Dead Dead Demons Dededede Destruction (ONA) Episode 17 Discussion

@yhagni what's the usa side of the ending? tell me

@Alkimia That's due to the timelines and how they work. It's complex but I consider basically what I wanted form Bioshock Infinite if you have played that game before.

I am not too upset at this as they made clear there are different timelines.

@MasterHavik Oh no yeah I get that it's a different timeline and all, I'm just sad they didn't end up being together in this timeline like in the last one

I gave this an 8/10 because I liked it overall. The killing of the aliens or 'invaders' really troubled me (indicating it was well done). However, I wish they spent one or two more episodes after the mother ship nuked itself. Luckily, I saw the other post where someone recommended watching episode 0 before the finale and since I hadn't watched it before, I wasn't too confused. But the disappearance of Kadode and Oran in the main timeline and the implication that they were in the mechs (and thereby were killed) was done poorly. Throughout the show there was little indication that these girls could pilot the mechs. At least in the alternate timeline that the father was sent to they should have shown that these girls were in some job where they were piloting these mechas or something showing similar. Not bad but still rushed.

This was a nice episode overall and had a nice ending, not good enough to make me go crazy but good enough to enjoy it, it was a bit weird how this suddenly turned into a mecha anime though, at least the animation was nice when the robots were fighting.

While the ending was nice it was a bit fucked up too, so apparently that other worldline is fucked, and when they enter the time machine thingie, their consciousness or whatever travels to the past, but what about the present? what happens to the person who enters the time machine? will they disappear or do they keep living in the present in their fucked up worldline?

Overall, it's a nice anime and it was quite an enjoyable experience, not the best thing ever but definitely not the worst, I didn't like a couple of things but it didn't detract from my enjoyment, this is quality stuff and the animation was superb, even that short action scene with the robots fighting was nice, it's not like it got ruined with shitty animation or anything, the animation was pretty good in this anime the whole time so this anime gets some points because of it, I praise consistency when it comes to animation and this anime didn't disappoint on that part. I will end my comment and give this anime a rating of:

9/10

It ended and my main thought was, "What was it all for?"
All those connections, the progress, the plot.
Poof just pointless.

Not the greatest ending.... but at least not dissapointing like 75% of series nowadays... I liked it.

In General a 9.9/10.0 series for me.

Hope to see more of DeDeDeDe universe and more from Inio Asano.

@c4rpet5

If the little scout alien survives, he tells the invaders that earth sucks. However, oran couldnt stand that timeline because kadode dies in it. This time kadode lives and dad handles the scout alien.

I haven't read the manga but if it had the same ending as the anime then I can imagine that the author had been given a notice to finish the manga in a few chapters instead of continuing with the story arc he had been building up until then. It was not a coincidence that Kadode complained in the last episode about that science-fiction stories didn't sell nowadays.

I haven't read the manga but if it had the same ending as the anime then I can imagine that the author had been given a notice to finish the manga in a few chapters instead of continuing with the story arc he had been building up until then. It was not a coincidence that Kadode complained in the last episode about that science-fiction stories didn't sell nowadays.

so is this Doraemon parody?

@saikyozero More like a homage.

I enjoyed the ending, I didn't have any interest in seeing more of the fucked up world, the ending of ep 16 completely satisfied me. Ouran and Kadode spent their remaining time together helping others while doing something they love, likely with high-spirits, and died side by side. That'd be a satisfying fate for them in such a doomed timeline on its own, and the implication that they're were able to interact with the new timeline somehow even gives us some hope that they're okay after all. The ones in the new timeline aren't "our" Ouran and Kadode, but we see how Ouran and Kadode's friendship can change the world for the better, resulting in the best timeline (as long as they become friends before meeting an invader lol).

This series was great! In retrospect I loved the lead-up to the explosion because it was engaging to see how mundane humanity's response to the situation was. I'm a sucker for stories about friendship, and love the theme about the dramatic impact a friend can make on your world. I checked out the final chapter out of interest and the Isobeyan manga really contextualizes it all.

Though I'm left with many questions on things I'm sure were meant to be ambiguous, like if there's a connection to these new Fujin and Invaders, which would explain they're extremely pacifistic nature we all complained about. Also, I have yet to see anyone mention the room with the hands poking the Earth we see when the father is "shifting". That has some insane implications! Are asterisks the results of the actions of shifters?

I regret watching episode 17, trash retcon that makes the entire journey meaningless, inio really hates his readers

It started off very interesting at first but quickly falls off once I realized how dumb the aliens and evil the humans are. From Death Note, Doraemon, Steins Gate, Evangelion, Gundam?, the show has all of these elements in the story. But all of that turns into a huge mess of a scifi that feels rather gimmicky at best. The best part of the show is probably the relationship between Oran and Kadode and also the circle friends. But all of that are simply ruined by constant alien genocide and disjointed Pov storytelling which kind of ruining the flow of the story even though it's supposed to be chronological. I wonder how faithful is this adaptation compared to the manga and how much material are being skimmed over for the adaptation.