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commonxreaction said: That was probably the best episode of this season. I certainly wasn't expecting Raphtalia to become a vassal-wielder. And, while that's cool and puts her in a position to stand with Naofumi as an equal -- doesn't it now mean they can't really travel together because of the experience penalty? Dat Raphtalia fanservice moment was nice too. Only cardinal heroes have that xp penalty. It doesn't apply to vassal heroes. |
commonxreaction said: Oh okay, I assumed cardinal heroes and vassal wielders were essentially the same thing. But I guess because they are from different "worlds" there are different rules. Now that I think about it, I guess they didn't have to worry about the experience thing at the end of the first season when they were teamed up with L'Arc. Every world has cardinal and vassal heroes. Vassal heroes are weaker, but there's more of them than cardinal heroes. The rules are about the same in every world. For example: Kizuna complained when she first met Naofumi that she didn't receive xp for the monster she defeated when saving the gang. |
| Hmm didn't expect Raphtalia to stop being Naofumi' slave... because she became an actual Hero. Though we all know the word 'slave' was just symbolic for those two lol Episode is eh at best tho... |
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lihle808 said: Raphtalia's character development was going great until Naofumi swooped in and stole the limelight AGAIN! Meh! Her needing some help after escaping a prison, dealing with immense growing pains, and kicking trash2/kizuki ass...isn't a problem. It just shows that she's not overpowered. |
GabrielCri said: Yaggamy said: Oh boy, so many problems with this anime original episode... - Crammed a lot of stuff into a single episode - Budget fights - Characters teleport to places without guards chasing them - Milking smol-Raphtalia for views - Naked Raphtalia for fanservice - Illogical chain of events. Kyo said to bring Raphtalia to his lab so he can experiment on her. But instead she's in prison for some reason... - They cut out so many scenes of L'Arch's group that it feels illogical for them to help Raphtalia in any way. They went from enemies to allies offscreen... - Naofumi and Raphtalia reunion didn't have weight. They were separated for only a day There's a perfect source material for this arc. The studio only had one job, to follow it! You forgot the Kazuki part doesn't recognize Raphtalia when holding the Katana, that breaks that change,raphatalia is in the Labyrinth... The Raphatalia Fanservice part was one of the worst things I've seen. Episode 10 would be the best ep, Raphatalia accepting the unrequited fate of being Katana's heroine and forgetting the slave coat of arms, so Raph was my favorite character, but it was destroyed... That's such a dumb take honestly, Raphtalia was great this episode. Who the f cares about 10 seconds of fanservice. Like really? No privates were even shown and the scene made sense in the context of what was happening. It's not like Raphtalia went out of character to intentionally get naked. Even the light novel has fanservice (even fan service for Raphtalia) but I guess that's fine because it's in the source... Have no clue what you mean by "slave coat of arms". She didn't forget about her slave crest and she was worried about it being gone. You source readers can be hella ridiculous sometimes. |
GabrielCri said: Killuan said: That's such a dumb take honestly, Raphtalia was great this episode. Who the f cares about 10 seconds of fanservice. Like really? No privates were even shown and the scene made sense in the context of what was happening. It's not like Raphtalia went out of character to intentionally get naked. Even the light novel has fanservice (even fan service for Raphtalia) but I guess that's fine because it's in the source... Have no clue what you mean by "slave coat of arms". She didn't forget about her slave crest and she was worried about it being gone. You source readers can be hella ridiculous sometimes. Well... I have to say that this was one of the worst things I've ever seen, I even exaggerated. But that doesn't take away the fact of why I find it so unnecessary for my favorite character. If you liked the fanservice, ok for you, but for me, it's not pleasing... And I didn't say "coat of arms", if I did, sorry for my horrible english. And yes, she forgot the slave coat, because she was afraid if Naofumi would stay mad at her, and apparently not. This is a great development by Raphatlalia to let go of this slave seal obsession (as was shown in ep 1 of this season). But I'm criticizing how this development was executed. And I'm not LN reader, I only read the manga (these scenes don't exist by the original material as some said). I don't care one or or the other, but to act like the fanservice was that bad is just silly. It was a very short scene of Raphtalia changing into her miko outfit. What did it detract from? If ten seconds of fanservice of the series most popular character can get some people talking about the series again, then there is no downside to it. I can understand if Raphtalia showed fanservice in an uncharacteristic kind of way...but she didn't. She was shy, and as uncomfortable as she would normally be in a situation like that. So the only thing there is to be upset about is seeing a little bit of skin from Raphtalia. But it's kind of baffling to why that's such a terrible thing. It's way less fanservice than episode 7 of season 1 where Raphtalia was by herself in the onsen. I still don't know what you mean with the slave crest. I empathize with english not being your first language, but the wording is really difficult to understand. As soon as Raphtalia noticed her slave crest was gone she got noticably worried and started to ask herself "what happened" What was there to criticize about? As far as i'm concerned when Raphtalia said that she didn't want to just be his sword, that she wanted to also stand beside him... was a great moment for her. Because it means that she wants to be his equal, and not his follower. This is development we never get in even the LN because we almost never scenes focused on Raphtalia's PoV. |
| Okay that reunion between Ralphtalia and Naofumi was hella sweet. Seeing Naofumi tear up in relief was just too sweet |
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| Oh god they screwed up the pacing again, here I thought they actually managed to fix things but somehow they managed to make the most anticipated character growth for rapthalia even worse..They skipped way too many things and the animated fight scene felt like some powerpoint stuff. Very disappointed. While I'm not a big fan of anime original adaptation but I do understand sometimes compromises needs to be made and adjustments are necessary given the budget and time constraint a episode/season has. But this is just..bad.. It's your typical studio trying their best to make thing's look like they are working but in fact it did not. If you're watching from an anime only viewer point of view it just felt ridiculous that raphtalia suddenly got powered up that much and dishing out these moves left and right, they didn't even bother spending a few minutes to explain that. And suddenly after single handedly owerpowering the smol tigers and the villain , she was reduced to unable to fight when the bigger one shows up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ?? What am I gonna do with a 3rd season of this show? |
on Typecero said: Killuan said: I don't care one or or the other, but to act like the fanservice was that bad is just silly. It was a very short scene of Raphtalia changing into her miko outfit. What did it detract from? If ten seconds of fanservice of the series most popular character can get some people talking about the series again, then there is no downside to it. I can understand if Raphtalia showed fanservice in an uncharacteristic kind of way...but she didn't. She was shy, and as uncomfortable as she would normally be in a situation like that. So the only thing there is to be upset about is seeing a little bit of skin from Raphtalia. But it's kind of baffling to why that's such a terrible thing. It's way less fanservice than episode 7 of season 1 where Raphtalia was by herself in the onsen. I still don't know what you mean with the slave crest. I empathize with english not being your first language, but the wording is really difficult to understand. As soon as Raphtalia noticed her slave crest was gone she got noticably worried and started to ask herself "what happened" What was there to criticize about? As far as i'm concerned when Raphtalia said that she didn't want to just be his sword, that she wanted to also stand beside him... was a great moment for her. Because it means that she wants to be his equal, and not his follower. This is development we never get in even the LN because we almost never scenes focused on Raphtalia's PoV. ^ Someone is starting to sound like a "The Last Jedi" defender. There is a reason the score for Shield Hero S2 is still dropping, and not going up after that "reunion". You can keep giving all the excuses in the world Killuan, but that score dropping speaks far louder than your "DEFEND AT ALL COSTS". Shield Hero is currently LOWER THAN OTOME GAME. That says alot for how badly it is performing. It's dropping because of the ST arc and people didn't even try to get passed it into the otherworld arc. It's definitely not because of this current arc. Places like ANN and CR where the ratings are per episode, the overall ratings have increased dramatically. This episode having the highest episode rating yet. |
GabrielCri said: Killuan said: I don't care one or or the other, but to act like the fanservice was that bad is just silly. It was a very short scene of Raphtalia changing into her miko outfit. What did it detract from? If ten seconds of fanservice of the series most popular character can get some people talking about the series again, then there is no downside to it. I can understand if Raphtalia showed fanservice in an uncharacteristic kind of way...but she didn't. She was shy, and as uncomfortable as she would normally be in a situation like that. So the only thing there is to be upset about is seeing a little bit of skin from Raphtalia. But it's kind of baffling to why that's such a terrible thing. It's way less fanservice than episode 7 of season 1 where Raphtalia was by herself in the onsen. I still don't know what you mean with the slave crest. I empathize with english not being your first language, but the wording is really difficult to understand. As soon as Raphtalia noticed her slave crest was gone she got noticably worried and started to ask herself "what happened" What was there to criticize about? As far as i'm concerned when Raphtalia said that she didn't want to just be his sword, that she wanted to also stand beside him... was a great moment for her. Because it means that she wants to be his equal, and not his follower. This is development we never get in even the LN because we almost never scenes focused on Raphtalia's PoV. what you said doesn't make sense. You said you don't care one or the other, but still judging me just for my opinion. I'm not much of a fanservice complainer, I just ignore it, but when it comes to one of my characters favourites, I have the right to criticize... And yes, the first season had more fanservice than that, but at that moment I watched it I didn't really care about it, only after reading the manga. And that's exactly what you said: Raphatalia wanted to be by Naofumi's side, or rather, be "connected" to him, and the slave crest was the connection, but she sees now that she doesn't need it anymore... What I'm criticizing is the direction, because didn't show me anything epic... I'm judging you for your opinion that ten seconds of fanservice somehow makes the episode worse. Unless you have that same mentality for the fanservice moments in S1, and the fanservice moments in every other anime...then this seems biased. Shield Hero has less fanservice than 95% of anime with cute girls, and this remains true even though we got ten seconds of it for the first time in this entire season. The slave crest isn't needed anymore. It may be a connection between him and her, but it also signifies a power imbalance. She is fine with being his property. And while he never abuses that power over her, it's something that can't exist between a relationship of equals. The slave crest doesn't put her beside him, it puts her behind him. "by his side" is a saying meaning "as equals" And Raphtalia needs to be equal to him if she's ever going to become his significant other. |
Killuan said: It's dropping because of the ST arc and people didn't even try to get passed it into the otherworld arc. It's definitely not because of this current arc. Places like ANN and CR where the ratings are per episode, the overall ratings have increased dramatically. This episode having the highest episode rating yet. The score is still dropping because the whole season is bad. On the anime subreddit this episode ranked 14th. https://i.redd.it/ro7vqv4pm6591.png |
Yaggamy said: The score is still dropping because the whole season is bad. On the anime subreddit this episode ranked 14th. https://i.redd.it/ro7vqv4pm6591.png That rating uses so many different variables and is largely influenced by popularity and current viewership, and then when it comes to the actual part that shows a rating...there is like 100 measly voters. Look at this: https://ibb.co/XV3Nfyr r/anime and MAL have tiny poll ratings hugely influenced by a bunch of haters downvoting it. And it's easy to manipulate because of the small voter pool. |
KilluanJun 13, 2022 4:00 PM
| This was definitely the best episode so far! Watching Raphtalia getting more badass is definitely a given, and now she climbed into an unknown level of OP, since her katana scene was so badass, i can't wait for more. And oh boy, as soon as i heard Filo's scream it was obvious that they were coming! What a scene.  Now i wonder how all of this will end, and it seems that the next episode will be Kizuna based which is always good. |
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Typecero said: Killuan said: I'm judging you for your opinion that ten seconds of fanservice somehow makes the episode worse. Unless you have that same mentality for the fanservice moments in S1, and the fanservice moments in every other anime...then this seems biased. Shield Hero has less fanservice than 95% of anime with cute girls, and this remains true even though we got ten seconds of it for the first time in this entire season. The slave crest isn't needed anymore. It may be a connection between him and her, but it also signifies a power imbalance. She is fine with being his property. And while he never abuses that power over her, it's something that can't exist between a relationship of equals. The slave crest doesn't put her beside him, it puts her behind him. "by his side" is a saying meaning "as equals" And Raphtalia needs to be equal to him if she's ever going to become his significant other. Don't let your love for Shield Hero blind you to its flaws. You are defending trash. If I had to tell you "Just watch 2 hours of this 4 hour movie. I swear it gets good!", that is the sign of a terrible movie. Raphtalia will never be equal to Naofumi, and the studio's portrayal of this proves how little they care to defend your claims. You could be right BY THE LIGHT NOVEL'S STANDARDS... But this studio altered her arc, made her moments dumber (good job Kyo. Giant Prison and you stick Raphtalia with the people you have SEEN HER ALLY WITH), and even stripped her naked... They don't know or care for Raphtalia in the same way you do. Life is Tough for Mobs has low budget, terrible facial animation, and terrible fights... AND SHIELD HERO IS LOSING TO IT. A good story and good emotional moments can overcome... Shield Hero? terrible story(?) made worse by an incomptent studio. They clearly do not care for being faithful by the evidence of how much they want to rewrite a vital character's moment... But don't worry! We only have to COMPLETELY RUSH THROUGH THE REST OF VOLUME 9! ...oh I forgot to mention, Raphtalia's arc is in Novel 8... so we have 3 episodes to cover THE REST OF NOVEL 8 AND ALL OF NOVEL 9. Keep on defending them Killuan, they will SURELY GET THIS PART RIGHT! ...surely they can the last 25% right? I ain't letting anything blind me. I genuinely think the anime has adapted V8 better than the LN showed it. The LN focus on a singular perspective really hurt the volume because there was so much lost as a result. Spirit Tortoise hurt S2 pretty badly, but it was also adapting a pretty shitty arc. The manga took a big hit while adapting that arc. But it's what happens when you have to linger on an unlikable arc for so long. People give up and move on. It's a shame, but has the otherworld arc been the first arc of the series things would have been a lot better for the series popularity. Sadly most people live by a 4episode at most to determine a series quality, and S2 took 7 episodes to get going again. That's where you're wrong. The way that Naofumi is depicted in the anime gives a much greater chance for them to reach true equals. LN Naofumi is depicted in such an unchanging way that no amount of her sassing is going to change their relationship much. We never get Raphtalia's point of view and we certainly never get her talking about 'standing beside him' and not merely being his sword. If this isn't a one-off thing and they build on it, then Raphtalia and Naofumi's relationship will have developed more by the end of the 3rd season then they have over the last 22 volumes of the light novel. How did they make her moments dumber when they're literally anime original moments? They gave her scenes. The LN just shafted her. You're free to think of them as dumb, but to me they're great character building moments while also adding the cuteness of child Raphtalia. Something that makes sense to make use of considering it's the last time we get to see her. And excuse me for not being upset that Raphtalia had a little fanservice scene. As long as she is in character, I really don't care. The fact that the ten second fanservice scene keeps getting brought up is honestly just nitpicking at this point. Season 1 had some fanservice, but SH remains a series with much less fanservice than the average anime. And that fact extents to season 2 as well. You're under the impression that a truly faithful adaptation would make this series more liked...perhaps by source readers...but I don't agree with that in terms of anime only viewers. The production committee decides how long a series is going to run and how much content it will cover. There is no way around that. Whether the anime tries to be faithful or not, it is working with 13 episodes for 4 volumes. The only thing being faithful does is that it removes the series most popular character for half of the arc and then replaces it with more fuehhh and Naofumi acting restless because Raphtalia is away. Raphtalia didn't have an arc in LN 8 because they skipped over it. Y'know, because the whole novel is from Naofumi's pov. |
KilluanJun 13, 2022 7:38 PM
| It was an okay episode, I didn't procrastinate much from this actually. But I hope there is an explanation as to why Raphtalia suddenly grew and on why her crest is gone. Felt rushed for sure, the dialogue felt weird and unnatural to me. |
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AhriTheS3xyFox said: It was an okay episode, I didn't procrastinate much from this actually. But I hope there is an explanation as to why Raphtalia suddenly grew and on why her crest is gone. Felt rushed for sure, the dialogue felt weird and unnatural to me. Her growing and losing the slave crest is both related to her becoming a hero. The power of the vassal katana. Every time that the top part of the sword glowed something happened to her. Whether it was rapidly growing or losing the slave crest. |
KilluanJun 13, 2022 9:13 PM
| Sure felt rushed. On the other hand it's still better than getting "oh he is so evil" scenes with Kyo torturing Raphtalia. Seriously, he is such a shitty villain who clearly was made simply to be hated, that having even more of that hate forced down my throat would be unbearable. At least now situation is clear and they can go kick his ass while talking about friendship power etc. Btw where did those crystals come from...? Why is nobody commenting on that? >.> |
Well then, looks like thing went from bad to better for Raphtalia, not only was she able to escape with other heroes in that world, she becomes the new sword hero and she gets reunited with Naofumi... This is probably the only fanservice we can get out of Raphtahila. |
This is probabaly the only fanservice we get to see of Raphtahlia. Well then looks like things were going good for Raphtahila, she not only escapes with the other heroes, but also becomes a sword hero and gets reunited with Naofumi. |
Yveltal1612 said: After the first 6 boring episodes I was finally starting to enjoy the show again with episodes 7-9 and now comes episode 10 and is ruining it again... First thing to notice was the drop in animation quality, then all the rule breaking/bending. Now I don't know the source material, but even so a lot of this doesn't make much sense. While not stated outright in the anime, it seems that in both worlds cardinal weapons are given to people who were transported there from japan (the 4 heroes in world 1 and kizuna in world 2) and Vassal weapons are given to people who are native to world 2 (L'arc, Glass, Therese, Kyo). Then why does the Katana weapon go to Raphtalia? She is from W1. Is she now a W2 hero? Does she get the W2 heroes teleportation ability? Does she have to fight against Naofumi in the end? Although by how hard the anime wants to make L'arc, Glass, Therese and Kizuna likable I doubt they will even have to fight and so many more questions. Vassal weapons are established to not be able to harm humans. So why can the Katana weapon kill humans? Raphtalia ages with her level, fine (although that is already butchered and ignored in Season 1). Then why does she suddenly grow back to her late teens/early twenties after the Katana glows once? Is it because we see her naked a few seconds later and the creators didn't want to have to draw her naked in her child form and decided, fuck it we already don't stick to her aging rule so let's ignore it once more and make her old again? Speaking of which why do we even need to see her naked and why is that scene so dragged out, is it to desperately try to get people to watch the show again after those boring first 6 episodes which annihilated probably a lot of the viewer-base? It is common knowledge in W2 that Vassal weapons are choosing their wielder and that they cannot be separated anymore once making contact. Then why do people believe Kazuki when he says Raphtalia stole the weapon from him? They should know that's a lie and accept her as the rightful owner right away. - Vassal Weapons choose their owner, and they don't care who they are and where they're from. - Therese doesn't have a vassal weapon. - Raphtalia and Naofumi aren't enemies. The anime cut out too many scenes, but basically they don't know what the Vassal Weapon's are for. L'Arch's country thinks they are supposed to kill heroes in other worlds but they don't really have proof. - Vassal weapons can hurt people. Kizuna is a cardinal weapon hero and she can't hurt people, only beasts. - The anime screwed up Raphtalia's growing up, don't try to find logic in it. The studio wanted to keep her a kid until the last possible minute. Naked Raphtalia is a fan service scene by the studio to increase views. - Raphtalia and gang are wanted fugitives in that country that's the main reason the guards are chasing them. Also if someone from a different country would be the next owner of the katana weapon it would upset the balance of power between countries. So there's a political reason behind it too. |
| So much for being called a genius shouting like that towards the end lmao. |
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| Ah yes our favorite frienemies are here too! So again what is Kyo's end game in all these? And Kazuki's got something in his arse for Kyo too, I thought they were working together or perhaps cooperating for the time being. Is Kazuki really from this world or does he not understand that the katana chooses it's bearer, or maybe he'll force it somehow in his mind? I've got a nagging feeling it will be her when they turned up in the shrine, ah well. |
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| Now that was a pleasant surprise. Can she take the katana back with her to the other world? |
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| I just dont think i can finish this shit. Everyone talks about the turtle arc being bad, i found it better then the second half that screws every thing up for wifufags.i like raphtalia but she was never meant to be the focus and robbed the story progression and made inconsistencies. Im dropping it now. 4/10 |
evilchrisJul 2, 2022 4:41 AM
| Ngl kinda wanted more Raphtalia action but overall it was nice episode. |
| Raphtalia is still loyal even though the seal has already gone. |
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| Honestly this episode just pissed me off. Like why are you tripping every few steps bitch? You've been walking and running literally your entire damn life! Like a sandal breaking sure maybe I can understand. But then you keep tripping barefoot? smh... In general this season's made me so pissed off. Like everyone just standing there like idiot statues when Filo's clearly right in front of them being abused. How stupid of a gimmick it was to just randomly separate them, and prevent Raphtalia from teleporting and be yeeted back to level 1. Not to mention taking Raphtalia and Filo away leaving just Rishia who I hate with a seething passion. Literally every scene she's in annoys me and she's in most of them this season. And now they make Raphtalia a cardinal weapon wielder of another world which inherently makes her an enemy of the shield hero and his entire world whether any of them want that or not. Just so they can jab as later no doubt when one world wins or loses. Because if the Shield Hero wins chances are that means Raphtalia's gonna die. Also he won't be able to get exp from her in the party anymore since she's another hero now. |
| Okay I'm having trouble with the anime BS going on in this series. Why would you keep all of your strongest enemies (the three vassals) locked up in the same prison cell? It's just asking them to break out. Also why are the enemy vassals so happy to help out all of a sudden. What happened to good old fashioned ruthlessness like Btooom! This series could do with a bit more edginess. Everyone's way too happy to get on-side. Also what use is that prison of exhaustion if people can break out so easily? |
Zei33Aug 6, 2022 7:02 AM
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| W-wait what that's it? In like 2 episodes Naofumi and Raphtalia are already re-united? I thought Kyo was gonna experiment on her and maybe do some brainwashing on her to draw the story out longer, making it more suspenseful therefore being able to give the main characters more development (maybe have Naofumi master some of his important shields) and make me care more about Naofumi and Raphtalia's reunion/ characters? But instead in two episodes Raphtalia struck the lottery by having the same cell as L'arc and his party and they seem to leisurely escape Kyo's prison, Raphtalia becomes the Katana hero and gets a power boost before reuniting with Naofumi because the other bad guy forgot how to count to 3 evil tigers? I also find it funny the studio really sugar coat L'arc and Glass especially with these nice scenes, almost trying to make you forget that in s1 Glass especially was out to kill Naofumi and quite literally end their world by helping the waves. As much as Raphtalia becoming the Katana hero was the most foreseeable thing this ep, at least the outfit they gave her actually looked really good on her and made the fight scenes a tad bit better. |
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