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Jun 25, 2020 11:36 AM
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Since we're doing this psychological theme, I want to talk about one of the best psychological horror shows out there, which is Shiki. While it isn't actual categorized as psychological on MAL, it definitely should be. Throughout the whole show and especially in the last few episodes it does a very good job getting into your head and scaring you with its ideas about human nature. It is pretty slow, though, but it is definitely worth getting to the end.

Also if you're planning on watching it make sure you watch the 2 special episodes which chronologically take place in between some of the actual episodes. imo they are some of the best episodes in the entire show.
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Jun 25, 2020 4:04 PM
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The show sounds intriguing! I’ll definitely check it out later. I’ll put it on my ptw for now. Do you know the exact episodes that the specials should be watched between?
Enjoy!
Jun 25, 2020 4:23 PM
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siuol_sward said:
The show sounds intriguing! I’ll definitely check it out later. I’ll put it on my ptw for now. Do you know the exact episodes that the specials should be watched between?

I'm glad you think it sounds cool. You'll just have to get through the weird character designs and slow pacing but like I said it's worth it!

Anyways for the special episodes the first one is called "20.5" and it goes right after episode 20. The second is "21.5" and it goes after episode 21. I watched both of them after I finished the series because I didn't know they existed but they still worked pretty well. However I've heard it's better to watch them in the actual order
Jun 26, 2020 10:40 AM
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I plan to watch shiki
Jun 26, 2020 12:38 PM
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I agree, Shiki is pretty cool. *thumbs up*

It's a bit iffy, but I kinda agree it should have the Psychological tag. MAL defines psychological anime as "when two or more characters prey each others' minds, either by playing deceptive games with the other or by merely trying to demolish the other's mental state" (check definitions out here) and it can be argued that some of the humans vs. vampires games going on would fit that parameter. It at least fits it better than a chunk of shows actually in the Psychological tag.

Long story short, genre tagging is tricky and everybody should watch Shiki, its a good show xD
Jun 26, 2020 12:55 PM
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I agree, Shiki is pretty cool. *thumbs up*

It's a bit iffy, but I kinda agree it should have the Psychological tag. MAL defines psychological anime as "when two or more characters prey each others' minds, either by playing deceptive games with the other or by merely trying to demolish the other's mental state" (check definitions out here) and it can be argued that some of the humans vs. vampires games going on would fit that parameter. It at least fits it better than a chunk of shows actually in the Psychological tag.

Long story short, genre tagging is tricky and everybody should watch Shiki, its a good show xD

Ah, I didnt know that was how they defined "psychological."
Jun 26, 2020 8:33 PM
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I love Shiki so much! Thank you for mentioning it :)
I hear that people are put off by it's Art Style, but imo, that's one of the great things about it!
The two episodes you mentioned should definitely be watched with the rest of the series, as it makes it that bit more interesting
The soundtracks are amazing too! (tbh, I just love everything about Shiki XD)
Jun 28, 2020 6:36 PM
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I watched Shiki a long while ago and I remember it was good. I feel like nowadays we are lacking in the horror anime department, so I also recommend you watch the show if you’re into the genre.
Jun 29, 2020 12:49 PM
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I have always had an interesting relationship with Shiki. It was one of the very first anime I ever watched, and at this point I've probably seen it a good two or three times.

I feel like the show has some very interesting ideas that are somewhat executed well, however lacking in others. The use of Cain and Abel was very interesting, something I hardly see anime ever do. Christian symbolism in anime is always welcome.

I think the show fails the most with its characters. The inflated cast detriments my investment every time I watch it, as there are just so many characters to keep track of.

On the other hand, I think this show has some of the most unique sense of style and music I have ever seen in anime. While this show's art style is initially off-putting, I think some of the animation in various scenes (for example the scene where Megumi visits the mansion in the first episode) is so unique to where it really helps with the disturbing tone of the show. It's a part of the show I always find myself coming back to.

Alongside that is the soundtrack, which is by far the show's strongest aspect for me. Just go and listen to some of the tracks on their own, they're all so good. Each one caters to a specific feeling, whether it be the stinging nostalgia of Youth, the petrifying sense of danger of Silent Night, or the dripping grief of SHI-KI. They fit so perfectly with this show, and I'm so happy I know it exists.

Anyways I have a soft-spot in my heart for this show and thanks for listening to my TED Talk lol

Jul 4, 2020 7:04 PM

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Shiki is, in fact, pretty cool. I suspect I'm going to be thinking about this show for a while. I'm surprised it's not tagged as psychological, I'd argue it fits the current definition pretty well and it certainly got into my head. I watched the Dub, so anything I'm about to discuss related to writing is from that perspective, and is only a portion of my thoughts so if you'd like to discuss the show further feel free to message me!


Right from episode one it proves it's something worth watching, and delivers on all the themes it introduces there pretty well! Some ideas get introduced later and fall by the wayside, the art can has some low points, but what the show does do with its music, horrific imagery, and writing is fantastic! The scene where Megumi visits the mansion in the first episode that @Criscosandwich mentioned in particular sold me on the show. The music throughout does a fantastic job in basically whatever it tries to do, it suits the show super well and makes especially all the horror scenes extra tense! That first opening is also one of my favorite OP's now. It was a rare case where I actually watched it every episode

Episodes 20.5 and 21.5 are definitely important! They're straight up the most horrific episodes in Shiki, and really help set the stage for the ending. I'm honestly surprised they aren't just normal episodes. Without them we wouldn't know


Where I think the show really shines though, is in its themes of understanding and evil. Whether or not characters listen to and understand each other determines so much of the casts relationships, and if they succeed or not. Two scenes highlight this really well. The first is in episode 7,
The other scene comes in episode **,
The show is full of moments like these, I could spend all day listing them off. They're used to especially good effect in the scenes involving Muroi, Ozaki, and Sunako.

I mentioned one of the show's themes is evil as well.
Jul 5, 2020 1:11 PM

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Cccel said:
Shiki is, in fact, pretty cool. I suspect I'm going to be thinking about this show for a while. I'm surprised it's not tagged as psychological, I'd argue it fits the current definition pretty well and it certainly got into my head. I watched the Dub, so anything I'm about to discuss related to writing is from that perspective, and is only a portion of my thoughts so if you'd like to discuss the show further feel free to message me!


Right from episode one it proves it's something worth watching, and delivers on all the themes it introduces there pretty well! Some ideas get introduced later and fall by the wayside, the art can has some low points, but what the show does do with its music, horrific imagery, and writing is fantastic! The scene where Megumi visits the mansion in the first episode that @Criscosandwich mentioned in particular sold me on the show. The music throughout does a fantastic job in basically whatever it tries to do, it suits the show super well and makes especially all the horror scenes extra tense! That first opening is also one of my favorite OP's now. It was a rare case where I actually watched it every episode

Episodes 20.5 and 21.5 are definitely important! They're straight up the most horrific episodes in Shiki, and really help set the stage for the ending. I'm honestly surprised they aren't just normal episodes. Without them we wouldn't know


Where I think the show really shines though, is in its themes of understanding and evil. Whether or not characters listen to and understand each other determines so much of the casts relationships, and if they succeed or not. Two scenes highlight this really well. The first is in episode 7,
The other scene comes in episode **,
The show is full of moments like these, I could spend all day listing them off. They're used to especially good effect in the scenes involving Muroi, Ozaki, and Sunako.

I mentioned one of the show's themes is evil as well.

I definitely agree with everything you said. Also the question of whether Sunako (and the rest of the shiki) are actually evil is very interesting.

I believe that they aren’t evil, since all the shiki attack humans only because they need to feed on them to survive. They aren’t killing people with malicious intent; they only want to keep living. However since the existence of the shiki is inherently bad for humans, the shiki need to be stopped.

It’s like a criminal killing people for money. The criminal isn’t killing just for fun, he’s killing so he can feed himself and maybe his family. His intentions aren’t bad, however he is still killing people.
Jul 5, 2020 7:20 PM

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It's just all spoilers

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