Sasaki and Peeps (light novel)
| Checked the internet a bit after watching the episode, and indeed, the outrage crowd is at it. lol. Ngl, Hoshizaki's age reveal was unnecessary, but I cannot take people seriously who are outraged over the hypothetical idea of a 16 yo girl flirting with a 40 yo guy (which is legal in most parts of the world), but being a-ok with the same girl going into deadly fights against psychics using deadly attacks.Western woke society is so dumb. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
| I just find that they didn't have the need to make her underage. But hey if bothing happens I don't care, I was friends with 30 year old people when I was 16 and nobody ever saw a problem. |
| Still, it's a weird decision to make him attract underage girls like a magnet. Why not just normal girls, idk. The show was enjoyable until now but the underage girl thing puts a big stain on the anime. |
| Anime should be gatekeeped hard from the tourists. That chick wears full make-up, has an adult job and acts like an adult and looks like an adult. If they wouldn't tell her age, I'd guess she is in late 20s or early 30s. Anyway, 16 is even past the age of consent in most areas, so tourists are reaching as usual. |
PiromyslJan 12, 2024 1:32 PM
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MyllerPhiem said: Checked the internet a bit after watching the episode, and indeed, the outrage crowd is at it. lol. Ngl, Hoshizaki's age reveal was unnecessary, but I cannot take people seriously who are outraged over the hypothetical idea of a 16 yo girl flirting with a 40 yo guy (which is legal in most parts of the world), but being a-ok with the same girl going into deadly fights against psychics using deadly attacks.Western woke society is so dumb. I think they have a problem in places where it is illegal for this age group, so it is understandable that people around the world have different perspectives on a very sensitive topic. Why they don’t care about the killing factor in the anime as well, that is not understandable. If they complain about one thing that’s illegal, it is logical to complain about the other illegal action of murder. Update: I have now watched the first and second episodes, there was nothing I would call flirting between them, she is more about the job and he didn’t make any pass at her. She only takes him out to thank him for saving her life, which is understandable, and he only asked her age because of her not getting alcohol. The teen neighbor is more interested in the male MC than the coworker, but he did not make a pass at her either. What is the complaint?! |
ejleonJan 12, 2024 2:27 PM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
CorLeonis-_- said: Piromysl said: Anime should be gatekeeped hard from the tourists. That chick wears full make-up, has an adult job and acts like an adult and looks like an adult. If they wouldn't tell her age, I'd guess she is in late 20s or early 30s. Anyway, 16 is even past the age of consent in most areas, so tourists are reaching as usual. I don’t think people from a different cultural perspective having an opinion on something should make them “gatekept hard” from watching anime. People can formulate an opinion about a creative work without people who agree with it being snobby toward them for it. It's not about people "forming an opinion", but deliberately manufacturing an outrage just to convey their disdain and hatred for the media they hate and participate in "cultural appropriation" they tend to find problematic. Like, you seriously need to perform rather convoluted and complex mental gymnastics and try hard to find anything problematic here. You falling for this grift, that they're just "forming an opinion" is rather naive, because if you take a closer look, they are all forming their shitty takes as statements of objective truth, not opinions and are attacking anyone who disagrees. |
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Reply to Eldencheese
Dam born in 1985. Is someone projecting
| @Eldencheese Absolutely. If I fell in love with a girl and she with me and she turns out to be 16, that should be a-ok. It's not illegal, so people need to stop putting a taboo on it. That is what irks me here: The hero of this anime has shown to be a perfectly fine, likeable man. So what if him and Hoshizaki got together, do you think it would be bad for her? In what way? He makes the impression that he'd treat her better than 90% of all men. Either way, it's just so silly when people get outraged over fictional characters. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Reply to MyllerPhiem
@Eldencheese Absolutely. If I fell in love with a girl and she with me and she turns out to be 16, that should be a-ok. It's not illegal, so people need to stop putting a taboo on it. That is what irks me here: The hero of this anime has shown to be a perfectly fine, likeable man. So what if him and Hoshizaki got together, do you think it would be bad for her? In what way? He makes the impression that he'd treat her better than 90% of all men.
Either way, it's just so silly when people get outraged over fictional characters.
Either way, it's just so silly when people get outraged over fictional characters.
| @MyllerPhiem Westerners have a weird moral compass when it comes to Japanese media specifically. |
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Reply to MarlsMarsBars
Piromysl said:
It's not about people "forming an opinion", but deliberately manufacturing an outrage just to convey their disdain and hatred for the media they hate and participate in "cultural appropriation" they tend to find problematic.
Like, you seriously need to perform rather convoluted and complex mental gymnastics and try hard to find anything problematic here.
You falling for this grift, that they're just "forming an opinion" is rather naive, because if you take a closer look, they are all forming their shitty takes as statements of objective truth, not opinions and are attacking anyone who disagrees.
CorLeonis-_- said:
I don’t think people from a different cultural perspective having an opinion on something should make them “gatekept hard” from watching anime. People can formulate an opinion about a creative work without people who agree with it being snobby toward them for it.
I don’t think people from a different cultural perspective having an opinion on something should make them “gatekept hard” from watching anime. People can formulate an opinion about a creative work without people who agree with it being snobby toward them for it.
It's not about people "forming an opinion", but deliberately manufacturing an outrage just to convey their disdain and hatred for the media they hate and participate in "cultural appropriation" they tend to find problematic.
Like, you seriously need to perform rather convoluted and complex mental gymnastics and try hard to find anything problematic here.
You falling for this grift, that they're just "forming an opinion" is rather naive, because if you take a closer look, they are all forming their shitty takes as statements of objective truth, not opinions and are attacking anyone who disagrees.
No one is "falling for any grift". Yes, there are people out there who mindlessly generate outrage just for the sake of it, but that's not who/what @CorLeonis-_- is talking about. If you simply just looked in this exact discussion thread, there are some people, like CoreLeonis, saying that well having a 16 year old being flirtatious to someone in their 40s is a bit taboo and unecessary. It's unnecessary for the girl to be written as a 16 year old. Now the actual story itself doesn't really do much with these two, but depending on where you're from, stuff like this is definitely questionable and even downright illegal depending on the circumstances.
Some people have genuine concerns like "why is the girl written to be a 16 year old instead of an adult?" or "why does the 16 year old have to flirt with a 40 year old?", but you're out here absolving all of that criticism and lumping that in with the "cultural appropriation" crowd.
Also, gatekeeping an entire group of people away from an entertainment medium is definitely extreme imo. There are so many different anime, there will definitely be movies and shows that resonate well for certain people and won't click for others. You could just ignore the controversy if it bothers you that much, which is what I already do since stuff like this is probably going to be irrelevant like a day later.
If we were to go by your logic of gatekeeping, then Japanese people should be gatekept out of anime since they were outraged over the anime adaptation of Chainsaw Man, even to the point of petitioning to have the entire first season redone.
| @MarlsMarsBars But is it questionable? To me it seems like the only ones outraged by this stuff are Americans. And even there, in most states 16 is legal age of consent IF we were to apply real law to FICTIONAL characters, which we shouldn't do. I think the one fair criticism about this episode is that we're all so used to anime featuring young girls that it was refreshing to have Hoshizaki as an older anime girl. And then it turns out that she's just as young as all those generic female characters. That is disappointing. But the rest? Let's be real: The outrage crowd would be just as outraged if she was 18. They'd still shit on the 40 yo guy because of their arbitrary own rules of what is and isn't allowed. It's annoying. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Reply to flyingcassowary
MyllerPhiem said:
@Eldencheese Absolutely. If I fell in love with a girl and she with me and she turns out to be 16, that should be a-ok. It's not illegal, so people need to stop putting a taboo on it. That is what irks me here: The hero of this anime has shown to be a perfectly fine, likeable man. So what if him and Hoshizaki got together, do you think it would be bad for her? In what way? He makes the impression that he'd treat her better than 90% of all men.
Either way, it's just so silly when people get outraged over fictional characters.
@Eldencheese Absolutely. If I fell in love with a girl and she with me and she turns out to be 16, that should be a-ok. It's not illegal, so people need to stop putting a taboo on it. That is what irks me here: The hero of this anime has shown to be a perfectly fine, likeable man. So what if him and Hoshizaki got together, do you think it would be bad for her? In what way? He makes the impression that he'd treat her better than 90% of all men.
Either way, it's just so silly when people get outraged over fictional characters.
Ummmm, how old are you exactly?
| @flyingcassowary What does it matter? |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
| ...why is this such an outrage worthy topic? What is even happening with the world? |
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