Shibou Yuugi de Meshi wo Kuu. Episode 7 Discussion

@mikasareads The floor is electrocuted, You can see cotton there, In LN it was explained that three people had died there before mishiro woke up, Its shown here and then she took charge as the leader, The shoes are electric proof and if u try to cross without them you get shot. Riko died of electrocution...

@FandomLasts4ever I know what you mean it tries to be artistic thats good and all, and ppl will be mad if I say it but you need to know the proper balance between artistic and giving room for people to understand sh!t. I also read LN and was like okie they skipped a lot for the sake of making yukki be mysterious and sh!t. I wanted to see the one player that survived after the game for a month eating grass and then ultimately dying, but that was skipped but stupid orange girl from the first chapter of this arcgot adapted...

@Rexnihilo We got to see Azuma die though, We see her corpse as mishiro is waking to a tied up Yukki, Riko left Yukki alive for mishiro...

@aldra77 Nah, Its just that mishiro has been grinding and playing more than Yukki

@RealNath Riko didnt get shot, Yuki pushed Riko and Riko got electrocuted... The guns are there for players who try to cross to exit without wearing the shoes from the lockers...

@uselessDM Spoiler: She can get an prosthetic like mishiro got of her arm and Riko got o fall of her limbs giving her super human strength...

@MenchiK1 Light Novel is superior to both adaptions, Characters are better drawn out

@Phantom_373 Candle Woods is the Gold D. Roger of Shiboyugi, Every previous game is pre Candle Wood And Every game after that is post Candle Wood...

@RobertBobert I know, You know

@Ranma-Kun Yuki took Mishiro's tag which Riko was holding on to while waiting for her after qriko died, But its more likely that Yukki just yanked Rikos shoes and wore them herself...

Mishiro's death felt quite cheap but then again there's no way for Yuuki to escape her unless she killed her in that situation. Odds are just horribly stacked against her due to her own oversight. As for Mishiro's character, i didn't realize it til the end how badly she desired that "invincible" Yuuki in her mind and couldn't bring herself to kill the "pathetic" Yuuki running for her dear life. So much that she'd rather just get killed by her instead.

I really liked how the showed displayed the "ugly" survival instinct humans have and Yuuki's no exception from that. How would this disastrous game add to her character development tho? Love to see that on the next game and by next I counting a continuation from 30 and not a flashback which likely would be.

Oh my God not my toxic doomed yuri ending that soon?? Why couldn’t Yuki and Mishiro get married instead of fighting each other to the death 😭 it’s a testament to DEEN’s direction that such a brutal and horrific battle somehow felt beautiful and poetic. Mishiro’s words at the end of the episode about wanting to freeze time and savor that moment as for once, she was finally the most beautiful person in the world, really fits with how that scene felt. The direction in this series continues to be world class and adds a layer of storytelling and emotion you rarely see in anime.

My heart breaks for Riko because she was essentially groomed by Mishiro into her perfect killing machine and doll, just to be goaded into essentially killing herself by Yuki there at the end. So in one fell swoop, Mishiro’s entire dream dies. I really wish she could’ve found it in herself to just move on, but I guess only one person could’ve survived the game anyway so they HAD to fight to the death? Just sucks because she would’ve been such a good long term antagonist and foil to Yuki. It felt like they shared something so intimate after that previous game.

Incredible performance from Yuki’s seiyuu during that “I don’t wanna die” scene as well. We’re so used to seeing her composed and badass, but this was a reminder she’s a young girl as well and even though she’s playing these games, she’s not ready to die. Seeing her so vulnerable and afraid was an experience. I feel like this game is going to totally change her going forward and I’m excited to see where we go from here even if I’m disappointed about Mishiro.

Yuuki overwhelmed by a mid-life crisis gets all her soft parts kicked in by two heavily modified metal killing machines. Hopefully she gets her act together and decides whether she stops, or trains harder.

I thought the call from "Kinko's father" before this game was a test by the organization, but the agent's vague response can also be interpreted as it being real.

One more game to go.

Also the sequence of events within this game has me a bit confused, so brb going to read LN.

we lost are only antagonist and there successor in the same episode.

I guess I'd never find out what she didn't realise last episode, I assume it was another way to get into their area.

Mishiro managed to play and beat another 30+ before Yuuki beat 10 or so, how quickly were her games?

I don't get that relevance of Mishiro father making that call 2 episodes ago, if not to help Mishiro get out, maybe it was a setup to get her killed so she wouldn't get revenge?

I expected there to be more of a reason why Mishiro was coughing up blood, was it a final mission? Would likely be the reason why she told Riko to leave without her. But why did she ask Riko to also take her place and kill Yuuki if she lost? She wanted a fair fight, guess it was just pure hatred for Yuuki.

The good thing about this episode was that Yuuki can lose in a fight. Her wanting to live was actually pretty good character development, but I guess she gonna keep playing more games? Also I could listen to that OP and ED throughout the episode. Good to know the agents play a bigger role in these game, but hesitant to believe it actually matters. Almost like they gave up explaining how she lives and just said great RNG with the bullet being blocked by the card.

I can only pray all this stuff actually matters later on.

Idk seeing how it turned out with yuki showing emotions and stuff, this feels like if ayanokoji suddenly had emotions. Can’t say I enjoyed it but we move. It’s not only that but she lived cuz “anime” everything felt so forced, I’ve enjoyed the anime so far but this one was a stinker imo. All that build up for a lack luster ending to the arc.

@Ranma-Kun yeah mb ur right Mishiro did'nt have a tag apparently, unless she hide one from Riko and Yuuki took it later which I don't think is that unlikely but nothing really points to it but let's ignore that for now
ok so when yuuki came back there was a tag on the floor if we ignore why the heck there's a random tag on the ground we can assume yuuki took it when well she was being destroyed by Riko, and eventually it took the bullet shot and saved yuuki
about the guns it's not explained so we can only guess the guns conviniently fired only when Riko tried to approach Yuki , maybe the timer beeps for certain time before shooting or maybe there's a distance limit which when crossed kills everyone nearby. also it's fair to assume once 2 shots are fired the guns go back in cooldown?
another possibility might be that there's a camera we can see so someone might be manually be pulling the strings which ssounds interesting, cause it can also mean someone is helping Yuuki? idk honestly there's not much info to go around
this episode was very awkward for me tbh

Thanks for the explanation, I was wondering how exactly that system works.

Yuuki overwhelmed by a mid-life crisis gets all her soft parts kicked in by two heavily modified metal killing machines. Hopefully she gets her act together and decides whether she stops, or trains harder.

I thought the call from "Kinko's father" before this game was a test by the organization, but the agent's vague response can also be interpreted as it being real.

One more game to go.

Also the sequence of events within this game has me a bit confused, so brb going to read LN.

Yuki lost her fingers but in the end she survived. Those fingers they can add new ones anyways.

It was due to luck but she survived. Mishiro I guess she got her ending that she wanted? Her successor died as well, though. Still also wow didn't expect Mishiro to surprass Yuki in games getting to 40. She really played that many times until she beat Yuki again.

Also with Yuki listing all the names I guess Azuma and the other girls didn't survive huh. We didn't even get to see Azuma die but I guess better not to see.

It was surreal seeing so much emotion from Yuki for the first time. She might play a death game every week or whatever but she doesn't want to die.

Ngl Shiboyugi had kinda been dulling on me a little these last couple episodes but this episode really picked back up, the game itself was really boring it was just your basic old team deathmatch type of stuff compared to the last two it was pretty dull but I think they writer sacrificed a interesting game to fulfil Mishiro/Yuuki's rivalry.

Putting the game itself aside this episode was amazing because it really showed a lot such as how Yuuki really isn't any different from any of the other girls, when she came so close to death at Mishiro's hands she wasn't at first fighting back or even annoyed she was just scared like everyone else in these games are when they reach the end of their road and honestly half way through I was actually routing for Mishiro.

I think Mishiro as a character has been great, the started of self centred and full of herself and at the defeat of Yuuki realised her own flaws and went to meticulously purse the games in the hopes to better herself and reach Yuuki but when she finally sees her in another game it happens to be when Yuuki's playing really subpar and seeing how pissed Mishiro was at that made her really interesting to the point I actually wanted to see her win. But low and behold typical of course Yuuki ended up winning and killing her, unironically wanted Mishiro to win and take the place as the mc but like beyond Yuuki I doubt she'd have a reason to keep going in the games so narratively kinda have to keep Yuuki.

Mishiro got what she wanted in the end and had a beautiful death, especially compared to some of the other girls in this anime. Sad though because she was the only good character besides Yuuki. So I really hope they introduce a new reoccurring character and don't kill her off so quickly, that and I hope the next games more interesting (Don't think I forgot about whatever tf candle woods was I really wanna see what that game was since it seemed to have a reputation among the girls in the earlier game).

I was curious how the exit worked since what would happen if a girl tried to leave without a tag but hell I suppose big gun solved that question. This episode was amazing but I think the author could have done something really special if Mishiro was the one to win this game and continue the anime. But hell lets just fall back on your typical anime stuff I guess.

I can't complain though this animes been amazing regardless, maybe im just sad the only other good characters dead.

wow so mishiro basically allowed her to live by hiving her a fighting chance... it's cool the MC isn't OP

@Phantom_373 This is actually one of the weakest episodes for LN readers.

An explanation for anime onlies (This episode really changes a lot of stuff from manga/LN for the worse):

The game was designed to basically be impossible and unfair for Yuki and favored Mishiro heavily with all her allies, including Riko who was basically a literal terminator with her metal limbs.

Yuki realizes too late that there's 2 baths, and thus 100 total players instead of 50. The baths only connect at the entrance (where Mishiro is camping), and at the open air bath on the opposite side of the building (where Yuki is).

Mishiro sends a team led by Riko to ambush them by scaling the wall between the two sides of the open air bath. This results in one death and all of their keys being stolen. At this point their only options are to stay and die or suicide rush the girls at the entrance and hope for the best.

Yuki, Azuma, and a few others volunteer to start running to the entrance but get intercepted by Mishiro and her lackeys, who trip and drown everyone but Yuki. Mishiro and Yuki have their final showdown, which ends with Yuki stabbing Mishiro through the neck.

At the entrance, Yuki finds Riko waiting. They have a brief conversation and then a fight where Yuki just gets bodied because Riko has prosthetic metal limbs that easily break Yuki's arms. Keep in mind Yuki's right leg is also injured from previous altercation (she never gets "captured" by Riko like it's implied at end of episode 6 or beginning of episode 7)

In a last ditch effort, Yuki puts on the rubber shoes from an already unlocked locker to cross the electrified floor (the entrance mentioned earlier and it's the place you're asking about with the guns and electrified floor), and Riko pursues her on all fours wearing shoes on her hands and feet. Yuki kicks up a corpse that had been shot and electrified earlier for trying to leave without the right shoes, and it makes contact with Riko and the floor, allowing current to pass through her body and kill her, which is especially effective due to her metal limbs.

Yuki then leaves the building, but without three of her fingers, which fell off and got zapped while she was fighting Riko, so now Yuki has to get prosthetic fingers before her next game. The conversation Yuki has with her agent implies that her late start was a consequence of accidentally swallowing the transmitter from Kinko's dad, since it had to be removed first.

The anime changed/cut a good bit of this, especially the fight with Riko. They also cut a lot of exposition with Yuki's frustration at Mishiro having overcome the wall of thirty and reaching 40 games while Mishiro is furious about Yuki's terrible game. She was pissed at how vulnerable Yuki was and unwilling to kill her b/c she wanted to face off against the invincible superhuman Yuki, but it was nowhere near as merciful as in the anime where there were so many chances to just off Yuki.

@Phantom_373 This is actually one of the weakest episodes for LN readers.

An explanation for anime onlies (This episode really changes a lot of stuff from manga/LN for the worse):

The game was designed to basically be impossible and unfair for Yuki and favored Mishiro heavily with all her allies, including Riko who was basically a literal terminator with her metal limbs.

Yuki realizes too late that there's 2 baths, and thus 100 total players instead of 50. The baths only connect at the entrance (where Mishiro is camping), and at the open air bath on the opposite side of the building (where Yuki is).

Mishiro sends a team led by Riko to ambush them by scaling the wall between the two sides of the open air bath. This results in one death and all of their keys being stolen. At this point their only options are to stay and die or suicide rush the girls at the entrance and hope for the best.

Yuki, Azuma, and a few others volunteer to start running to the entrance but get intercepted by Mishiro and her lackeys, who trip and drown everyone but Yuki. Mishiro and Yuki have their final showdown, which ends with Yuki stabbing Mishiro through the neck.

At the entrance, Yuki finds Riko waiting. They have a brief conversation and then a fight where Yuki just gets bodied because Riko has prosthetic metal limbs that easily break Yuki's arms. Keep in mind Yuki's right leg is also injured from previous altercation (she never gets "captured" by Riko like it's implied at end of episode 6 or beginning of episode 7)

In a last ditch effort, Yuki puts on the rubber shoes from an already unlocked locker to cross the electrified floor (the entrance mentioned earlier and it's the place you're asking about with the guns and electrified floor), and Riko pursues her on all fours wearing shoes on her hands and feet. Yuki kicks up a corpse that had been shot and electrified earlier for trying to leave without the right shoes, and it makes contact with Riko and the floor, allowing current to pass through her body and kill her, which is especially effective due to her metal limbs.

Yuki then leaves the building, but without three of her fingers, which fell off and got zapped while she was fighting Riko, so now Yuki has to get prosthetic fingers before her next game. The conversation Yuki has with her agent implies that her late start was a consequence of accidentally swallowing the transmitter from Kinko's dad, since it had to be removed first.

The anime changed/cut a good bit of this, especially the fight with Riko. They also cut a lot of exposition with Yuki's frustration at Mishiro having overcome the wall of thirty and reaching 40 games while Mishiro is furious about Yuki's terrible game. She was pissed at how vulnerable Yuki was and unwilling to kill her b/c she wanted to face off against the invincible superhuman Yuki, but it was nowhere near as merciful as in the anime where there were so many chances to just off Yuki.

@Phantom_373 This is actually one of the weakest episodes for LN readers.

An explanation for anime onlies (This episode really changes a lot of stuff from manga/LN for the worse):

The game was designed to basically be impossible and unfair for Yuki and favored Mishiro heavily with all her allies, including Riko who was basically a literal terminator with her metal limbs.

Yuki realizes too late that there's 2 baths, and thus 100 total players instead of 50. The baths only connect at the entrance (where Mishiro is camping), and at the open air bath on the opposite side of the building (where Yuki is).

Mishiro sends a team led by Riko to ambush them by scaling the wall between the two sides of the open air bath. This results in one death and all of their keys being stolen. At this point their only options are to stay and die or suicide rush the girls at the entrance and hope for the best.

Yuki, Azuma, and a few others volunteer to start running to the entrance but get intercepted by Mishiro and her lackeys, who trip and drown everyone but Yuki. Mishiro and Yuki have their final showdown, which ends with Yuki stabbing Mishiro through the neck.

At the entrance, Yuki finds Riko waiting. They have a brief conversation and then a fight where Yuki just gets bodied because Riko has prosthetic metal limbs that easily break Yuki's arms. Keep in mind Yuki's right leg is also injured from previous altercation (she never gets "captured" by Riko like it's implied at end of episode 6 or beginning of episode 7)

In a last ditch effort, Yuki puts on the rubber shoes from an already unlocked locker to cross the electrified floor (the entrance mentioned earlier and it's the place you're asking about with the guns and electrified floor), and Riko pursues her on all fours wearing shoes on her hands and feet. Yuki kicks up a corpse that had been shot and electrified earlier for trying to leave without the right shoes, and it makes contact with Riko and the floor, allowing current to pass through her body and kill her, which is especially effective due to her metal limbs.

Yuki then leaves the building, but without three of her fingers, which fell off and got zapped while she was fighting Riko, so now Yuki has to get prosthetic fingers before her next game. The conversation Yuki has with her agent implies that her late start was a consequence of accidentally swallowing the transmitter from Kinko's dad, since it had to be removed first.

The anime changed/cut a good bit of this, especially the fight with Riko. They also cut a lot of exposition with Yuki's frustration at Mishiro having overcome the wall of thirty and reaching 40 games while Mishiro is furious about Yuki's terrible game. She was pissed at how vulnerable Yuki was and unwilling to kill her b/c she wanted to face off against the invincible superhuman Yuki, but it was nowhere near as merciful as in the anime where there were so many chances to just off Yuki.

Idk seeing how it turned out with yuki showing emotions and stuff, this feels like if ayanokoji suddenly had emotions. Can’t say I enjoyed it but we move. It’s not only that but she lived cuz “anime” everything felt so forced, I’ve enjoyed the anime so far but this one was a stinker imo. All that build up for a lack luster ending to the arc.

I'm confused as to how many games have Mishiro and Yuki played.
In ep 2 Yuki said 10th and Mishiro said 8th. But now Mishiro said that she survived 40 games while Yuki is at 30th.

I assume this ep is the truth since it's monologue. Means they both lied in ep 2?

@sjydude201 Yo my guy I massively appreciate this overall explanation of the episode, I've always known the anime would cut stuff from the light novel thats just how Light novel adaptations almost always go for any anime but this episode honestly felt so much worser in that regard and I could tell lots of other people felt that way.

But thanks that does really clear up a lot of confusion for me regarding the game, especially the thing with the transmitter, I think if this was adapted better it honestly would have made this whole game come off a lot better in the anime. I still enjoyed the episode overall but more for the resolution between Mishiro and Yuuki's rivalry the game itself wasn't that interesting.

But again thanks for the explanation.

Okay... I've been really liking this show so far... but like I feel like I missed an episode or two cause wtf???

So Yuki just got bodied and Mishiro frees her just to try and kill her anyway. Classic.

Yuki acts completely OoC in this episode, like I get it cause of the whole "I want to live" but this shit came so out of nowhere.

Also, Rinko is just randomly super strong??? Like huh???

I can guarantee they freaking speedran this whole arc, they didnt even need to do that if they had made the show 12-13 eps instead of 11.

@Phantom_373 No problem. I'm a reader myself, but I took bits from other people who beat me to explaining it to others elsewhere and just added a couple things since the explanation was better, though I forgot to edit a couple sentences, but not that important.

Azuma was a badass in the LN too. She's inhumanly strong and it took so many girls to take her down. Such a shame imo.

This arc is so divisive for me because I loved and hated it. It was an intense read for me and hard for me b/c I really love Yuki & Mishiro A LOT.

I wasn't satisfied b/c I felt it wasn't fully resolved and there was room for more development between then.

Mishiro has never seen Yuki in top form. It was always when Yuki was dealing with psychological issues that caused a mental and physical strain on her where she ends up playing with her in both games. I was heartbroken about Yuki's vulnerability and frustration (she is shown to be more afraid in the anime and while she is scared in the LN, she's more frustrated at herself) that she was losing this badly just because she was in a fragile state.

Mishiro never knew any of this, but she probably wouldn't have cared since she had such an admiration for Yuki as a Candlewoods Survivor and someone she witnessed firsthand being the best to the point of being a thought of as a legendary supernatural figure. To her, it's a total insult that Yuki had seemingly regressed.

To me, it would've been better if she had simply humiliated Yuki and left her live, telling her to face her when she's gotten over her problems .Would've been nice as it would be a really hard hitting since Yuki survived plausibly, but technically lost. Also would've made for amazing motivation for her that the only reason she got over the Wall of Thirty was because of a mercy given almost better than the when she decided to save Mishiro. I really think you needed that best 2 out of 3 for the rivalry to conclude.

Anyways, that's just my rant, but yea the way they animated this arc was disappointing to me. Thought the fight scene between them was beautiful.

@RobertBobert Please do not patronize me by trying to ignore very valid points by saying "you should just go watch this other anime about this topic to understand".

You haven't said anything that actually refuted any of my points.

The anime cut a lot of content from the light novel. And most of it is not because they needed to pare it down. They did it because the things they cut do not serve the artsy aesthetic they've decided to go with.



These were all the parts that made Golden Bath so fantastic in the light novel. And they cut it all out, for no real reason other than to make the anime look deep and pretty.