A third/half of Frieren isn't really that good?

Jun 11, 8:40 AM

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I'm not sure if I get the critique if that is how an adventure story functions. It seems more like a you problem than an issue with the story.
Comparing vigilantes is strange since the story/plot is entirely different. In vigilantes, they are meant to be in a similar area. While in Frieren, they are moving from place to place. Also, the used condom example seems to be presenting a loaded example to prove a point. Someone can easily say it was a "once-in-a-lifetime experience". Since you experience that thing once it makes it more special.
To improve your critique, you should point to the absence of an important element in the story. For example, do the extra characters do nothing for the story? Were their arcs unexplored? Was there a goal/conflict?

Jun 11, 9:50 AM

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it's 10/10. the whole point of the show is to re-live her journey with himmel. Even if you travel in real life....... you make some friends along the way (like stark and the priest) and others are really just there. so not really a valid reason to rate it this way.

Jun 11, 11:24 AM

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deepndy

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If old man voll is just a random disposable character, then the people didn't understood the show.

Jun 11, 11:32 AM

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So you didnt like that there were too many unimportant side characters without real depth and story purpose... that's honestly fine
Now imagine that for 1000 years, that's what Frieren experiences
She has seen WAY more of those random villagers while travelling the world than we do on screen so its really just day-to-day life for her
And she DOES remember the important ones like the restaurant owner promising the food wont change - she liked it, and hoped it wouldn't be different - was important
Of course 99% of random people are not gonna have much impact on this huge of a lifespan

Jun 11, 12:47 PM

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So you didnt like that there were too many unimportant side characters without real depth and story purpose... that's honestly fine
Now imagine that for 1000 years, that's what Frieren experiences
She has seen WAY more of those random villagers while travelling the world than we do on screen so its really just day-to-day life for her
And she DOES remember the important ones like the restaurant owner promising the food wont change - she liked it, and hoped it wouldn't be different - was important
Of course 99% of random people are not gonna have much impact on this huge of a lifespan

nonik34 said:
Now imagine that for 1000 years, that's what Frieren experiences

False, most of those were spent lone in a shack in the woods.
Also, not really an argument, here's an excerpt from my Turn A Gundam review:

Turn A is "realistic" in the worst sense of the word, because believe me when I say it: You don't want your art to be realistic, you really want it to be romantic.
Arma 3 is a realistic war game: Most of the time you'll be shooting (And missing) at small brown smudges in the distance, nothing will happen for a couple minutes, then you get shot out of nowhere and die. Realistic? Totally! Fun? No!

Jun 11, 3:01 PM

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It's not as good as people say!! I don't know how people keep gaslighting themselves in saying this is the greatest masterpiece ever

Jun 11, 7:32 PM

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The expectations for this show are too high simply because of how much people glaze it up, but I agree it does have issues when it transitions from the Aura episode and into a battle shounen adventure.

Jun 11, 8:49 PM

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Eh, the main three (or four - thought the priest guy would be permanent) were enough for me when they got the attention they needed. Really there were at least six main characters if you count the flashbacks with Frieren's original party. That's plenty. Many, if not most, of the anime I enjoy the most have six or fewer characters getting the vast majority of the attention. I don't understand why the side characters would need to have more focus in this kind of show. It just means less time for the ones that actually matter, and none of the new introductions felt particularly inventive or deep to me. The best one was probably the lady that cut stuff, I guess? Because she seemed kinda unhinged in a new way, but none of them felt like they really added much to the "world building" in a good way to me. The only good additions to the themes/world of the show in the latter half were Frieren's teacher (in flashbacks that didn't need the new side characters) and the older elf that didn't like Frieren's philosophy.

The rest just added there being elemental spells, I guess? Also added a creature that is implied to have unlimited power as long as it's creating copies? The latter actually feels like a step backward in world building, tbh, because why even set up limits by mentioning mana, etc. if there are monster-of-the-week side creatures that can casually break them? (The answer is, of course, the classic "to have a cool fight," which I didn't appreciate in DBS or late Shippuden, and didn't enjoy here either. IMO these shows are at their best when they have a sense of being grounded.)

I really didn't appreciate the mage exam arc overall. It just felt like it was copying Naruto and getting really away from the main plot/the narrative structure that made the show more unique in the first half.

SciTailsJun 11, 9:09 PM

Jun 11, 10:40 PM

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I think the anime community really needs to understand that “I didn’t like this” ≠ this anime is objectively bad. You can definitely have the opinion, which is fair. But it doesn’t extend to anything except to subjectivity.

The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10

Jun 12, 1:02 AM

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That one is your worse take so far. It seem like you do it voluntarily so I won't get to far but those villagers that you call interchangeable just mean you didn't pay attention.

They must be the new baiter in town or something.

No way someone can actually be this pedantic over every topic they make lmfao.

Aug 11, 2:45 AM

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Sep 7, 3:48 AM

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Hard agree. It's a good anime, but still feels overrated for me. The main arc is great, but the slow paced episodes are meh (I do enjoy slow-paced episodes, like Hyouka when the characters are only talking about simple 2 sentences announcement for a full episode, but I don't feel anything like that with Frieren).

The characterization is just good, but nothing special. The "fight" aren't that special either for a shonen anime. It's weird that it sits as #1 anime in MAL, yet nothing feels "masterpiece" from it. It's the embodiment "Jack of all trades, master of none"

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Sep 8, 8:17 PM

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Well, people have their opinions I guess. However, my major problem with Frieren is that it tries to start off as a unique shonen that totally fumbles right at the beginning. The second half involving the mage exam was boring. I don't even know how it's possible for an anime to have boring fights despite having good animation. The fact that there are new threads that constantly keep complaining about Frieren kinda proves that it's overrated. I mean, FMAB never had this problem despite being No 1 for nearly 15 years. 8/10 and that's mainly because of visuals. If it had passable animation it'd be a 5-6/10.

Sep 8, 8:19 PM

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Mate, you are too young and naïve for Frieren.
There is nothing else to say.

@Alexzsandros You can't be young and naive for an anime that is neither complex nor for the elderly. Frieren IS a shonen anime. Even without the demographic, nothing about Frieren screams "not for teens/children". The anime could literally be rated "FAM" and it wouldn't even be a problem.

Sep 8, 8:32 PM

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Well, people have their opinions I guess. However, my major problem with Frieren is that it tries to start off as a unique shonen that totally fumbles right at the beginning. The second half involving the mage exam was boring. I don't even know how it's possible for an anime to have boring fights despite having good animation. The fact that there are new threads that constantly keep complaining about Frieren kinda proves that it's overrated. I mean, FMAB never had this problem despite being No 1 for nearly 15 years. 8/10 and that's mainly because of visuals. If it had passable animation it'd be a 5-6/10.

@The_Spectre_01

Yet you have Frieren in your favorites.

Sep 8, 9:14 PM

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@The_Spectre_01

Yet you have Frieren in your favorites.

@intiharr That's cause I lost a dumb bet. Really don't wanna talk about it. That aside it's not like I hate the show. It just isn't unique enough neither does it have a gripping plot and yet people/new gen act like it's the best anime in existence when it's obviously not.

Sep 8, 9:15 PM

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@intiharr That's cause I lost a dumb bet. Really don't wanna talk about it. That aside it's not like I hate the show. It just isn't unique enough neither does it have a gripping plot and yet people/new gen act like it's the best anime in existence when it's obviously not.

@The_Spectre_01

That's certainly one of the more original excuses I have heard in a while.

And there is no best anime in existence, ever.

Sep 8, 9:50 PM

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@The_Spectre_01

That's certainly one of the more original excuses I have heard in a while.

And there is no best anime in existence, ever.

@intiharr Why? Cuz I don't like Frieren enough for it to be part of my favorites? Well, you do you. This wasn't even part of the main discussion anyway.
Seeing as tastes differ, I agree that there's no best anime in existence, but the problem here is that Frieren fans act like it is in fact, the best anime in existence. Their reasoning? It's no 1 on MAL. That's it. Literally nothing else. I mean, appeal and animation actually contributes to its high rating but I guess this only applies to anime like Solo Leveling because... agenda.

Sep 9, 5:26 AM

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The_Spectre_01 said:
@intiharr Why? Cuz I don't like Frieren enough for it to be part of my favorites? Well, you do you. This wasn't even part of the main discussion anyway.
Seeing as tastes differ, I agree that there's no best anime in existence, but the problem here is that Frieren fans act like it is in fact, the best anime in existence. Their reasoning? It's no 1 on MAL. That's it. Literally nothing else. I mean, appeal and animation actually contributes to its high rating but I guess this only applies to anime like Solo Leveling because... agenda.

Couldn't care less.
(P.S. I quoted the wrong comment, but my point still stands.)

AlexzsandrosSep 9, 5:31 AM

Sep 9, 6:12 AM

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The_Spectre_01 said:
@intiharr Why? Cuz I don't like Frieren enough for it to be part of my favorites? Well, you do you. This wasn't even part of the main discussion anyway.
Seeing as tastes differ, I agree that there's no best anime in existence, but the problem here is that Frieren fans act like it is in fact, the best anime in existence. Their reasoning? It's no 1 on MAL. That's it. Literally nothing else. I mean, appeal and animation actually contributes to its high rating but I guess this only applies to anime like Solo Leveling because... agenda.

Couldn't care less.
(P.S. I quoted the wrong comment, but my point still stands.)

@Alexzsandros Couldn't care less about a nothing burger reply either.

Sep 9, 6:27 AM

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The_Spectre_01 said:
@Alexzsandros Couldn't care less about a nothing burger reply either.

I don't want a wasteful conversation, so good riddance.

Sep 9, 7:33 AM

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The_Spectre_01 said:
@Alexzsandros Couldn't care less about a nothing burger reply either.

I don't want a wasteful conversation, so good riddance.

@Alexzsandros If you don't want a wasteful conversation, I see no reason why you replied to a comment that wasn't even aimed at you.

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