english dub?

ok? German, not english? So why would you watch the english dub then? I get people wanting to watch in english dub but don't try to convince people that's the best, or for that matter, the originial experience. Jp dub is the original and VAs are better, every time. Translation mistakes also apply to english dub. Or even worse, they americanize it

You got to love all the sub elitists enraging over people not watching in Japanese for a story that was fully inspired by German themes and all character names are German lool

My friend is half American/ half Japanese but she watches with sub because her BF can't speak Japanese - she says often subs in anime have some terrible translations that miss meanings ....but still these elitists think they are superior

The Frieren S1 dub was incredible and that is my way to watch, so I wait

I'd rather lose a few translations than sit through that whole damn westernized crap made for the "American audience" tbh

Why would anybody prefer english voice over japanese? Those ppl must have some defect

I started watching anime dubbed originally and found it very limiting in what I was able to watch. Eventually I came across something that I really wanted to watch, but it didn't seem to have a dub, and I had to decide either to never watch it, or bite the bullet and watch subbed. I'm glad I watched it subbed. I gained confidence in my ability to watch subbed media and it opened up my whole world. I watch subbed media beyond just anime and it's been a wonderful experience. I still watch some dubs.

It's fine to like dubs, or prefer dubs, but maybe this is an opportunity for you to try the subbed experience instead of waiting. You can always watch the dub later if you want to, whenever that ends up coming out. Who knows? Maybe you'll find that it's not so difficult after all, and you'll get used to subs, and it will let you try out a lot more less popular anime. You will probably eventually come across other things that just are not and never will be dubbed. When that happens, you could be already comfortable with subs, or you could be forced to make a difficult decision instead.

@BeesWithKnives I love how when a more sensible post turns up, everyone pro dub stays quite. Let me add to this;

To those that believe dubs are a great substitute.. they generally are NOT. You may believe the only thing you are losing out on is the novelty of listening to the show in its native language but its more than that. When you choose anything outside of the original production you lose out on the very specific talent selected by the director & producer of a given show. In the case of anime, you willingly choose to lose out on the decades of experience in anime voice work production, along with all it's expertly curated vocal characterizations employed by Seiyuus. You might think American voice actors can replicate all these things, but the reality is very few can and even those that could for better or worse, choose not to because they would prefer to create from within than draw from their Japanese counterpart.

I know of probably one voice actor who made an attempt and nailed it, and that was Mata Faye the Eng voice actor for Aqua in Konosuba imitating Amamiya Sora's Jap counterpart. That's one specific case and it was quite good, excellent in fact. There are other similarly fine dubs like those from Mob Psycho, Cowbow Bebop, Black Lagoon, Violet Evergarden to name a few, but by and large many dubs are truly awful, subpar substitute for the original voicework.

As far as Frieren's dub goes it's not terrible, but its not great either. Primarily because of how great of a job the original voice actors do with the characters, specifically Tanezaki Atsumi who's incredibly talented and does such an amazing job with Frieren that its sad to see her talent passed up by the droves. There are of course a couple of bad voicework in dub Frieren, but I wont get into that. Those that know, know. I'll just point out that the Japanese voice work is far better in capturing the essence of the characters by comparison.

And it's not that I'm some insufferable weeb that cant get enough of Japanese, I recently watched The Fated Magical Princess in Chinese, because it's original production was you guessed it, Chinese! It took some getting use to for what, a single episode? And I don't regret it because I enjoyed the great voice work by the Chinese team. It sounded unique, convincing, and evocative in all kinds of emotions. And you know what else? the Chinese opening was beautiful! an opening which by the way the Japanese dubs counter-part does not share because it's song is unrelated, and does not follow the shows central melodic theme, go figure. See? it pays to follow original production. Yes the Fated Princess anime is based on a Korean novel, but its anime production company is Chinese.

So my point is its almost always better to go with the original production language, be that language English, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, whatever(Jackie Chan movies with Spanish dubs anyone?). As user BeesWithKnives says, it's not that hard to read subs and watch. It just takes time. With time you too can see the value in watching with subs. And your watch will be enriched for it.

death, taxes and all these elitists getting so angry and upset over how other people consume media while watching often poorly translated subs

some people's deep desire to control what other people do baffles me, who hurt you...

@LordKirkis Yeah, those are good points. Japanese VAs are the best in the world, because it's a very serious discipline there. I'd compare it to how British actors are generally required to put in a lot of stage time honing their craft, Shakespeare, etc., before they ever got a TV or movie role. That's not to say every Japanese VA is vastly better than dub VAs in other languages, but they do tend to have a lot of training and are multi-talented performers.

But more important than that is probably just the fact that the original VAs are working directly with the studio making the rest of the thing. They are getting direction straight from the director of the anime. They are picked specifically for their role, out of a huge pool of potential very talented and experienced hires. They generally have good relationships with the studios they work for, know the creatives and what they want. Dubs are directed by somebody else, not from the original studio, and there's really no telling what that direction might be, and how it might diverge from the original intent. A lot of subtlety can be lost. It's almost the same thing as having a different animation studio do localized animation based on just the original audio and then somebody's descriptions of each shot or sequence. It'll end up looking quite different. Maybe different is just as good, or even better. but it'll definitely be different. The odds of it being as good or better goes way down the better the original happens to be. A high budget anime from one of the best studios in Japan is not likely to be surpassed in quality by a localization team, but even if it is, it'll still not be the original creative intent.

But besides all that, I do think being able to handle subs is a worthwhile skill to master, because once you do you can watch all kinds of stuff. I watch a ton of international content now, from all sorts of countries, not just anime.

@YordaTrico

It's hardly anyone's place to tell others how to enjoy their anime or cartoons, but the discussions are still worth having if you ask me.

The expressive vocalizations.. the voice acting matter just as much as the verbal context, that's the part that's lost on so many dub watchers. It's not too dissimilar as enjoying bad acting. Why favor bad acting over purposeful direction and exemplary execution?

but is all so subjective and that is what sub elitists can't accept because ego, arrogance and narcissism tells them to lash out against people who don't conform to their way of consuming media, someone hurt them many years ago and now dub watchers are their punching bag

Expression is not something that is exclusive to Japanese people and the fact that some of you think this is a legitimate talking point is so incredibly hilarious to me that I am adding it to the list of "reasons why I wouldn't be surprised to find out life is a simulation"

I remember watching Spice and Wolf in sub and Holo sounded like a child and Lawrence was just shouting everything, then I watched the dub and it was so amazing with such incredible expression and emotion in every word.

and sub elitists also can't accept this way of thinking...

"one man's trash is another man's treasure"

I am completely at peace with that sentiment, it doesn't anger me or upset me or offend me if anyone consumes media in a way I don't

but the sub elitists cannot claim the same, they want control and belittle when people don't do things their way and when I see my mum later I will give her a little extra thank you for not raising me to be so bitter that I desired to do control others

Ultimately OP asked when the dub was out, they didn't ask for anything else but the sub elitist egos can't just see a post about dub and think "I am not interested, nothing to see here"

@YordaTrico I don't believe anyone is lashing out on anyone. Maybe that's just how some feel after being presented with an opinion?

Also Holo is voiced by "Koshimizu, Ami". You really have no idea how great of a Seiyuu she is lol.. insane. Koshimizu Ami is an award winning Seiyuu and among the best in the industry. She's worked as a Seiyuu for over 2 decades now.

Again, still not capable of grasping the fact that the opinions were not in any way good faith, constructive or relevant because

OP asked "Hello, where or when I can find the anime with english dub?"

and sub elitists can't just ignore the post and have to flood it with their opinions that were not asked for because ego, arrogance, narcissism and desire to control others.

And RE Holo - again it is all subjective https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/subjective

I am ok with the science and sentiment of that, I am ok that you feel differently about it than I do and I have no desire to change how you consume your media because I do not have a desire to control others

@YordaTrico

Not like we are spreading misinformation. Rather discussing other means of enjoying a show not yet available with the desired voice over. A means for watching a show that is arguably better? Subjective yes, I cant argue that..

That said there is such a thing as a bad opinion and a good opinion. Though I'd wager you'd never believe that.

Some people simply don’t like reading. Some are dyslexic. People simply have preferences in how they want to enjoy something

Edit: did I not hit the quote button

I like how OP literally just asks about the English dub, without any judgments for or against subs or subs, and the thread immediately turns into a sub vs dub buttmad meltdown blast.

@Pjwned

I am watching anime since the 80s and this has been a thing since forever.
When anime started to get traction in the west in the late 80s/early 90s it was the other way around funnily enough.
Having a show with subs was considered inferior and cheap, basically " they could not even bother to dub it into English, must be trash!".
Only over the years it switched to most people preferring the Japanese voices and looking down on anyone watching dubs.
Personally i just prefer to watch a show in the language it was written for, so if a show is from Japan i watch in Japanese with subs, if its from France i watch in French with subs and so on.
I just feel you get the most authentic experience of what the creators intended that way.
But everyone should watch how they like it best, be it dubbed or subs.

I thought the dub was good but i could not stand the Frieren voice actress.
Just completely wrong for the character. Frieren is supposed to be a brat, barely out of her teenage years for a elf
and that often shines through her action and personality.
And the English dub gave her this wise old "mommy" voice and made her into a sarcastic snarker which so is not Frieren.
Just took me out of it right away.

Imagine watching a show not set in Japan, with an entirely white cast, and thinking that they should be speaking Japanese for some reason. It looks incredibly dumb.