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Sep 18, 2014 7:26 AM
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Wow, whatever that woman got into her system, the syringe must of been a large dose or something. Eh, the battles were alright I suppose. Got the point across.

Kinda slow episode except some bits in the second half. Oh shit, that ending ;_;
Sep 18, 2014 10:11 AM
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So of course we get the whole, 'we won't know what reika told him' bit, at least for a time. But yeah, dat backstory.
Sep 18, 2014 10:15 AM
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i'm glad that the sister thing is solved (apparently), so now we can focus on jamie :)
good first half season
Sep 18, 2014 10:22 AM
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Micronique said:
So of course we get the whole, 'we won't know what reika told him' bit, at least for a time. But yeah, dat backstory.


It looked like she just told him she loved him to me, going by the way she was caressing his face and from her mouth movements.
Sep 18, 2014 10:26 AM
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It was good to know about Reika's back story. Too bad, Samonji can't save Reika.
Sep 18, 2014 11:07 AM
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Irenesharda said:
Micronique said:
So of course we get the whole, 'we won't know what reika told him' bit, at least for a time. But yeah, dat backstory.


It looked like she just told him she loved him to me, going by the way she was caressing his face and from her mouth movements.


Yeah after double checking that bit, I can agree to that. Fair
Sep 18, 2014 11:23 AM
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Micronique said:
Irenesharda said:


It looked like she just told him she loved him to me, going by the way she was caressing his face and from her mouth movements.


Yeah after double checking that bit, I can agree to that. Fair


I think so too.
Sep 18, 2014 11:26 AM
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Strong episode.
It's really nice to see the backstory of what happened to Reika san.
And i have to say that i really like her personality it was very interesting to watch her behaviour and funny how the commander reacted to it.
Seems he has always been stoic.
Still it was a sad ending tho, tho we knew she wasn't going to make it.

I also wander what this will mean for the rest of the story.
And what will happen to the unit now that they get new models, seems like their strength is increasing as well now.
Sep 18, 2014 11:50 AM
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Reika NOOOOOOOOOOO T_____T

That guy who said kill her. I was like : 0 then Samoji punched him and the other guy. BAD@SS Samoji. But still Reika TwT
Sep 18, 2014 12:57 PM

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Sep 18, 2014 1:12 PM
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That was one excellent episode. I mean we all knew what was coming, but it was so well delivered and put together. And the most amazing thing was that we got a fairly good idea of Reika's character with only 20 minutes or so of screen time.

The animation quality might be awful at times but I insist that this show is criminally underrated. It's a shame more people didn't give it a shot after it's weak beginning.
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Sep 18, 2014 1:44 PM
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Good Background Episode...

History Repeats itself since its looks the main character got new version of those black suits.
Sep 18, 2014 1:57 PM

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Nice to get backstory on Reika. That was sad though.
Sep 18, 2014 2:54 PM
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Excellent backstory of Reika. Tbh, this is the best episode thus far.

Poor Samonji.. He must've started liking Reika and to have her die in his arms like this is just.. T_T
I wonder what did she say to him at her last moments.

Good to see Tokimune back with all his confusion cleared. Thanks to lovely lady Suzushiro.

Great episode! Some good actions incoming next week. Looks like Tokimune will be back in form too.
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Sep 18, 2014 2:58 PM

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Great episode.
Got a good grasp of Reika's character.
For Reika to go out like that.. :(
Samonji :(
Irenesharda said:
Micronique said:
So of course we get the whole, 'we won't know what reika told him' bit, at least for a time. But yeah, dat backstory.


It looked like she just told him she loved him to me, going by the way she was caressing his face and from her mouth movements.

Makes sense.
Sep 18, 2014 4:46 PM

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Irenesharda said:
Micronique said:
So of course we get the whole, 'we won't know what reika told him' bit, at least for a time. But yeah, dat backstory.


It looked like she just told him she loved him to me, going by the way she was caressing his face and from her mouth movements.


I can agree with that. That was a damn good backstory though for the Captain and Reika's relationship.

Sep 18, 2014 5:07 PM

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After knowing about the past of her sister, seems that everything was resolved very quickly, this was one of the points of the anime and mystery has already been dispelled, Tokimune should think about is revenge on those who saw his sister being a guinea pig for testing and even so did nothing, including the captain himself Samonji, if not he loses the whole point of having entered the army
Would next week will have new opening?
Sep 18, 2014 5:48 PM

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Clearly implied a relationship between the two of them as there is only one way she can ensure whispering things in his ear every night for the rest of his life... but a tragic end to the whole experiment. It's still obvious that there are a lot of things going on around the independent unit, and at this point I don't have much affection for the leadership of Arandas, so it will be interesting to see where that goes. Suzushiro has been with him for quite a while, and it looks like she may have always had feelings about him, but has yet to act. I actually find that to be a bit more interesting couple than Jamie and Tokimune.
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Sep 18, 2014 6:04 PM

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Even though the first half was slow, I liked it. Hopefully, the second half will speed up.
Sep 19, 2014 12:27 AM
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Little disappointed. First half was quite generic and predictable.
Finally learn about the tragedy of Argent Point. The place looked rebuilt from earlier episode. Quasimodo mentions no plaque or memorial was put up but did not mention for who or what. Ends up being Reika Nanjou, Tokimunes sister. Not sure why it was covered up especially since they knew Tokimune was her younger brother.

Samonji finds out from the Brigadier General Cowen, feels guilty and admits to Tokimune that he had killed her sister. Which wasn't the exact truth. Colenel Izumi mentions that Samonji tried to get Tokimune away from Argevollen by getting hit by him.

Sister ends up being inside Argevollen? Unmanned kriegers out of control. Instead of ordering them to shoot each other, they turn her own Trail Krieger, shutting down the experiment by killing her self? Reika manages to utter some final words before her death in the arms of Samonji. Her words are inaudible which makes me believe it may have something to do with Brigadier General Cayenne? or some conspiracy.

Colonel Izumi informs Samonji that new Trail Kriegers and personnel are being transferred to the 8th Unit. Great, so perhaps we will see new characters? Who will pilot Argevollen now? I doubt they will dabble with unmanned machines again.

Colonel Izumi also informs Samonji to watch out for the Brigadier General Cayenne. Which he replies to I know. Tokimune seems fine after having somewhat of a mental breakdown after hearing the story. He apologises to Samonji, maybe the two will have a stronger relationship after all this.

No Argevollen next week 25/9 :(. Need to know whats gonna happen now that most of the groundwork has been set.
Sep 19, 2014 1:24 AM
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So that's what happen to Reika, so why would Samoji take up the cudgels for killing her whe she is the one who killed herself?
Sep 19, 2014 3:16 AM
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So that's what happen to Reika, so why would Samoji take up the cudgels for killing her whe she is the one who killed herself?


Perhaps he blames himself because despite being aware of the enormous strain the system took on her, he didn't do anything to remove her from there. Or because he wasn't able to stop her before she used the mecha to kill herself.
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Sep 19, 2014 1:04 PM

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Great episode. Glad I didnt drop this anime.

Half way point (24 episodes). Will episode 13 air on Thursday September 25 or on Thursday October 02 along with the Fall 2014 animes?


October 2nd, unfortunately.


Great episode once again this week. That's two good episodes in a row. Reika was a very likable character. It's a shame she had to go like that...
Sep 19, 2014 2:11 PM

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Easily the best episode so far.

^

Reika is absolutely delicious.
Sep 19, 2014 3:25 PM

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Samonji and Suzushiro changed quite a bit between the events of Argent Point and the time Tokimune joins up with them. Especially Suzushiro though. From being totally insecure especially when it comes to Samonji, she became the thing that holds the squad together,with Samonji on one side and the others on the other side. She also knows what Samonji is thinking quite well now.

And she would indeed command Quasimodo, if he hadn't left the army.

Now it remains to be seen how Samonji and Tokimune work things out. And how Jaime uses what she learned of Tokimune. Too bad it's two weeks to the next episode :/
Sep 19, 2014 5:44 PM

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This anime just went from generic plot to awesome in 1 episode.
Sep 19, 2014 6:30 PM

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It was indeed good. It was predictable BUT it was well delivered, although yeah there were some bad qualities here and there, as usual ..

I'm also glad this thing of the sister is kinda settled up, now the show can finally focus on the characters that are still alive.

Also, Samonji gains some points overall.
Sep 19, 2014 7:27 PM

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So Samonji was demoted before Reika's death. I was thinking before this episode that they were related, but that's clearly a whole new story! Good to see Tokimune hasn't lost his will to fight despite the fact he was successful in finding out what happened to his sister, which was his goal from the start. More insight into Samonji is always a good thing as well, great character! Looks like were going back to the battlefield for the next episode.
Sep 19, 2014 9:41 PM

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Easily the best episode so far.


Can't agree more
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Sep 19, 2014 9:56 PM

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So that's the story of Reika before she die. From bad to Good i was hoping more on this show.


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Nice to see the back story finally, and get to see why and 'major' is the way he is. And we get to see him punch his superiors! That was a real sucky death though, I wonder what went wrong... maybe we will find out.
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Am I the only one that didn't really like Reika besides her personality? She came across as pretty selfish and a rather crappy sister, at least in my opinion.

I mean she was able to live her life the way she wanted (i.e. to make it so that no one would die in war) even with her tragic demise, she lived life as she wanted to. But because of that slightly selfish desire (a noble goal though) to want to rid deaths, she directly robbed the life of her little brother Tokimune with her death.

Tokimune is in the army because of her, putting his life at constant risk for her, his sole reason for being in the army is to find out what happened to his sis and punish those responsible - is he really living his life the way his sister was able to live hers? Somehow I don't really think he is and I think this is what members of the independent unit 8 have been subtly hinting, that if he goes on the way he is he'll die. I think slowly with the influence of Jamie he's beginning to change.

I have a feeling this is where Jamie's role will come in - in future, maybe to give him something else to live for perhaps. I mean do you think it's a coincidence that Jamie happened to stumble into the field that Reika was in previously, happened to choose the exact same spot before Tokimune took the picture? I have a feeling that the importance Tokimune places on his sister & having revenge will be replaced by the importance of Jamie, at some time in the future. I think we'll be seeing a lot of development of the two together.

It's quite curious though that besides the snapback to the fields with Tokimune and Reika - we really have no background into what kind of brother/sister relationship they had. We only know Tokimune's affection but not her's for Tokimune.

Anyway Reika seems nice but she also seems pretty shitty as well, at least to me. For the reasons stated unless you assume she was stupid, but if she wasn't she must have had some inkling deep down that Tokimune might go to those lengths to find her killers and make them pay. I dunno, I don't think she's really deserving of Tokimune - could anyone here say for a fact, with complete confidence, that if the roles were reversed that Reika would do that for Tokimune? I'm not so sure.

The relationship between Samonji & Reika is interesting. I don't think it's love or liking someone, it's almost like a mutual affection of the non-romantic kind, like being very fond of someone but I think given more time it could have developed into something more maybe.

I also think that what Reika said at the end was nothing like/love related - although I could be wrong. Why would they blank out the words if it was just a confession of like/love? It makes me think that she told Samonji something else that may play a role in his motivation - maybe it's the reason why he's remained at that rank - could be a form of penance because he feels responsible.
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Sep 20, 2014 7:16 PM

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YES! this is what this show should had been from the start, this episode displayed excellent human drama of soldiers, let the 2nd half be more like this and this show cna actually be redeemed for its many failures so far.

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 21, 2014 3:27 AM

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Another solid episode from Argevollen. I wish this show had gotten Aldnoah's budget and art/animation.
Sep 21, 2014 8:10 AM

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So Samonji was demoted before Reika's death. I was thinking before this episode that they were related, but that's clearly a whole new story! Good to see Tokimune hasn't lost his will to fight despite the fact he was successful in finding out what happened to his sister, which was his goal from the start. More insight into Samonji is always a good thing as well, great character! Looks like were going back to the battlefield for the next episode.


So glad that I wasn't the only one to pick up on this. Clearly Samonji had issues with individuals in the army, which is why it wasn't his first time, nor his last in getting into trouble with the higher ups, hence his demotion to security detail. That dude that smiled an evil smile behind Samonji's back when he hit those superiors after Reika lost control of her Mech may be a clue to Samonji's back story.

That said I too believe that Samonji had developed a closer-than-friends relationship with Tokimune's sister. That stroke on the cheek, as well as the utterance of her first name (not even her surname) with no honorifics gave further evidence. I wonder if it had actually reached romantic territory though. Even Suzushiro stated that Reika would have been good for Samonji, had that catastrophic event not have happened, so everything may have been cut short.

That said, you have to wonder exactly what Tokimune will do after this info dump episode. We still have yet to discover the mystery of the weapons testing, as well as the deal with the army higher ups and their actual motives.

If this story helps to develop Tokimune's psyche and allows him to mature and become more humble of a soldier, then all the better.

Jamie on the other hand, I wonder how she'll face Tokimune from now on. She can't pretend not to have heard that conversation, and the fact that she is also using him as a Guinea pig to test the Argevollen will weigh heavily on her conscience, given that she's not as heartless as the rest of her company (who also seem to have something to do with Reika's death).

One week break will coincide with my holiday, so it's a welcome break for me at least. I don't have to obsess over catching up with another anime title next week.
Thank god for that :P
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Sep 21, 2014 5:43 PM

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I'm guessing they discontinued that experiment because of that incident. The whole reason why he joined the military was to discover the reason behind his sister's death so will he keep on fighting?
Sep 21, 2014 7:13 PM

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Just picked this anime up again after putting it on hold for a while.

The first six episodes, I will still contend, are a total chore to get through and I don't blame you if you fall asleep through them.

Everything from episode 7 on though is incredible.

There is much more attention paid to combined arms tactics (tanks and infantry are actually supporting the mechs?! Holy shit!), the "good guys" side uses tactics that would normally be considered "cowardly" (booby-trapping dead bodies, heavy use of mortars and artillery to kill from long-range) without a moral lecture on how evil it is, and enemy soldiers are given humanization (the Ingelmians in the bar talking about how scared they are of Argevollen, Richthofen drinking a toast to his dead friend), the difficulties one would realistically encounter with a super prototype (firmware updates, lack of spare parts, etc.).

This is better than Aldnoah in my books. So far, the only downsides to this show are a. pointless fanservice (I cringed at that ridiculous shot of Jamie shoving her ass in Tokimune's face) and b. the equally ridiculous "evil corporation funding all the wars on the planet". If they can tone down the fanservice (the little talk between the girls in the onsen was nice) and make the megacorp less stereotypical that would be the right direction for this show.
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Another solid episode from Argevollen. I wish this show had gotten Aldnoah's budget and art/animation.


^ this, this anime is so underrated..and 6.4? under the harem wars? come on MAL..

best episode, the back story and hikasa yoko as reika
Sep 24, 2014 10:49 PM

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No episode tomorrow.

Series returns October 2nd.
Sep 25, 2014 11:10 AM

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No episode tomorrow.

Series returns October 2nd.
Oh.
Well, it's only one week so it's not so bad.
Sep 26, 2014 9:20 PM

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Pretty sure she didn't tell him she loved him. It's what people would expect her to say, but during both intervals that she spoke, her mouth movements didn't match either "好きです" or "愛してる". It seems like she ended both times with a "mu" sound, with the first interval having two O syllables. Perhaps we'll find out in due time.

And the moment she died I thought "Yay Saori might finally get some loving."
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Sep 28, 2014 12:08 PM

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All the details from the many previous episodes and this episode really point toward Argevollen as the second version of this experiment or they could even go a step further by saying Argevollen was made from his sister's data or they can even add more drama to it by saying Argevollen is like his sister herself.


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Sep 29, 2014 6:47 AM

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All the details from the many previous episodes and this episode really point toward Argevollen as the second version of this experiment or they could even go a step further by saying Argevollen was made from his sister's data or they can even add more drama to it by saying Argevollen is like his sister herself.
yeah im kind of hoping this is the direction it takes, it'd also be great potential for tokimune to be a memorable character if hes faced with this dilema.

Alot of redemption can be coming out of this newest ep so i hope to god they follow through on it.

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Oct 2, 2014 12:18 PM

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Realy, not bad mecha. I'm glad what i didn't drop this anime.
Oct 9, 2014 8:17 AM

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4/5

Too bad, the final scene had to make it more dramatic, the script is to me like all the way, but nevertheless the story is quite good.
I think you had to linger longer and show the time of the death of Reika, the plates that dissolved under the blows of the mecha unmanned and then show her bloodied when he was pulled from the cockpit, which is what would have been a very dramatic scene.
Drawings and animations were horrible sometimes. I'm curious to see the next episode, what will happen?
Oct 19, 2014 4:55 PM

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Finally an above average episode after the one with the sunflowers. Any character other than Jamie and Tokimune are much more interesting to watch.
Nov 1, 2014 2:55 PM

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At least it was clarified about the past in relation to the general Reika. But it was very sad ;'( Maybe the medications caused much damage to her brain that control the machines at the same time
Nov 18, 2014 2:41 PM

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not my favorite episode but i guess it was needed
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T_T drama
how sad that she close her eyes
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good episode nice that are relationships between characters and not only fights...that made it more realistic
poor tokimune poor samonji
how is going jamie to act after hear the words of Suzushiro?
suzushiro loves samonji but is quiet....
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