Uh-huh. So evil.

Another build-up episode, I guess we're into action again next week. That's said, the animation and character design looks notably off this ep...I wonder if they saved too much budget for action animation.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:33 AM
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Good to see thatthey keep it up with both sides being played by some of their superiors as well as that conglomerate. Wonder how much the army contact does know about the conglomerate plan, and why he goes along with it.
Oct 23, 2014 12:43 PM
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Lorenz isn't very picky, is he, eh.

I'm sure that Suguro dude is bullshitting about the pilot safety in Arge (after his phrase, "he would have become an invalid long ago, or died" and a comment some eps ago about how they need to start mass producing before general public finds out about NR syndrome), it's just that Tokimune seems to be unexpectedly and unusually tough mentally (it probably runs in the family, since his sister also was much tougher mentally than normal people). Compared to Tokimune, Richthofen's been piloting much less but is alredy more affected than Tokimune (Tokimune went crazy only in battle, while Richthofen snapped in a normal, everyday situation outside the cockpit, plus, there was no indication that Richthofen's link depth ever went into the red zone)
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Oct 23, 2014 1:39 PM
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So it seems Richthoven is also already showing signs of NR Syndrome and it seems to be becoming a real problem.
The reason why Richthoven is effected much faster the Tokimune is probably due that he has an high aptitude like his sister, but this only a theory right now.
It seems that Tokimune isn't at the stage where he attacks people yet which Rchthoven seems to be doing then again even under normal circumstances Righthoven would be more likely to attack people then Tokimune is.

The captain seems to be aware of what's happening tho, and it doesn't seem like he will Suguro the chance to test his unit further.
Oct 23, 2014 1:45 PM
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Not much happened this episode. Just a confirmation of what was speculated about NR syndrome being a neuro-degenerative condition. Suguro is obviously lying through his teeth to maintain the credibility of his top product. Righthoven seemed to have lost his mind already. Next episode will probably force the issue of Tokimune using Argevollen again because of the attack.

Oct 23, 2014 2:41 PM

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baka baka baka baka baka baka baka baka. That sweet moment;)
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Oct 23, 2014 4:10 PM

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Episode calmer than previous ones, only clarified what was already expected about Argevollen and Tokimune, feel like he only has been made ​​a fool of in the anime

Syndrome NR = Syndrome Nanjou Reika, that was pretty obvious

Next episode already back to war, I think the Argevollen will soon return to battle ..
Oct 23, 2014 4:23 PM

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Wow, I really think they ruined Richthofen's character..

They had him go from an interesting antagonist to a generic bad guy character.

I guess it's their attempt to get us to side with the 'good guys' as a big battle is clearly incoming but Richthofen along with the other Ingelmia commanders were the only characters I actually found to be interesting in this show.

Oh well..
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Oct 23, 2014 5:20 PM
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Ah, I didn't like how Richthofen acted in this episode. He's more than a worthy rival to Tokimune and is indeed a badass, but from the way he got agitated real quick, he could possibly become more of a pathetic loser than Tokimune himself.
That NR Syndrome is probably affecting him to a higher degree..

Shiono and Rikuru's blushing at LorenzXTokimune BL vibe was pretty funny! I think Rikuru wouldn't have minded joining them in the bed. :p

That "BAKA" scene was hilarious! Are they trying to sail an OTP here?

Suguro-san is acting suspicious. I bet he has multiple connections with both military sides and is only interested in making money out of this warfare.

Decent episode. It won't be long before Tokimune operates Argevollen again. Until then, hoping Lorenz and Silfy would get some good spotlights.

Oct 23, 2014 5:26 PM
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It was good to see Tokimune learned about he is going berserk when he operates Argevollen. I think he will operates Argevollen again.
Oct 23, 2014 6:59 PM

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Really good build up episode, especially in the case of our two mains. Considering how much of a mindfuck that was for Tokimune, along with the revelation that his superiors knew what he was getting himself into the whole time, he handled himself in the situation admirably. He remained calm, accepted the situation, and sought out something he could do to remain a role player in his unit. This is a different Tokimune, the guy has truly become a soldier.

As evidence, look at how quickly Richthofen's NR Syndrome is surfacing. Tokimune has like ten times the experience he does in the new models, and it took an intense battle and a linkage depth over 100 to send him close to 'abnormal'. I don't think that's anything to do with Arge's support system, but rather the mental fortitude Tokimune's gained through the nerve racking battles he's been through, and the resolve he's built up through the series.

Jamie's development, while not as good, was still nice to see. Her job in monitoring Argevollen has been her number one priority and motivation, but now we see just how much her head has shifted. She's begun to care about Tokimune enough that his well being is now more important than her role in the conglomerate, and I think we'll see her act on that soon.

Everyone got a little love this episode, from Samonji and Suzushiro's sin to everyone supporting Tokimune. I especially liked the moments with Silfy, that's the best we've seen from her characterization wise. I liked the way it was emphasized that she didn't care about him shooting her in the slightest, and was instead more concerned with helping him recuperate.

Next episode can't be good with that title, I wonder if we'll have our first casualty.
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Wow, I really think they ruined Richthofen's character..

They had him go from an interesting antagonist to a generic bad guy character.


This is all part of his development I imagine. There's a reason his NR Syndrome is escalating so rapidly compared to Tokimune, aside from Tokimune having built a strong mind through his experiences. Likely something to do with his thoughts of revenge. Either way I don't see how it makes him a generic character unless you don't understand NR Syndrome and the role it's playing in the story, how it's mirroring him and Tokimune's goals and the different paths they've taken in forming their resolve, etc.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:10 PM
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while richthofen personality is rekt by NRS, i don't think his story part will be destroyed completely, maybe we will get some drama between he and that girl
Oct 23, 2014 11:41 PM

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Well! Thats an ominous title for the next episode...
Another plot episode. These are nice everynow and then to get the plot rolling and explain things to us, and saves the action for an entire episode.
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Oct 24, 2014 1:56 AM
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Both sides are getting played by their superiors and the company behind Argevollen. It's a shame that Richthofen has to change. He was a good antagonist in the Char mould, but it looks that now he'll just be a standard psycho type.
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Oct 24, 2014 3:24 AM

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I feel Richthoven showing signs of NR syndrome would have more impact if his character had more depth.
Oct 24, 2014 1:25 PM

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snap he's not allowed to pilot Argevollen anymore
Oct 24, 2014 5:09 PM

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nice build up episode, the confirmation of the argevellon being the same that killed his sister has made me very curious as to where this ill be going, and richthoven turning into a complete sociopath by nr syndrom is interesting, nothing big happened but it was all set up and next episode looks great, its called defeat eh? You know a delayed 2nd opening in addition to that bleak title makes me think something pretty major may go down, potnetial death of a major character perhaps so they cant show the new opening without spoiling it?

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Oct 24, 2014 5:26 PM
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That NR Syndrome starting to take effect on Richtofen. But seriously? Hitting someone on a head just because he "disturbed" your time with a machine? He is definitely not changing slowly, but pretty quickly. Too bad he probably won't be saved like Tokimune, who has his captain, Suzushiro, and Jamie to tell him. Jamie's boss is ugh, what a pig. Good thing Jamie won't just eat up orders.
Oct 25, 2014 10:09 PM
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The relationship of Tokimune and Reka had been addressed in the anime many times. Tokimune being less susceptible to Richtofen is most like has to do with being more like his sister. Yeah really could be genetic in that regard.
Oct 27, 2014 8:00 AM

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3/5

Episode of apparent calm, narrative made ​​up of deductions and dialogues, but it seems that something has changed.
The plot is still full of mysteries, who knows?
Drawings are awful though, and the animations are poor, too bad, the anime is worth more! Oh well! ^ _ ^
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That NR Syndrome starting to take effect on Richtofen. But seriously? Hitting someone on a head just because he "disturbed" your time with a machine? He is definitely not changing slowly, but pretty quickly. Too bad he probably won't be saved like Tokimune, who has his captain, Suzushiro, and Jamie to tell him. Jamie's boss is ugh, what a pig. Good thing Jamie won't just eat up orders.


I totally agree with you.
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was an ok episode i suppose hopefully next episode we get some action!!!
maybe some romance ??
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Well that roughly sums up all the things we need to know.
Jamie has to be really dense to still bother talking to bastard like that.
Richthoven went psycho pretty quick. That aside, there's a sudden attack before they can leave huh.
Looks like it'll be hard for Tokimune to not pilot Argevollen after all.

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