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Aug 14, 2017 3:29 AM
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What are your thoughts about the possibility of zokuowarimonogatari because to me the final of owarimonogatari seemed like the end of the monogatari series as an anime
Aug 14, 2017 3:53 AM
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The Off Season has already been confirmed to be in progress, so Zokuowari should be as well.
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Yep Zoku-Owari will be animated too.
Aug 14, 2017 6:17 AM
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The Off Season has already been confirmed to be in progress, so Zokuowari should be as well.


Wait Off Season was confirmed to be animated? Do you have any source on that??
Aug 14, 2017 6:40 AM
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ok ok.... I'm really happy about it... but WHY?!

I don't get it, for years I have been struggling with the fact that most good based on something anime are a way to promote the original material and most of them are going to not be adapted entirely and some others are going to be shitty adapted

Then monogatari shows up and give us.... I cannot even count how many different seasons... and of high quality... why?
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Aredros said:
ok ok.... I'm really happy about it... but WHY?!

I don't get it, for years I have been struggling with the fact that most good based on something anime are a way to promote the original material and most of them are going to not be adapted entirely and some others are going to be shitty adapted

Then monogatari shows up and give us.... I cannot even count how many different seasons... and of high quality... why?


cause shaft and also monogatari is probably one of the highest selling anime in terms of BD in recent years,
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Aug 14, 2017 6:47 AM
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Shhh, don't jinx it
Aug 14, 2017 7:44 AM
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It would be awesome to see if Zokuowarimonogatari, the Off Season and Monster Season would get an adaptation. I can't get enough of the Monogatari franchise
Aug 14, 2017 8:03 AM
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well shaft said they'll make EVERY monogatari series book into anime so i expect not only zuko but also offseason and monster season to be animated at some point. Also as long as monogatari brings profit (and it still brings a lot of money) they have no reason to stop
Aug 14, 2017 5:28 PM
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maxdefolsch said:
The Off Season has already been confirmed to be in progress, so Zokuowari should be as well.


Wait Off Season was confirmed to be animated? Do you have any source on that??


Aniplex's director said so about 7 months ago : https://www.reddit.com/r/araragi/comments/6t4by2/maybe_im_just_out_of_the_loop_but_did_you_guys/
Aug 14, 2017 8:32 PM

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Wait can someone tell me what the ''Off Season" is? Is that similar to what is going on with the new "Monster Season"? Does it have something to do with Zokuowarimonogatari? I'm like decades behind on any knowledge from the LNs SO PLEASE FILL ME IN!!!!!!
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Draconix814 said:
Wait can someone tell me what the ''Off Season" is? Is that similar to what is going on with the new "Monster Season"? Does it have something to do with Zokuowarimonogatari? I'm like decades behind on any knowledge from the LNs SO PLEASE FILL ME IN!!!!!!


Off Season consists of additional stories that occur throughout the series timeline. From my understanding (I could be wrong) they are practically side stories that don't directly affect the plot. I'm not sure though cause I haven't read it.

Though I did hear Musubimonogatari (last part of Off Season) is pretty good, I don't know much about it.

Monster Season is the continuation with new stories and what not. I haven't read that either but Shinobumonogatari (First Part of Monster Season) recently came out last month.

Zokuowarimonogatari is the final part of the Monogatari: Final Season which is after Owarimonogatari
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Monogatari is broken into 5 seasons. First season (bake, kizu, nise, neko black), second season (neko white, kabukimono, hana, otori, oni, koi), final season (tsuki, koyomi, owari, zokuowari), off season (oraka, waza, nade, musubi), monster season (shinobu, yoi, amari, ougi, shino). That's light novel release order and season info. The anime has adapted everything from season 1, 2 and all of final except zokuowari. Off season is next and supposedly oraka is already in the making. The LNs have released up to shinobu. Off season is like a collection of side stories and background stuff including shinobu's origins and hanekawa's trip to look for oshino. The book out of monster season so far takes place around when hana does as far as I'm aware. I don't actually read the novels though, just going based on the wiki.
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TehSnawn said:
Draconix814 said:
Wait can someone tell me what the ''Off Season" is? Is that similar to what is going on with the new "Monster Season"? Does it have something to do with Zokuowarimonogatari? I'm like decades behind on any knowledge from the LNs SO PLEASE FILL ME IN!!!!!!


Off Season consists of additional stories that occur throughout the series timeline. From my understanding (I could be wrong) they are practically side stories that don't directly affect the plot. I'm not sure though cause I haven't read it.

Though I did hear Musubimonogatari (last part of off season) is pretty good.

Monster Season is the continuation with new stories and what not. I haven't read that either but the Shinobumonogatari recently came out last month.

Zokuowarimonogatari is the final part of the Monogatari: Final Season which is after Owarimonogatari

I think I get it, either that or I am more confused, at least to the point that I am genuinely not sure if I am confused or not, but basically the "Off Season" are like a set of novels or just side stories in one novel kinda like Koyomimonogatari? I honestly have no clue how the novels are set up, all I know is that there are a bunch of them and they are divided into seasons. So the "Monster Season" is a continuation of the final season? I wonder how Nisioisin plans on expanding further on Monogatari, when the majority of everything should be resolved by the end of Zokuowarimonogatari, but I don't think I have to worry about anything.
Aug 14, 2017 9:38 PM

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Monogatari is broken into 5 seasons. First season (bake, kizu, nise, neko black), second season (neko white, kabukimono, hana, otori, oni, koi), final season (tsuki, koyomi, owari, zokuowari), off season (oraka, waza, nade, musubi), monster season (shinobu, yoi, amari, ougi, shino). That's light novel release order and season info. The anime has adapted everything from season 1, 2 and all of final except zokuowari. Off season is next and supposedly oraka is already in the making. The LNs have released up to shinobu. Off season is like a collection of side stories and background stuff including shinobu's origins and hanekawa's trip to look for oshino. The book out of monster season so far takes place around when hana does as far as I'm aware. I don't actually read the novels though, just going based on the wiki.

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GodHimselfx100 said:
Monogatari is broken into 5 seasons. First season (bake, kizu, nise, neko black), second season (neko white, kabukimono, hana, otori, oni, koi), final season (tsuki, koyomi, owari, zokuowari), off season (oraka, waza, nade, musubi), monster season (shinobu, yoi, amari, ougi, shino). That's light novel release order and season info. The anime has adapted everything from season 1, 2 and all of final except zokuowari. Off season is next and supposedly oraka is already in the making. The LNs have released up to shinobu. Off season is like a collection of side stories and background stuff including shinobu's origins and hanekawa's trip to look for oshino. The book out of monster season so far takes place around when hana does as far as I'm aware. I don't actually read the novels though, just going based on the wiki.


So, what about off season? Is it still focused on Araragi or it's just another side stories like monster season?
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You can look at the wiki list here:
http://bakemonogatari.wikia.com/wiki/Monogatari_Series_Timeline_and_Watch_Guide

To summarize though araragi is the protagonist for Musubi and the other things are side stories. Musubi takes place 5 years later btw. We get shinobu and related character backstory including finding out why shinobu's original name is so ridiculous and long, we see nadeko do manga stuff, we see hanekawa do some cool stuff on her trip to find oshino, we see something with kanbaru, something with sodachi, something with karen, and something with tsukihi. Yotsugi is also there in some of the stuff. That's what's in off season. I don't think many of these things take place during the first 3 seasons like all the stuff of koyomi did. It's more like epilogue or backstory for a lot of people.

It kinda seems like monster season will focus on araragi in university but its really too soon to tell.
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GodHimselfx100 said:
You can look at the wiki list here:
http://bakemonogatari.wikia.com/wiki/Monogatari_Series_Timeline_and_Watch_Guide

To summarize though araragi is the protagonist for Musubi and the other things are side stories. Musubi takes place 5 years later btw. We get shinobu and related character backstory including finding out why shinobu's original name is so ridiculous and long, we see nadeko do manga stuff, we see hanekawa do some cool stuff on her trip to find oshino, we see something with kanbaru, something with sodachi, something with karen, and something with tsukihi. Yotsugi is also there in some of the stuff. That's what's in off season. I don't think many of these things take place during the first 3 seasons like all the stuff of koyomi did. It's more like epilogue or backstory for a lot of people.

It kinda seems like monster season will focus on araragi in university but its really too soon to tell.


Holy Sh*t! That's a lot!
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Every Monogatari book will get an anime, it's just a matter of when really.
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GodHimselfx100 said:
Monogatari is broken into 5 seasons. First season (bake, kizu, nise, neko black), second season (neko white, kabukimono, hana, otori, oni, koi), final season (tsuki, koyomi, owari, zokuowari), off season (oraka, waza, nade, musubi), monster season (shinobu, yoi, amari, ougi, shino). That's light novel release order and season info. The anime has adapted everything from season 1, 2 and all of final except zokuowari. Off season is next and supposedly oraka is already in the making. The LNs have released up to shinobu. Off season is like a collection of side stories and background stuff including shinobu's origins and hanekawa's trip to look for oshino. The book out of monster season so far takes place around when hana does as far as I'm aware. I don't actually read the novels though, just going based on the wiki.


So, what about off season? Is it still focused on Araragi or it's just another side stories like monster season?
Umm off seasons except Musubimonogatari are all side stories. Musubi is focused on Araragi(HE BECOMES A POLICEMAN!)
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Aredros said:
ok ok.... I'm really happy about it... but WHY?!

I don't get it, for years I have been struggling with the fact that most good based on something anime are a way to promote the original material and most of them are going to not be adapted entirely and some others are going to be shitty adapted

Then monogatari shows up and give us.... I cannot even count how many different seasons... and of high quality... why?
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So, what about off season? Is it still focused on Araragi or it's just another side stories like monster season?
Umm off seasons except Musubimonogatari are all side stories. Musubi is focused on Araragi(HE BECOMES A POLICEMAN!)


Why am I not even surprised he chose to be a policeman
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JhSung said:
Umm off seasons except Musubimonogatari are all side stories. Musubi is focused on Araragi(HE BECOMES A POLICEMAN!)


Why am I not even surprised he chose to be a policeman


I fear for the little lost girls who will try to get help from him
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Why am I not even surprised he chose to be a policeman


I fear for the little lost girls who will try to get help from him


Mayoi did fine. She God-ed.
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There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that Zokuowari will get an adaptation. The real question is; how far will the series go? There are still 10 more announced books that could be adapted, but sales will only keep going down, so at what point will Aniplex and Kodansha stop funding it? Owari 1 and Koyomi both sold ~25K blu rays in each volumes' first week, and kizu averaged 35K each, which is still mega-hit status, but nowhere near Bake's 90K+. We have yet to see what this will sell, but I anticipate a significant drop once they start adapting the side stories of Off Season.
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There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that Zokuowari will get an adaptation. The real question is; how far will the series go? There are still 10 more announced books that could be adapted, but sales will only keep going down, so at what point will Aniplex and Kodansha stop funding it? Owari 1 and Koyomi both sold ~25K blu rays in each volumes' first week, and kizu averaged 35K each, which is still mega-hit status, but nowhere near Bake's 90K+. We have yet to see what this will sell, but I anticipate a significant drop once they start adapting the side stories of Off Season.
look at gundam some series bomb some sell it doesnt matter as long as merch sells..


monogatari is more than just the animated series its now a mobile game, merch, and ln, characters are used for advertising products.

madoka hasnt had an anime but it still makes money from merchandise. as long as the entire franchise makes money they will invest in this advertisment we call anime.
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Huh, I've always been under the impression that Zokuowari is the actual conclusion to the main story.
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Monogatari still sells and Nisio is still writing, so there's no way they would stop adapting it.
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Aredros said:
ok ok.... I'm really happy about it... but WHY?!

I don't get it, for years I have been struggling with the fact that most good based on something anime are a way to promote the original material and most of them are going to not be adapted entirely and some others are going to be shitty adapted

Then monogatari shows up and give us.... I cannot even count how many different seasons... and of high quality... why?


You can't exactly say that isn't the case here. The anime only in no way comes close to adapting all of the content in the books. Smart decisions about what to quickly flash on screen are part of what make this adaption good. It actually adapts the content to the medium, resulting in consistently high quality and no rushing to cram everything in. The anime realizes the pacing of the dialog is more important than having all of the dialog present.

An upside is when you go and read the books afterwards there will really be enough material you haven't seen where it's like, Oh my god, there is so much Monogatari left to go! And then there's Zaregoto.
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Aredros said:
ok ok.... I'm really happy about it... but WHY?!

I don't get it, for years I have been struggling with the fact that most good based on something anime are a way to promote the original material and most of them are going to not be adapted entirely and some others are going to be shitty adapted

Then monogatari shows up and give us.... I cannot even count how many different seasons... and of high quality... why?


It depends on several factors but it's in the same way that original anime or adaptations of older/completed sources exist. There are simply several reasons for adapting/creating a show and several ways of income.

The Monogatari Series for example has sold an immense number of BDs and DVDs (Bake and Mono: SS reeling in around 3.5b Yen each just for the first release which is around $31m) and this isn't even including all sort of other incomes like merchandise, licenses, re-releases, streaming and that it's also promoting the source material at the same time.
Other shows pull off similar stuff while being completely original ones (Madoka, Gundam, Code Geass) or being adaptations of older/completed material (FMA: B, JoJo).

It's just that the average series can't pull off something like this and instead contents itself with being just a promotional adaptation most of the time instead.
There is around 30-40 shows per season so around 120-160 per year yet in the years 2013/2014/2015/2016, only 12/12/16/9 of them managed to sell over 10k+ BD/DVD copies on average.
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Wait can someone tell me what the ''Off Season" is? Is that similar to what is going on with the new "Monster Season"? Does it have something to do with Zokuowarimonogatari? I'm like decades behind on any knowledge from the LNs SO PLEASE FILL ME IN!!!!!!


Off Season consists of additional stories that occur throughout the series timeline. From my understanding (I could be wrong) they are practically side stories that don't directly affect the plot. I'm not sure though cause I haven't read it.

Though I did hear Musubimonogatari (last part of Off Season) is pretty good, I don't know much about it.

Monster Season is the continuation with new stories and what not. I haven't read that either but Shinobumonogatari (First Part of Monster Season) recently came out last month.

Zokuowarimonogatari is the final part of the Monogatari: Final Season which is after Owarimonogatari


is that including hanekawa song? you know the part when hanekawa and araragi went to karaoke and she cut her hair off~
so i supposed it is gonna be like koyomimonogatari and with some last episodes be a possibility sequel after hanamonogatari?

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