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| Masoo is getting weak. Kuchiba. Dat stab. Ouni get slashed and stabbed. Nibi saves him. Dat tag team stab. Nibi got shot. Dem stabs. He's dead. Ouni...has awoken. Dat head slice. Nibi is gone. A new stage? Dem suicides. So happy Ginshu didn't die. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| I honestly believe Nibi and Ouni loved each other. Romantically. I loved the scene of them after he died and was moving on, telling him he would be waiting. I knew he was going to die so I was already prepared and I feel like that stopped me from crying but all of the emotion was still there. Ouni had never cried before and I knew Nibi's death would be what broke him. It was a beautiful, bittersweet scene. RIP. Also RIP to Headpat Dude. I really liked him. |
Kodomo_R said: This anime is trying too hard to make me feel something for characters who were barely established.... Yeah i keep having that feeling as well tho its still somewhat sad due to the atmosphere setting etc but due to lack of chara development it doesnt make me shed tears |
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| Let's talk about how much I cried when Nibi died. I love how emotional I become when I'm watching this anime. Even when it's Ouni's time to shine and even if he is that type of character who never dies I can't stop worrying about him. That's good. |
| Nibi is gone, and it hurt Ouni so much, that it awakened his true power. He used thymia in the Nous's lair, which nobody has done before. The ship has sunk, and the heroes return home, but not without having to deal with the many losses. |
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| "I didn't want to be left behind. And now I'm the one leaving you behind" Oh man that was sad...rip Nibi Even though his death was kind of predictable, he really didn't deserve a dirty stab from the back, well at least Ouni went on a rampage for him. Don't think Chakuro should trust the mysterious shellobject so easily from a shady slimy Nous that worked for the empire after being asked to sacrifice something for it (even if the question was just to test his character) |
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| Rip that one random dude. He wont be missed. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Really trippy episode :O I wonder if Chakuro takes the shell to Ema, she'll tell him all the secrets (after all, she said she'd tell him if he made it back alive!) I wanna know why the people of the Mud Whale die so young, and how Ouni could use Thymia even in the presence of a Nous Although I was a little frustrated in this episode, like, why did Ouni, when he went super crazy and started slaughtering everyone with Thymia, leave Araphne alive and instead go after the random soldiers?? And also, just like last episode, the jester soldiers easily outnumbered/could have overpowered the remaining Mud Whale peeps in that hallway, so why were so many of them standing around doing nothing?? I guess maybe they need to be ordered to do something but...then why wouldn't Araphne or Pagoni order them around? |
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| there was something up about ouni and nibi. also... kills off nibi for a plot device and then brings back ryodari from the dead (previews?) for no apparent reason. what the f*ck is wrong wi |
| Ouni turned out to be every bit the badass he's always seemed to be. Skylos's nous was unexpectedly magnanimous, for a creature that was about to die. Glad that Nibi and Ouni took out that bald eye-patched bastard and the mission was accomplished, though they all paid the price. |
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| Chakuro is basically a side character, entire episode he only calling his friends name and do nothing, I don't understand why he stop running and just stood in the entrance like that why don't he goes stab that thing or whatever it's and maybe nibi will not die like that and like the most Mc things he got unknown power while do nothing, ouni is more like the proper mc in this anime rather then him |
Reply to Revvie-chan
I'm going leave out the "some random supporting character died in a cliche way just for the sake of cool (and development.)" Classic shounen (except, MAL doesn't tag this as such.)
But that ending is just plain stupid.
Not just emotionally bcs Chakuro is such a plain character etc etc etc
but just... like that interaction with the warship's nous is just meaningless.
Now the logic behind the antagonists of this series is never strong, in the first place. But as that stuff the nous gives to Chakuro at the end of the episode seems to be a very important plot point, you would want a strong reason behind it. The culmination of everything so far... for me, it failed to bring Chakuro's standpoint that "their memories are real thus important."
The script isn't tempting enough,
The direction is synchronized on the wrong way, as the scene shows a wonderful image (Lykos' illusion,) but the sound direction use a grave vibe that basically tells you it's a lie.
Knowing that everyone who are doing this are pros with great titles under their belt (thus they're not fools,) it seems that the director wanted to force into us a view that what the nous was offering is bad, instead of leaving us to decide for it ourselves (aka they blatantly tells us that it's a test, thus spoiling it for us.) Depending on the plot, it might work, but in this kind of story where there are 2 ideologies in motion, comparing both in a fair sense so that we can decide for ouselves is important, imo. Kujira no Kora... the plot tried (else the scene wouldn't have existed) but the direction failed hard on this, main most important part.
But that ending is just plain stupid.
Not just emotionally bcs Chakuro is such a plain character etc etc etc
but just... like that interaction with the warship's nous is just meaningless.
Now the logic behind the antagonists of this series is never strong, in the first place. But as that stuff the nous gives to Chakuro at the end of the episode seems to be a very important plot point, you would want a strong reason behind it. The culmination of everything so far... for me, it failed to bring Chakuro's standpoint that "their memories are real thus important."
The script isn't tempting enough,
The direction is synchronized on the wrong way, as the scene shows a wonderful image (Lykos' illusion,) but the sound direction use a grave vibe that basically tells you it's a lie.
Knowing that everyone who are doing this are pros with great titles under their belt (thus they're not fools,) it seems that the director wanted to force into us a view that what the nous was offering is bad, instead of leaving us to decide for it ourselves (aka they blatantly tells us that it's a test, thus spoiling it for us.) Depending on the plot, it might work, but in this kind of story where there are 2 ideologies in motion, comparing both in a fair sense so that we can decide for ouselves is important, imo. Kujira no Kora... the plot tried (else the scene wouldn't have existed) but the direction failed hard on this, main most important part.
| @Revvie-chan Because it's not a Shounen. It's a Shoujo. |
| I think people take it too literally. The lack of emotions represents lack of empathy. Remember, the enemy sees Chakuro and his people as rats or toys (in the case of Pinkie). They don't view them as people, so they have no empathy or care for them. Desensitized to war and believing the propaganda of colonization. What's the best way to convince the people of your country that genocide and colonization are necessary? Feed them propaganda. Make them see the others as less than humans (rats and playthings). Tell them that you are the great country and it's your responsibility to save people from their barbaric selves. In the case of our cast, they're saving them from their emotions. |
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@Revvie-chan Because it's not a Shounen. It's a Shoujo.
| @LuxuriousHeart yeah, after which I changed my mind regarding what I said about the classification. still didn't change about what I think about the episode, tho. damn this anime was years ago. I don't think I still even kept it in my list, actually lol |
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